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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 29, 2009 19:39:47 GMT
According to the Interweb (which never lies), Ravage's pal was called "Reedman" on the end credits. However, the end credits also apparently referred to Demolishor as "Wheelbot" and Rampage as "Skipjack" (when Megatron clearly addressed him as "Rampage"), so who knows...
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Jun 29, 2009 20:06:03 GMT
AND ANOTHER THING....
If you've been going out with someone for TWO YEARS and they haven't used the 'L' word yet, you need to dump his commitment-phobic ass, girlfriend!
*Clicks fingers*
Mx
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Post by Nigel on Jun 30, 2009 7:39:58 GMT
I thought that was daft. Hardly believable after two years.
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Post by grahamthomson on Jun 30, 2009 8:17:44 GMT
I think you two are expecting far too much from the men in your lives.
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Post by Nigel on Jun 30, 2009 10:10:06 GMT
If only I had a woman in my life. But, hey, it's cheaper without.
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Post by Cullen on Jun 30, 2009 12:51:27 GMT
I thought that was daft. Hardly believable after two years. Yeah the film was 100% believable apart from that.
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Post by Nigel on Jun 30, 2009 14:54:14 GMT
When you put it like that, it's perhaps not the best thing to pick up on, is it?
Putting aside the alien invasion, giant robots, anti-sun weaponry, secret organisations and all that stuff, though and just focusing on the human aspect... (Sheesh, that is way too much analysis for a film like this!)
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 30, 2009 18:26:58 GMT
It's also not the number one reason to advise someone to dump someone who has made himself an enemy of an evil alien race of giant homicidal robots.
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Post by Nigel on Jul 1, 2009 10:04:22 GMT
Ooh! I've just been reminded about something I'd forgotten and nobody has mentioned - Deep Roy! That unexpected cast member was one of the film's highlights for me. (Even if the scene was stupid. "New York!" Why would that allow passage at a checkpoint?) I can see the book now: Optimus Prime and the Oompa Loompas.
Also, I was surprised yesterday to learn that one of the Primes was voiced by Michael York. Another was voiced by Robin Atkin Downes (Byron in Babylon 5. Come to think of it, Michael York was in a Babylon 5 episode, too. The Primes must have been among The First Ones! I call dibs on the fanfic!). Speaking of voice actors, whenever The Fallen spoke, I was left trying to place the voice - I was pleasantly surprised in the credits to find that it was Tony Todd. I also just found out that another genre regular appeared as "NSA Agent" - Eric Pierpoint. (Alien Nation, various Star Trek, an episode of Babylon 5. Hang on, Tony Todd appeared in Babylon 5 once. It's a conspiracy!)
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Post by Nigel on Jul 1, 2009 11:36:07 GMT
If you assume that "Bonecrusher", "Brawl" and "Blackout" are the same characters from the first film and not new lookalikes, what does it say about Ratchet's skills if Doctor was able to repair them and Ratchet wasn't able to repair Jazz? Or Bumblebee's vocal processor, for that matter. Is Ratchet even a medic? Is he just stringing the other Autobots along, hoping he doesn't get found out?
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Post by primenova on Jul 1, 2009 13:57:00 GMT
Not really anything to do with the film - but Soundwave scenes where good in it & showing that he carries round others inside him like in G1. But who came up with the word satellite? when we say it as "sat-a-lite" not "sa-tel-lite" when you hear them on the news complainting about black sky disc all over the place.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jul 1, 2009 14:16:52 GMT
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Post by Nigel on Jul 1, 2009 14:32:12 GMT
The stupid sod wasn't paying attention.
1. I'm pretty sure the cover story was stated in the film - experimental robots gone wrong. (I may be confusing that memory with the tie-in comics, though.)
2. It's used for Jetfire - it can't bring back Optimus as well.
7. It's not the Smithsonian on the National Mall, it's the second air and space museum campus several miles outside the city. The sign is clearly seen. As to the barrenness of the field, Washington is surprisingly warm and whilst I haven't been to that museum, I could well imagine the fields being like that in late summer.
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Post by primenova on Jul 1, 2009 15:36:26 GMT
The Pretender was using mass transportation summit stuff to seem lighter. Bit like those gravity hooks did at end of Dr Who series 2. but making mass disappear unlike being wall hooks.
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Post by Nigel on Jul 1, 2009 16:30:32 GMT
Nah, she was just made of a light metal, like aluminium or some alien alloy. Frenzy didn't crush Sam either, when he was on him in the first film and he must have been light for Sam to kick his head so far.
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Post by karla on Jul 1, 2009 17:09:03 GMT
was dissapointed simmons wasn't wearing a mankini to save the world
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Post by Nigel on Jul 1, 2009 17:11:23 GMT
Well, you're the only person that was.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 1, 2009 17:13:56 GMT
I have many of the same questions! Such a stupid film, even for popcorn fodder. -Ralph
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Post by Benn on Jul 1, 2009 23:31:51 GMT
But he didn't ask the most important question: In God's name, WHY?
