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Post by blueshift on Sept 17, 2023 12:18:56 GMT
Oooof that bee
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Post by Jim on Sept 17, 2023 12:50:14 GMT
Eeeeeh. Not sure I get the line of thinking that leads to destylising everything apart from the face. Looks very odd in robot mode.
Zero interest in Windblade, very hard to imagine it will be in any way better than the RID or Legends (from the TR mould) toys.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 17, 2023 13:06:54 GMT
I can see a variety of ports on Windblade for tooling her up. But apart from that it's going to be hard to beat TR/Legends or RiD2015
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2023 15:35:04 GMT
Never did pick up a TR Windblade.
Re: Bee. Poo robot but the vehicle mode is on point for Animated. Even if it was amazing I would pass on it due to my intense dislike of Animated Bumblebee: a show killer. Moaning arsehole who never learned anything. I gave up on the show as he was so shit he made it unwatchable!!!
Cannot fucking stand Animated Bumblebee. He needs to fucking DIE.
Ahem. *cough* As you were.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 17, 2023 16:49:05 GMT
Never did pick up a TR Windblade. You and most of the rest of the world. In the Unobtainium wave with Twin Twist & Misfire. Was much easier to get the Legends version.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 17, 2023 17:33:34 GMT
I never saw a Misfire.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Sept 17, 2023 17:41:09 GMT
Having seen both the TR and RiD Windblade... I can imagine the Legacy one might be an improvement on the disapppointing TR one, but I have a hard time envisaging how it could be better than the RiD one. Might be tempted to pick her up anyway. I like most things about Windblade's aesthetic bar her Kabuki make-up, and there's only really been one good toy of her. If nothing else, I can give a new one a different set of weapons, and have them doing an "Annual crossover movie" thing with "both Reds back-to-back" kind of pose.
The Animated Bumblebee is very odd. They got close to the aesthetic in the vehicle mode, the humanoid head is...they were trying, but somehow they missed by a wide margin. The rest of the humanoid mode is absolutely terrible. Doesn't fit the animated aesthetic at all. Whereas the Prowl was a miss but in the right general direction, and the Bulkhead looked like "we meant to do Movie Hound and then changed the head", the Bumblebee looks entirely wrong.
Not a lot of point in doing an Animated Bumblebee if they entirely miss the characters distinctive aesthetics really.
Kar
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 17, 2023 17:51:44 GMT
I never saw a Misfire. -Ralph Didn't come out here, hard to find worldwide. So hard to get it won't surprise me if there's a warehouse find of those cases down the line because the stock has to be *SOMEWHERE*
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Post by Benn on Sept 17, 2023 17:58:27 GMT
Funnily enough, I've got the Legends Windblade but the TR Twin Twist and Misfire. So they happened somewhere around here. Think Twin Twist might have been a gift though.
Windblade has very clompy legs though, that don't quite fit the smallness of the rest of her body, so I can see an improvement being made there. And as long as that makes her more stable than the original, that should be an improvement.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 17, 2023 19:22:44 GMT
I seem to have Legends Misfire (which would have been for the targetmaster) and TR Twin Twist and Windblade. Which is odd because I was sure I skipped Windblade already having the T30 one.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 17, 2023 20:27:14 GMT
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Post by Benn on Sept 17, 2023 21:00:27 GMT
I seem to have Legends Misfire (which would have been for the targetmaster) and TR Twin Twist and Windblade. Which is odd because I was sure I skipped Windblade already having the T30 one. Annoyingly, Misfire is the only Decepticon Targetmaster I don't have the Legends of. Saw one at TFN, but it was south of £100 so had to leave it be.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 17, 2023 21:11:12 GMT
Blimey. Still, having that many of the Legends versions is pretty cool. I only have a few of them. Slugslinger, yes, Trigger-happy, no. Doh.
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Post by Toph on Sept 18, 2023 8:35:06 GMT
Oh hey, I got the new windblade too! Here's totally my proof!
