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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 29, 2020 3:49:31 GMT
The snyth ban was done away with between scenes?? I guess that would happen pretty fast once they learnt the attack on Mars had been engineered by a Starfleet Admiral who was actual secetly a Romulan secret police commander out to frame the synths. Given which, it's kind of surprising Riker & co. let her go so easily. Though I suppose they may not have known it all at that point. And it would have meant a really big battle. Martin |
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Post by Toph on Oct 15, 2020 17:45:18 GMT
I am only halfway through. But in 3 episodes Picard has done more to develope the romulans than the last 50 years combined.
I also really like the visual approach of using all three romulan make-up styles at once.
But these! These are the romulans I always imagined, and always wanted to see!
I also love The Artifact. I love the culture that's (supposedly) grown around the XBs, even if we haven't seen it.
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Post by Toph on Oct 16, 2020 3:41:53 GMT
Caught up and finished! Overall I loved it! I suspect the pacing is probably a bigger issue if you watch it once a week. I loved the romulans. I loved the romulans being actual people. i loved El being so skilled, but still obviously a very sheltered child, and obviously having social issues and issues dealing with what's going on and just so grateful when an adult enters the room. I loved him obviously scared while he's fighting the Tal Shi'ar. You just genuinely want to protect him! I really liked the new look for the Borg. This is the first time I've liked the Borg aesthetics since they switched to rubber suits and CG Cubes in First Contact and carried over into Voyager. These looked more like TNG Borg (the little we saw here) only updated with modern techniques, and the cube was both familiar while fresh. I too am disappointed that they didn't do anything with the parallels between the Borg and the Synths. It's more of a tone issue for me. Picard has not had a happy time since we last saw him prior to this series but it comes across in a non-depressing way. Seven's return just felt unrelentingly grim and horrible. It did not go down well with me. Well, every single episode of Voyager that she's in establishes that when left to her own devices, Seven will make herself miserable. Without Janeway or the Doctor perminantly in her life, she's inclined to go with the situation that will make her most miserable. Yes, watchable and well-produced, but at times feels like the dystopian alternate future that should be solved with some time travel. Maybe Picard can send Soji back in time to before Nemesis and retcon it away 
I had thought that there would be some Romulan prejudice against synthetic life due to something that happened a long time back in their history - like they made some big breakthrough and used it a lot and then some threshold was crossed that changed society in ways they, or at least the Romulan elite, didn't like and they pulled back violently, putting structures in place to prevent it happening again. That would be a nice, TNG-style, take.
The idea that when you cross that threshold SOMETHING IS COMING sounds like portentous nonsense in comparison. But maybe it's a feint and I should wait until the show is finished before judging too harshly.
This is 100% in line with Romulan behavior though.
They find something, it terrifies them, and they spend the next thousand years trying to eradicate it. That's a very Romulan take. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 5, 2021 19:56:40 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 5, 2021 20:01:16 GMT
HURRAH!
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 5, 2021 20:05:45 GMT
YAAAAAS.
-Ralph
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Post by Stomski on Apr 6, 2021 7:05:34 GMT
There's a second series? Damn, this seemed like a one and done and I kinda liked that.
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Post by Jim on Apr 6, 2021 10:14:37 GMT
Tentatively happy to see Q again, but with the qualifier that I found s1 to be too much of a downer and a bit of a mess at times. I _hope_ he will basically be the same old Q and bring some mischief with him. Chances are though he'll be miserable, and dead by the end of the season.
I think I'd be more excited if he were slated to turn up in Discovery, I could see him being fun there.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 6, 2021 15:38:19 GMT
I agree.
-Ralph
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Post by Toph on Jun 16, 2021 8:24:30 GMT
Ohhhh... I found a bit of cleverness. Not sure if it's coincidental or purpose.
But watching through Voyager, and at the episode Timeless, which is the one where Chakotay and Harry make it back while Voyager crashes, and 15 years later, they send a message back in time.
Well, it all revolves around a borg tech maguffin that was salvaged from a wrecked cube found in the beta quadrant.