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Post by Jaymz on Jul 2, 2009 1:06:52 GMT
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Post by Benn on Jul 2, 2009 9:34:28 GMT
Everyone should read that. Then weep. Copiously. That's it. I'm leaving now, before the anger grows too much again.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jul 2, 2009 10:09:20 GMT
But he didn't ask the most important question: In God's name, WHY? Because it's THE FALLEN'S REVENGE!! Ho ho ho! ;D
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 8, 2009 18:09:27 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 8, 2009 18:48:28 GMT
Not interesting enough for me to get past the second paragraph, I'm afraid.
Looking forward to seeing it in IMAX on Monday!
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jul 9, 2009 9:54:22 GMT
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jul 13, 2009 16:48:49 GMT
I'm amused to hear Roger Ebert is getting a lot of hate online for his review - all of which ignores he gave a favourable review to the first film.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 13, 2009 20:06:08 GMT
It's amazing how many people miss the concept of what a review is. A review is not supposed to agree with your own personal view. It is someone offering up an informed view of something and explaining why. The end. And yet the web explodes.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 13, 2009 23:16:16 GMT
Okey dokey. I've seen it. And overall, although I thought it was a very enjoyable action romp, as a Transformers fan, I was disapointed.
Good points: -Devastator. -Fight scenes in general were excellent. -Soundwave. -Jetfire.
Bad points: -Too much of the 'human', not enough by half of the 'robot'. IT'S A FREAKIN' ROBOT FILM DAMNIT! DAMMMNNNNIIIIITTT!!!!!! -Megatron's second fiddle hu? Took all the menace out of him for me. Weakened the character immeasurably. Very disapointed. -Robot characterisation, or lack thereof. THERE JUST WASN'T ANY! OH DEAR GOD! Apart from the excellent Jetfire, great character. -The humour: Juvenile, inapropriate- at several moments, when tension was building, a stupid, weak bit of childish humour would interupt, totally spoiling the build-up. Example: Devastator's bollocks. I actually did laugh, it was funny, but inapropriate for the 'End of movie tense all or nothing the Earth's gunna be destroyed fight'! -I hated Skids and Mudflap. Sorry to all 'Twins' fans, but they were SH1T and took so much characterisation away from Bumblebee by there mere presence. Awefull, weak humour vessles. I wont say they ruined the movie for me but..... Jar Jar all over again. Yes, I hated Jar Jar too. Devastator was wasted on the little f**kers. -Bumblebee- after likeing him in the first movie, what- he STILL can't talk, even though he talked at the end of the first film? It ruined the character/characterisation. BB could have been the life/focus of the story, along with Sam, only to be sidelined to a gimmicky presence. -Sam's parents were awefull. -Megatron's weird freaky deformed left arm. WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT?!?! URRRSHGH! -New Robot characters? Who? Didn't get to meet many of them. -They seemed to rescue Megatron very easily. Why'd it take them so long? Then, soon as, ol' Megs blasts way from Earth, into space, back to- where? Cybertron? Saturn? Just like that? I didnt' get that bit at all. -And don't get me started on where the f**k Jazz was when all the other first movie 'cons were running around all happy clappy.
I think the treatment of Bumblebee is the key to much of what's wrong with the film. The story was 'Human' driven, not 'Robot' driven. It wasn't even a blend of 'Human' and 'Robot' )the first film was far better at that). I wasn't allowed to empathise with the Autobots, because the story was told entirely from the Human point of view. I felt little conection to the story because of that. I come to see a Transformers movie to see Transformers, not the life and times of the human character who became their friend first time 'round. Sure we need a human character in there to give us the human perspective (Well, I don't but I can see how the wider audience might), but THERE WAS NOTHING OF THE TRANSFORMERS!!!!! 'Least that's what I felt comming away from the film. Maybe I'll feel better second viewing.
I did love Devastator though. Loved the way, I call him Scrapper, did an almost scream just before they combined. Nice. Want the toy.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jul 14, 2009 10:18:39 GMT
It's amazing how many people miss the concept of what a review is. A review is not supposed to agree with your own personal view. It is someone offering up an informed view of something and explaining why. The end. And yet the web explodes. -Ralph Why, you make it sound like film critics are not people who live in ivory towers and are out of touch, hate fun, and want everything to be art films, and more like they're people who... like and watch films.
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Post by Benn on Jul 14, 2009 10:43:07 GMT
"The movie is pretty much all climax. The Autobots® and Decepticons® must not have read the warning label on their Viagra. At last we see what a four-hour erection looks like."
That has got to be the best/funniest review of the film for me.
And in a close second:
This is not a story: A group of inconsequential human characters watch animation.
Regardless of whether or not you like the film or not, any film that can inspire those lines in a review.... well, at least it provokes a reation. I left Star Trek and Terminator with a real sense of meh. TF2:ROFD doesn't do that.
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