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Post by Toph on May 30, 2019 11:41:22 GMT
Yeah, there was a Convoy for every planet (I still feel Hadbro wussed out not calling them Prime), but that's not the same thing as giving Optimus a unique design/toy, though. Gemme a voyager Optimus that's an F1 style alien racer with translucent wheels, who can shoot his front spoiler when you plug in the cyberkey! Interesting idea... The Beast Planet BWX redecos and Armada deco tweak are effectively padding to extend the line though. The Armada was definitely padding, but I disagree about the BW10 molds. They were always designed to be released in Cybertron from the start. Their aesthetic matches the beast planet, and designed with Cybertron's gimmick. A Cybertron release was always gonna happen. I think it was the Beast Wars Anniversary release that was in question. On a side note, I honestly would not at all mind a return to the UT with a fourth series.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 30, 2019 12:07:38 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 30, 2019 13:10:13 GMT
Also don't forget that while there's not an Optimus Prime for every planet, there was a Convoy for every planet: Yeah, there was a Convoy for every planet (I still feel Hadbro wussed out not calling them Prime), but that's not the same thing as giving Optimus a unique design/toy, though. Gemme a voyager Optimus that's an F1 style alien racer with translucent wheels, who can shoot his front spoiler when you plug in the cyberkey! Somehow I keep thinking of the G2 Gobot Prime as a Race Planet Prine....... (Did you see the Sideswipe/Thunderclash custom?) Would you want the other planets Primes to be red? I mean obviously they need a blue Prime head but what about the rest of them? And in which case does the Ape need repainting?
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Post by Toph on May 30, 2019 13:35:39 GMT
The Armada was definitely padding, but I disagree about the BW10 molds. They were always designed to be released in Cybertron from the start. Their aesthetic matches the beast planet, and designed with Cybertron's gimmick. A Cybertron release was always gonna happen. I think it was the Beast Wars Anniversary release that was in question. TFWiki: tfwiki.net/wiki/Optimus_Primal/toys#Beast_Wars_10th_AnniversarySo yeah, I was exactly right. Vindication!
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Post by Toph on May 30, 2019 13:46:01 GMT
Yeah, there was a Convoy for every planet (I still feel Hadbro wussed out not calling them Prime), but that's not the same thing as giving Optimus a unique design/toy, though. Gemme a voyager Optimus that's an F1 style alien racer with translucent wheels, who can shoot his front spoiler when you plug in the cyberkey! Somehow I keep thinking of the G2 Gobot Prime as a Race Planet Prine....... (Did you see the Sideswipe/Thunderclash custom?) Would you want the other planets Primes to be red? I mean obviously they need a blue Prime head but what about the rest of them? And in which case does the Ape need repainting? They're new planet-appropriate scans/bodies for Optimus Prime. They'd be red. And the beast planet gorilla Optimus is already red. At least he's about as red as mammals can get. He could be a bit more rust colored, but we don't really do red, blue, and green like birds and reptiles.
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Post by Llama God on May 31, 2019 6:34:44 GMT
Then there's the continued bitterness over not buying the Blue Ramble..... Not just that - the conjunx is still after a Coby Rumble to complete here collection. And since that only ever came in a set with Galaxy Convoy and Sonic Bomber, that... that is never happening.
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Post by Benn on May 31, 2019 13:58:08 GMT
Blue Ramble? Coby Rumble? WHAT?
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Post by Toph on May 31, 2019 14:20:14 GMT
Ramble/Rumble is the japanese name for Scrapmetal.
Scrapmetal was treated as a mindless insecticon-like drone in the cartoon, and came in many colors. Even though Hasbro and/or Takara said they were gonna release a blue version, ultimately they did not. "Cody" Ramble is a specialized version one of the kids repaired and owned. The toy for that version has a unique head that was only available in a japanese Galaxy Convoy giftset, and in the 2006 Botcon custom class.
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 31, 2019 14:45:36 GMT
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Post by Benn on May 31, 2019 17:04:36 GMT
Oh the Coby one is nice.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 1, 2019 8:03:21 GMT
And it will only set you back a mere £200+.
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Post by Benn on Jun 1, 2019 13:31:13 GMT
Bargain.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 2, 2019 7:19:34 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 2, 2019 8:32:21 GMT
THE POWER OF AN ENTIRE PLANET! THE POWER OF PRIMUS IS UNLEASHED!
