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Post by Philip Ayres on May 17, 2016 19:52:40 GMT
This probably deserves it's own thread: From Botcon 2016: |
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Dezzeh
Thunderjet
Wait, what?
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Post by Dezzeh on May 17, 2016 19:53:48 GMT
I assume this is going to be Titan sized, gonna have to save.
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Post by Bogatan on May 17, 2016 19:58:59 GMT
Not with Trypticon out the same year surely.
Having said that current leader class toys might just be too small.
Return of the supreme class?
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Post by Toph on May 17, 2016 20:01:40 GMT
Rumor is leader
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Post by blueshift on May 17, 2016 20:08:26 GMT
I'm assuming he won't be THAT big due to the inevitable Blitzwing remold. And maybe Flywheels.
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Post by Bogatan on May 17, 2016 20:11:54 GMT
Flywheels and or Blitzwing is already happening.
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Post by Bogatan on May 17, 2016 20:13:22 GMT
Hmm not sure if thats one of those things I'm not meant to share.
But TR Megatron is a fairly obvious mould for both/either.
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Post by Toph on May 17, 2016 20:24:53 GMT
Those two names have been in the rumorsphere for a while now. Blitz from megs, and flywheels I think is a revealed titanmaster
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 17, 2016 20:55:21 GMT
Blitz from megs, and flywheels I think is a revealed titanmaster Flywheels AKA Skytread  |
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Post by Marc Graham on May 18, 2016 7:42:33 GMT
Overlord would be tasty, yes....
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 5, 2016 22:53:55 GMT
Blackshadow is Overlord pre/re tool
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 5, 2016 22:54:53 GMT
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Post by Toph on Oct 5, 2016 22:57:55 GMT
So it seems Black Shadow is an overlord retool. I can't remember if I called that or not.
Can't tell if he's a quad-changer, or if he splits apart into two vehicles.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 5, 2016 23:09:14 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 5, 2016 23:13:14 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 6:54:57 GMT
SkyShadow back
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 7:00:19 GMT
Overlord photoshop
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Post by Llama God on Oct 6, 2016 7:02:41 GMT
Looks to me like he splits - unless there's some VERY clever hiding of kibble going on in the tank and plane modes.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 7:06:53 GMT
Can't tell if he's a quad-changer, or if he splits apart into two vehicles. The latter I think. Can't see any jet in the tank and vice versa. If they've done Black Shadow they have to redo as Thunderwing don't they? |
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Post by Toph on Oct 6, 2016 7:18:21 GMT
They need too. And he needs to be extra marvelicious to go with Marvilimus Pri-...err, I mean TR Powermaster Optimus Prime.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 7:21:18 GMT
So it seems Black Shadow is an overlord retool. I can't remember if I called that or not. Effectively, yes I swear if Skyshadow is anither repaint of Jetfire/Starscream, or is a same-wave repaint of Overlord, I will scream. Armada megs being same wave as G1 megs was a mistake. Seekers were a disaster. |
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Post by Toph on Oct 6, 2016 7:24:25 GMT
As long as he and overlord aren't in the same wave, repeating the Megadisaster, I won't scream.
As is, Blaster and Soundwave being back to back was not one of their more intelligent ideas.
Though better than three consecutive waves of Jetfire Seekers.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 7:59:14 GMT
Does Sky Shadow/Overlord have two Titanmasters? |
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Post by Toph on Oct 6, 2016 8:10:34 GMT
I would not use a hasbro toy display as any reliable indication, as they often use multiple duplicates in their displays to show "how much fun these are with moar titanmasters!"
It's certainly plausible that Overlord might cone with two titanmasters since his big defining feature was two powermasters.
But in this, they could easily used the titanmaster from the vehicle mode to boost the display.
Edit: Oh no, wait. The vehicle mode tm is on the tank.
Still think this is just a duplicate for display, though.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 8:17:54 GMT
Here's their computer listings leak from a few months back news.tfw2005.com/2016/09/08/rumor-titans-return-leader-class-overlord-sky-shadow-324573Product numbers for new toys in the same case TEND to be quite similar so the suggestion here is not in the same case. Reading these numbers is a bit of an arcane art but we've got a few at the moment which suggest the ones beginning with 1 are 2017 Wave 2 (Feb) and those with 2 are 2016 Wave 3 (May) |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 6, 2016 15:33:57 GMT
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Post by legios on Oct 8, 2016 11:47:50 GMT
So it seems Black Shadow is an overlord retool. I can't remember if I called that or not. Can't tell if he's a quad-changer, or if he splits apart into two vehicles. From the release order implied by the fact that we're seeing Blackshadow and not Overlord first I'd have assumed that it was more the other way around - that they'd designed Blackshadow to be able to be retooled into Overlord. Really nice looking mold, looks like a fun toy (not convinced about the base mode, although it does remind me a little bit of Sonic Bomber's...collection-of-parts mode). Probably more tempted by it as Blackshadow than I would be as Overlord I think. Karl |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 8, 2016 12:21:00 GMT
It seems to be a new trend, in fact people now seem to be calling it a 'pre-tool' as opposed to retool. Hasbro seem to think they can fool us all into buying figures but then release clearly what the mould is intended to be second. Like Sentinel/Astrotrain, Optimus/Octane, Megatron/Blitzwing and now we're seeing Trion was probably always meant to be Leo Convoy, even if that paint job doesn't come out in the US. I think the Black Shadow/Overlord is the same. They probably get more sales by releasing the more desirable figure from the mould second.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 8, 2016 12:34:52 GMT
What's the point of the bit under the jet nose? It just hangs there under the nose or forms a lump on the back of the gun in robot mode, which means it is removable.
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Post by Toph on Oct 8, 2016 12:37:49 GMT
It emulates how Thunderwing combined with his shell while both in jet mode. Thus the Black Shadow retool as well.
Gen Thunderwing/Skyshadow emulated the exact same thing, too.
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