Which ties very much in with the wrecked cube found in the beta quadrant, featured in Picard.
If it isn't coincidental, then that is one hell of an obscure detail to remember about a possible alternate timeline, to turn into a major plot point in a series 20+ years later.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 16, 2021 21:23:39 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 17, 2021 10:15:19 GMT
It could be...fun this time? I don't want more torture, incest and the trope of 'every returning older character has had a terrible life since we lost saw them and/or something terrible happens to them on the show'.
Q! Time shenanigans! Please be fun!
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Post by Jim on Jun 17, 2021 13:39:01 GMT
Similar hopes and fears here!
There was stuff I enjoyed in s1, but I hope s2 isn't so bleak and bloodthirsty (and violent). Irritatingly, one of the things I enjoyed was the Romulans, and this teaser hints that the broken timeline means we _won't_ see Picard's Irish Romulan friends? Maybe it's too early to assume that...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 19, 2021 13:14:22 GMT
Trailer showed Picard's Romulan housekeeper.
RESULT!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 9, 2021 14:49:11 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 9, 2021 16:56:29 GMT
So (SPOILER!) Picard doesn't die in season 2. That's good to know.
Martin
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 9, 2021 16:59:19 GMT
Or does he?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 9, 2021 19:06:12 GMT
Who can say.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 7, 2022 22:40:03 GMT
Having a rewatch as I expect Paramount will pull it from Amazon soon. 8 episodes in and its better than I remembered. I know its going to fall apart in the final few episodes definitely later than I was expecting. So far the only major issues have been Spoiler
- the language. Its only three or four times but it does feel out of place. And some of its so awkward.
- Hughs death really is pointless. It doesnt change the plot besides maybe requiring Sevens return, but not really and there isnt time for his death to have any meaning.
- Rios having a back story linked to Synths is a pretty odd choice. Its far too unlikely and doesnt seem to add anything. |
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 7, 2022 23:43:07 GMT
Im enjoying this.
Second viewing is way more coherent.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 7, 2022 23:56:44 GMT
Like that actually made sense.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 21, 2022 19:26:36 GMT
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Post by Stomski on Mar 4, 2022 23:53:16 GMT
On Prime now I believe. Will endeavour to have a watch this weekend.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 5, 2022 9:00:23 GMT
What a difference a change of showrunner makes!
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Mar 5, 2022 16:19:30 GMT
Yeah that was so much better.
Though as I said on second viewing season 1 isn't as bad as I recalled. The story is fine, its the editing and how the story is presented that means the audience is paying attention to the wrong stuff. Knowing where the story was going meant I could focus on the right stuff at the right time. I mean that is a ridiculously huge flaw but a flaw on the edit rather than the writing. Or it is a flaw in the writing but the edit could/should have been able to fix it. One or the other.
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Post by Stomski on Mar 9, 2022 13:03:53 GMT
Glad I didn't pay attention to the banner ad on Amazon Fire Stick as the end was a "yay" moment. {Spoiler}They sure are doing a good job of coming up for reasons why people who shouldn't age have clearly aged.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 18, 2022 20:44:06 GMT
I'm enjoying this season but it does remind me of why I usually can't be hooped with streaming shows: very little happens each episode slowly.
The three episodes so far contain enough plot for, at most, 3 acts of an older Trek show.
It's very watchable but fuck me, decompression in tv needs to bugger off. Don't recreate the mistake comics made in the early 2000's!
Episode 1 went like a rocket but 2 and 3 have been paint drying. Pacing!
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 18, 2022 21:32:08 GMT
I look forward to watching it when it's available to view from start to finish.
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 18, 2022 22:19:35 GMT
I feel many streaming shows have learned the wrong lesson from Babylon 5. Arcs are good but you need more than one plot a season.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 25, 2022 22:22:23 GMT
Very little happened this week until the last few mins when suddenly it got interesting and indicated this may not be a re-heat of old older Trek after all. Hmmmm.
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