*fires two piddly missiles*
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 2, 2019 22:03:24 GMT
...inches over his baby's head.
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Post by Llama God on Dec 3, 2019 7:24:29 GMT
I too have the power of a planet! I too have the power to just sit there, rotating slowly!
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 3, 2019 7:58:20 GMT
*puts foot down slowly on to another robot*
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 25, 2021 15:15:00 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 7, 2022 19:33:05 GMT
The subject of Cybertron Jetfire's UK availability came up on the call on Saturday. This slipped my mind at the time Normal Scourge was in a blink and you missed it case with Jetfire that only Argos had briefly at the start of the UK release and was swiftly replaced by solid cased Dark Scorponoks. tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_Cybertron_(toyline)#General_retailFrom memory there was reasonable availability on the rest of the Ultra Waves The Voyagers lost the Dark Crumplezone & Scattorshot wave :-( Deluxes were a lot less lucky First on the shelves was Wave 3 Sideways & Snarl in Tescos. Wave 1 showed up in TRU and elsewhere. Wave 2 Red Alert & Override was skipped. Wave 4, the Armada remoulds, came out here which I didn't expect and then Wave 4 Brimstone, Crosswise & Thunderblast got skipped. Wave 5, Cybertron Defense Hot Shot & Downshift, and Wave 6 Excellion & Override GTS, both came out here. After that I'm a little wooly. I'm pretty sure Unicron came out - was he paired with Skywarp and or Cannonballl? - but I'm certain Armada Demolishor & Op, Beast Op & Megatron and Smokescreen DIDN'T.
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 7, 2022 20:22:13 GMT
The local Woolies had Unicron though only saw it once.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 7, 2022 21:23:20 GMT
Judging by quantities on eBay UK, Unicron was sold with Skywarp and Cannonball wasn't available here
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Post by The Huff on Feb 7, 2022 22:43:24 GMT
Yes, from memory at Toys R Us; it was Unicron with Skywarp.
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Post by Llama God on Feb 8, 2022 8:28:05 GMT
My Unicron came from Asda - but couldn't tell you what it was paired with there.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2022 8:36:46 GMT
My suspicion was it was Skywarp *ANYWAY* and everything we've heard confirms that. I just couldn't swear to it.
The US Waves for deluxe were "new ones mixed in with toys carried over from previous waves" but here it was cases of just the new figures
I know there were no Minicon vs packs here - a big shame - but I don't recall which of the basics got skipped
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Post by Benn on Feb 8, 2022 8:37:38 GMT
Fairly certain my Unicron came from Poundstretcher, and was a 'The Unicron Battles' release.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2022 9:57:25 GMT
Unicron Battles was an Armada subbranding that the Supreme Unicron was released under*. We're talking about the deluxe tank tfwiki.net/wiki/Unicron/toys#Cybertron* Interestingly as well as being released in Armada, the Supreme Unicron in it's original colours also shows up in Energon boxes. That fact will come in VERY useful to me down the line.
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Post by Benn on Feb 8, 2022 20:50:16 GMT
Ah, my misunderstanding
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Post by Llama God on Feb 10, 2022 7:03:14 GMT
* Interestingly as well as being released in Armada, the Supreme Unicron in it's original colours also shows up in Energon boxes. That fact will come in VERY useful to me down the line. ILLEGAL USEFULNESS! Probably.
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Post by The Huff on Feb 10, 2022 16:08:33 GMT
I guess Deluxe Unicron being packed with Skywarp was a callback to Armada....
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 10, 2022 19:10:12 GMT
Mudflap, or rather the Movie's repaint, arrived today Oh yeah, that's the good stuff. Why did I never buy this first time round? I had Cybertron Mudflap but was never that taken with the colours, this is a HUGE improvement doing him in yellow. I've gone on about Armada Hoist as Scavenger for years, but I think they missed a trick not making a Unicron Trilogy Constructicon boxset: Hoist as Scavenger
Scavenger as Bonecrusher
Energon Demolishor as Longhaul
Cybertron Landmine as Scrapper
Mudflap as Hook
Quickmix as Mixmaster Recolour them all green and purple. Boom.
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