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Post by Stomski on Dec 14, 2018 13:53:22 GMT
So I was watching Peaugh's review of the new G1 Starscream reissue and he mentioned that they hadn't made any major engineering differences because we've got MP and CHUGs etc. for that kind of thing, and Starscream didn't need any changes (other than for safety reasons). Some other G1 reissues have been tweaked over time, Jazz's legs got fixed, Bumblebee got a new face etc. etc.
Could such mold changes go a step further however? The thing that CHUGs and MP do is create a completely separate mould with a new transformation and I think I'd like to see original moulds, but with better articulation/features where appropriate.
Imagine if you will a G1 Optimus Prime, but with fold out fists... A G1 Starscream with leg articulation. These things could be added without modifying the transformation, but give us a vastly improved figure.
What G1 figures would you like?
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Post by The Huff on Dec 14, 2018 14:50:52 GMT
I thought about this before too, but thought that outside of the odd face or head change, it would need to be a new mold to incorporate things like articulation and things. I mean, if the original Optimus toy had flip out fists, they would be very small or he would have to have the entire arm made bigger - which would then mean changing his body so they tuck away in vehicle mode etc. It would be great to see though!
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 14, 2018 16:39:45 GMT
A very interesting idea. I think, in essence, this is what we all would like, out childhood tots made better! That's what the MP line was for me, with MP Prowl, and MP10, before they got too Sunbow and expensive. I'm not sure the G1 molds would hold-up to too much modification. But certainly things like fusts on Prime, or leg articulation in some of them.
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Post by Toph on Dec 14, 2018 18:57:46 GMT
Unless it's to repair a flaw, I would not want and G1 molds "tweaked." I would rather have a full update ala Classics Starscream, rather than have the original Starscream tweaked to give articulation and foldaway fists.
If you're gonna update the original G1 toyline, I'd kinda dig new characters being made in the same style, with the same techniques as G1. A Diaclone style Drift, Windblade, a Victorion gift set (repainting Hotspot, Blades x2, Deadend or Wildrider, Breakdown, and Groove)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 14, 2018 20:09:37 GMT
I would love to see some G1 toys tweaked. Give me a Super Ginrai with bending elbows and bicep joints please!
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 14, 2018 20:50:31 GMT
Super Ginrai is just fancy for Powermaster Optimus Prime, isn't it?
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Post by Toph on Dec 14, 2018 20:56:19 GMT
Basically. It's a different character, but it's the same mold, the same deco, but slightly tweaked with retracting fists and diecast.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 14, 2018 20:59:08 GMT
That SOUNDS AWESOME!!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 14, 2018 21:13:42 GMT
The arms are completely different, It has VERY prominent round elbows though, and an easy surface to insert a bicep swivel into.
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Post by Llama God on Dec 15, 2018 10:01:37 GMT
A very interesting idea. I think, in essence, this is what we all would like, out childhood tots made better! That's what the MP line was for me, with MP Prowl, and MP10, before they got too Sunbow and expensive. Yeah, that's the kind of thing that was more interesting to me, too. What I really want is just the old toys, but more poseable. But as has been said, that'd probably need redoing most of the molds to accomodate the new features, so you might as well just start with a completely new mold. Although it would be really interesting to see what they could do these days just by making changes to the existing molds...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 15, 2018 11:40:03 GMT
I've long held out an MP Prime based on the toy mechanics of G1 Prime would be the business. Articulate the hell out of that bad boy.
Andy
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Post by Jaymz on Dec 15, 2018 12:35:25 GMT
I'm hoping the current Diaclone line get to the Car Robots and we end up with Masterpiece figures based solely on the original toy designs.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 12:36:12 GMT
Oh I'd buy that.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 12:37:46 GMT
If you're gonna update the original G1 toyline, I'd kinda dig new characters being made in the same style, with the same techniques as G1. A Diaclone style Drift, Windblade, a Victorion gift set (repainting Hotspot, Blades x2, Deadend or Wildrider, Breakdown, and Groove) This is an interesting idea. I'd like to see that.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 12:39:28 GMT
I think it would be good for some of the real bricks, like Powermastre Prime as Phil says, but a long time back I saw some really clever customs that did this - gave G1 Prowl knees and thigh swivels etc. It looked cool, but it didn't look *right*.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 13:03:40 GMT
- gave G1 Prowl knees and thigh swivels etc. It looked cool, but it didn't look *right*. UUUUHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 14:25:34 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 14:27:35 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 15:41:32 GMT
Oh.... Gods.... That- That's amazing, beautiful.... I WANT ONE!!!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 15, 2018 16:32:05 GMT
An abomination from hell!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Dec 15, 2018 16:32:06 GMT
The thighs are a little small, but yeah, they look good.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 15, 2018 16:35:00 GMT
I just noticed the rocket launchers are mounted on the shoulders and the heads have swivels. That's subtle. So much we assume because of modern toy articulation.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 15, 2018 16:45:50 GMT
These are very good mods.
Would love something like that official.
Andy
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 17:04:11 GMT
An abomination from hell!!! -Ralph WHAT?!?!Whu whu whuuuu WHAAATTT?!?!?!!!!
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Stomski
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Post by Stomski on Dec 15, 2018 17:14:29 GMT
Now we're talking! Love that Bluestreak.
Taking it to the extreme... Imagine a G1 Prime where when you fold out the arms, the windows have a hinge down the middle and they fold back to create the tapered chest of the bot.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 15, 2018 17:52:41 GMT
An abomination from hell!!! -Ralph WHAT?!?!Whu whu whuuuu WHAAATTT?!?!?!!!!Just not right. -Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 15, 2018 19:19:32 GMT
WHAT?!?!Whu whu whuuuu WHAAATTT?!?!?!!!! Just not right. -Ralph NNNNNEEEEEAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!!!!
NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! NO! NO! NO!
No. How...? How can you---- I. RENOUNCE. THE LIGHT!!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 15, 2018 21:31:29 GMT
Seeing 80's moulds with extra articulation disturbs me. It is the Uncanny Valley of toys! Fingernails down a blackboard!
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Dec 15, 2018 22:25:20 GMT
Look on the bright side, at least they haven't been upgraded to have 5mm hand holes.
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Post by Stomski on Dec 16, 2018 8:21:02 GMT
Look on the bright side, at least they haven't been upgraded to have 5mm hand holes. And their shoulder cannons could be c-clips! Yes, yessssss!!!
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