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Post by Llama God on Sept 18, 2023 8:55:30 GMT
Next some old fashioned "I've got the toy and am going to be a right t!t about it!" FUCKING TITS! Anyway, this figure’s got a long way to go to have to be better than what, to my mind, is the best version of Windblade so far, which is of course the Titans Return version. I know it’s hard to tell from these few titting glimpses, but it looks like it’s not going to completely make the journey. Sure, it’ll be decently molded and it’ll have decent articulation, but, like most Generations figures, it won’t set the world on fire. It’ll be fine. The main problem with this Windblade is that it’s going to be yet another based on the original design, because she’s only ever had one design. Sure, this version is meant to be a Generationsified version of the Cyberverse character, but that was a stylised version of the original character anyway, so we’ve just gone back to square one. I’d have liked to have seen some more variants of her design, as we’ve seen with other main characters, but I think she’s now forever more trapped in the original design/Evergreen mold cycle, which is a shame. I will, of course, have to pick her up anyway - I’ve been banging on about getting a new Windblade character for long enough now that I probably should. And I’d like to show that there’s still some interest in the character…
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Post by Llama God on Sept 18, 2023 8:59:04 GMT
Never did pick up a TR Windblade. Re: Bee. Poo robot but the vehicle mode is on point for Animated. Even if it was amazing I would pass on it due to my intense dislike of Animated Bumblebee: a show killer. Moaning arsehole who never learned anything. I gave up on the show as he was so shit he made it unwatchable!!! Feel much the same as you - although he didn’t stop me from watching Animated. I don’t mind the young, kid characters that need to learn and grow lessons in the show… but he was just an arsehole, and indeed never seemed to learn. Given this happened at the same time as the Bayverse ‘Bee was introduced as being a smug jock-like character, I did have to wonder who at Hasbro had their dog run over by a VW Beetle…
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Post by Toph on Sept 18, 2023 9:27:55 GMT
Yeah, I'm kinda ready for a new Windblade design as well.
I'm ready for a new design for a ton of characters, but the difference is, they can switch out for Starscream between a dozen different designs that haven't seen the light of day in 15 years, and with such distinct personalities that they're actually uniquely different characters. Windblade however has only had the one design and one personality, even though she's appeared in a few distinct continuities by now. G1, Cyberverse, and Aligned Windblades are all completely interchangeable, down to her personality. Meanwhile, even if Cyberverse and Earthspark Bumblebee have an almost identical "evergreen" design, they're personalities are still distinct.
I feel bad for her, honestly. It feels like she's treated by everyone at every level as an obligation, and not as a character that they really want to play with or think about. It's sad, as Windblade and Till All Are One are genuinely the only comics from the latter half of IDW what I enjoyed. I have a pretty big fondness for her.
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Post by Toph on Sept 18, 2023 9:31:05 GMT
That said, her wings will be removable to mimic her retractable wings from the show. That's how this toy will be unique from the other three versions.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 18, 2023 13:54:51 GMT
I've always found the Windblade character to be terribly dull so I'm not champing at the bit for a toy, I must admit.
-Ralph
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Post by that_bluestreak on Sept 18, 2023 16:15:00 GMT
i liked her from the idw comics, it was nice to get a new perspective on the autobot-decepticon war, the political machinations plotline was very satisfactory. getting a windblade toy is on my wantlist but will it be this one?
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Post by Llama God on Sept 19, 2023 9:03:08 GMT
I feel bad for her, honestly. It feels like she's treated by everyone at every level as an obligation, and not as a character that they really want to play with or think about. It's sad, as Windblade and Till All Are One are genuinely the only comics from the latter half of IDW what I enjoyed. I have a pretty big fondness for her. All of that. And whilst I liked pretty much all of the IDW stuff, TAAO was definitely a highlight. I was very glad to be able to meet Mairghread Scott at one of the past TFNations and talk to her about it, because it was great stuff. And also I got to blame her in person for finally making me buy an Onslaught toy, which she was perfectly happy with.
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Post by Llama God on Sept 19, 2023 9:07:58 GMT
i liked her from the idw comics, it was nice to get a new perspective on the autobot-decepticon war, the political machinations plotline was very satisfactory. getting a windblade toy is on my wantlist but will it be this one? Probably not. Which means... not ever, really. I think we're actually pretty much in the endgame now for Generations toys, in terms of the level of quality and engineering that they'll ever achieve, and the stylings that they'll use. Anything else will be incremental, barely percepitible improvements. I was just thinking about the Black Series and how long that's been going on for, and how Generations kind of feels like the equivalent of that, in terms of how far Hasbro are willing to push and change things with their "collectore-focussed" line. So I think, in ten years' time, the figures'll be much the same as they are now. Just more expensive. I've certainly cheered myself up with that thought this morning.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 19, 2023 9:49:25 GMT
Thanks!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2023 10:28:58 GMT
Thundertron is due to be revealed this week, presumably the Prime Universe Lion. Options: * Repaint of Leo Prime, no remoulding save maybe the robot head.
* Remould of Leo Prime to put the Lion head on the Robot chest
* Remould of Voyager Tigatron to give him a lion head
* New Mould, potentially with an eye on Cybertron Leobreaker What do we think?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 19, 2023 11:28:45 GMT
Hardhead repaint.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 19, 2023 11:49:01 GMT
Tankorr. No repaint.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2023 14:38:43 GMT
Fat or Thin?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 19, 2023 14:41:42 GMT
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Post by Toph on Sept 19, 2023 17:29:57 GMT
These and Prowl make me really wish Bulkhead was TFA based, instead of being AoE Hound with TFP Bulkhead's head
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Post by Toph on Sept 19, 2023 17:34:49 GMT
Optimus is gonna have some interesting stuff going on with his arms.
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