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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2019 19:33:20 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2019 19:39:42 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2019 19:46:40 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 15, 2019 19:52:25 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 22, 2019 7:02:13 GMT
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Post by Toph on Sept 22, 2019 7:10:54 GMT
Holy cow
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 22, 2019 17:15:23 GMT
Oh God he was only 50.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 22, 2019 17:30:16 GMT
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 23, 2019 12:18:16 GMT
Mrs M has now watched Encounter at Farpoint.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 23, 2019 16:58:24 GMT
Oh dear.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 23, 2019 18:12:39 GMT
Provisionally.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 23, 2019 18:18:51 GMT
Don't put CODE OF HONOR on!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Sept 23, 2019 18:55:50 GMT
Code of Honor is so misleading. You read that name and think "here must be an excellent Klingon episode!" But nope. It's just performative feminism vs Planet Racist Wakanda.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 23, 2019 19:51:16 GMT
Don't put CODE OF HONOR on!!! -Ralph We have skipped ahead to Hide and Q tonight. She seems to be liking the Q episodes. I have a hunch about the Picard series so getting her ready.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 24, 2019 16:24:16 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 18:23:01 GMT
Oh wow... Best of Both Worlds BLEW ME AWAY back in the day. The pinnacle of TNG.... the pinnacle of Star Trek...?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2019 19:50:43 GMT
The pinnacle is Star Trek V!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 20:13:53 GMT
Naaaaaaaaahhhhhh
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 25, 2019 20:45:51 GMT
Each of us hides a secret pain...
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 25, 2019 21:07:58 GMT
Uh-huh
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Post by Toph on Sept 25, 2019 23:45:08 GMT
I think the only cliffhanger that ever topped BoBW for me, was Beast Wars Season 2 finale.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 14:57:45 GMT
The cliffhanger at the end of Descent (Part 1) was pantswettingly exciting at the time.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 26, 2019 17:14:31 GMT
*evil grin*
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 26, 2019 20:53:06 GMT
The sons of Soong have joined together...and together we shall destroy the Federation!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 5, 2019 19:12:15 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 5, 2019 19:44:11 GMT
Ah ffs! I was in that national aerospace museum on holiday and missed the Enterprise. How did I do that?
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 28, 2019 19:17:14 GMT
After a long gap I have resumed my Trek marathon which stalled part-way through TNG (have already rewatched all of TOS, TAS and Enterprise). I must be getting old but I genuinely got teary-eyed watching 'The Offspring' despite having seen it umpteen times before! I very rarely get teary eyes watching *anything*.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Oct 28, 2019 19:25:09 GMT
That's the one with Lal, right? Yeah, that one is a toughy. Makes you realize what a hell of an actor Brent Spiner is, to be able to express that emotional weight without "showing" it, in a character that supposedly is emotionless.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 28, 2019 19:25:44 GMT
I picked up some reduced price Blu-rays while in London last week - TNG 'The Best of Both Worlds' and the four TNG movies - and am re-watching them all. TBoBW is still superb television, and First Contact the perfect big screen follow-up. The other three films remain weak by comparison but are all watchable and have their moments. Patrick Stewart's presence redeems otherwise mediocrity.
Martin
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Post by Toph on Oct 28, 2019 20:18:10 GMT
Generations, through no fault of it's own just feels like an intense two part episode with higher than normal production budget.
I think Generations' problems sort of illustrate why the TNG movies didn't work (poor writing aside). The same Enterprise, the same sets, just a few months after the end of the series, while DS9 was on air, and Voyager a few months down the road. They struggled to make it look different (which is why I think the lighting was so weird).
I also think this is one reason First Contact was successful, too. All new everything. New sets, new ship, new costumes, new style and aesthetic. FC also had a story that was genuinely cinematic in scope. They could never have really pulled that off in TV. Voyager is cut off, so it can keep it's own thing, but you had DS9 at the same time. It had to mirror the Starfleet changes shown in the movies. It wouldn't make sense if they didn't. The TOS movies were remarkably different than TNG, in almost every way.
I'm not saying these are the reasons the TNG movies failed, compared to the TOS and even reboots, but it certainly made tge hill they had to climb a lot steeper.
On a weird side note, there really is nothing objectively bad about Insurrection. It's not a bad story (a bit dull). But it really feels more like a season end/beginning cliffhanger more than something akin to FC or Undiscovered Country. It also hasn't visually aged very well, imo. Nemesis however, despite being objectively terrible in every way, has aged a bit better. I also find it to be more fun to watch, compared to Insurrection. I guess it's the popcorn-flick factor?
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