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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 1, 2020 0:19:46 GMT
Oh no this is too confusing. Regardless, happy new year, everyone! Happy New Year, Urz', my dear Cyber Pal. And a Happy New Year to all my wonderful Cyber Chums. (was watching Temple of Doom on iPlayer... only just realised the ball had dropped...!)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 0:20:02 GMT
Phil has chosen a thread title that might cause Martin to explode. If we except the ISO standard on what makes week 1 week 1, we must also accept the one on when a decade starts. Which reminds me....
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 0:21:59 GMT
Happy New Year all!
This year I will...
- do something proactive about changing jobs - produce at least a pilot podcast - move my Wonder Day programme forward - do some writing - have a baby (and try to do some of the above before the baby derails all my best laid plans)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 0:22:39 GMT
Doesn't Mrs M do the last bit?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 0:23:33 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 0:24:56 GMT
Philip! Honestly! It's 2020 now not 1820!
'Have' as in Mrs M and I will collectively have a baby this year.
*Adds Phil to the list beside Shockprowl to keep said baby away from*
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 0:29:29 GMT
Trust me on this one: Don't take credit for having the baby. Shockprowl, as a fellow father, will back me on this one!
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 1, 2020 0:52:04 GMT
Big Phil is right. Credit goes to the the one who has been the house .
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 0:58:25 GMT
I am taking no credit away from Joy and her hard work carrying the baby by saying we are having one.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2020 6:38:56 GMT
Happy ninth birthday, 202nd decade! Fear not. I shall be doing no exploding, I merely look sadly upon misguided fools who can't count in tens starting from 1 and don't accept the authority of our great dictionaries. If we except the ISO standard on what makes week 1 week 1 We don't accept ISO standards any more here. They have been totally discredited by the one that says decades and centuries start with years ending in 0 and end with years ending in 9, which doesn't work for the first decade and first century because there was no year 0, and contradicts all the major dictionaries, which say centuries start with a 1-year and end with a 0-year. I can only explain it by concluding that everyone who wrote that standard genuinely assumed there was a year 0 in history and forgot to check. Either that or they don't care whether the definitions make sense for history prior to the invention of the computer and care more about IT programmers who go wibbly when the big digits on their digital watches change. I'm all for international co-operation, but long-established English dictionaries trump ISO standards in terms of defining what English words mean, and an abacus trumps popular opinion when it comes to an authority on counting. Better luck this time next year when the 202nd decade is over, Phil! Until then, like it or not, you're still in the same decade AD that you were yesterday. Why didn't the Longtooth title survive to Friday to herald the coming of the Longtooth catalogue poll? Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2020 6:40:37 GMT
Phil has chosen a thread title that might cause Martin to explode. However, as we all know, he is retiring from week thread starting this week, so we enter an uncertain future. I punish Phil for his crimes against counting years in complete blocks of ten by declaring Week 2, which apparently begins in just 5 days time, to be HUB RHYMING WEEK 2020! Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 1, 2020 9:49:16 GMT
THE FUTURE!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2020 11:14:48 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2020 11:16:20 GMT
Phil has chosen a thread title that might cause Martin to explode. However, as we all know, he is retiring from week thread starting this week, so we enter an uncertain future. I punish Phil for his crimes against counting years in complete blocks of ten by declaring Week 2, which apparently begins in just 5 days time, to be HUB RHYMING WEEK 2020! Martin Happy New Year, Phil! -Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 11:37:51 GMT
Suits me, get it out the way for the year.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 11:41:27 GMT
Why didn't the Longtooth title survive to Friday to herald the coming of the Longtooth catalogue poll? It has heralded the arrival of Longtooth, but has disappeared before Friday as I don't want to be accused of prejudicing the poll. Everyone is free to vote how they want......
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Post by blueshift on Jan 1, 2020 12:00:39 GMT
Having carefully considered the options, I feel that this IS the start of a new decade because:
A decade is every ten years so every SECOND it is the start of a new decade
Not all years are 365/6 days due to all the calendar adjustments so we got some years that were far longer/shorter, thus a decade doesn't have to be 10 years just as a year doesn't have to be 365/6 days.
Phew!!!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2020 12:07:03 GMT
A decade is every ten years so every SECOND it is the start of a new decade Correct, it is a new decade in that sense. Provided time doesn't come to an end before ten years have passed. Incorrect. All dictionaries and ISO standards define a decade as a period of ten years, even if they don't agree when a historical decade starts. Decade means ten years. Not nine years. Dec means ten. Except in the case of December which was originally the tenth month until they inserted two more. Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 1, 2020 12:13:41 GMT
Gormanuary
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2020 12:38:51 GMT
BBC said last night that this is a new decade.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 1, 2020 12:41:03 GMT
Yeah it definitely feels like a new decade. It's the Swinging '20s!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 1, 2020 14:35:14 GMT
BBC said last night that this is a new decade. We apparently live in a post-truth age where The People think they get to decide on whether 2019 is divisible by 10. Martin
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 15:32:28 GMT
The BBC regularly interviews Michael Gove as if his opinions carry weight. Gove has had enough of experts. Therefore the BBC is not known for expert opinion any more.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 15:34:15 GMT
Having carefully considered the options, I feel that this IS the start of a new decade because: A decade is every ten years so every SECOND it is the start of a new decade Not all years are 365/6 days due to all the calendar adjustments so we got some years that were far longer/shorter, thus a decade doesn't have to be 10 years just as a year doesn't have to be 365/6 days. Phew!!! A decade is ten years but different decades can contain different numbers of days.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 1, 2020 16:31:07 GMT
Oh no.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 1, 2020 17:12:31 GMT
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Post by legios on Jan 2, 2020 21:39:39 GMT
BBC said last night that this is a new decade. We apparently live in a post-truth age where The People think they get to decide on whether 2019 is divisible by 10. Martin 19 is divisible by ten. It is just not evenly divisible by ten. 19 can be divided by ten, yielding 1.9... :-) Karl
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Post by legios on Jan 2, 2020 21:43:16 GMT
All these shenanigans about when a decade starts and ends makes me suspicious. I think someone is running a salami-slice scam on time - shaving a year of each decade, and collecting them somewhere to build their own century to hide out in. They have an impressive level of ambition if that is the case - after all, Faction Paradox were only able to acquire 11 days when they bought them off the King of England (and even then they have to burn them at the edges to keep their little Empire running)...
Karl
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 2, 2020 23:10:00 GMT
Shockprowl, the Kaptain is on to you!!
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 3, 2020 7:13:23 GMT
...of you all...
...I always knew...
...it would be KAPTAIN KARLOS who would stop me...
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