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Post by blueshift on Nov 17, 2018 14:11:32 GMT
USE planks to MAKE NOISE and wait for dogs to die from the hypothermia which killed us earlier. The creatures are to far away and don't seem interested.
Inventory: | Transformers pants (wearing), camp bed (shackled), green uniform (wearing), shelves | Location: | Small room | Connected Locations: | Remote courtyard |
Current Score: 3/250 STICK FINGERS DOWN THROAT to make ourselves vomit out the window. The dogs will then approach to eat the vomit, and die from the cold.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 14:46:26 GMT
GOOGLE game walkthrough.
If that fails, TAKE defective game back to shop and DEMAND refund / EXCHANGE for Monkey Island.
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 14:54:57 GMT
Stom, do we know everything we need to know to progress further, or have we missed a location/object/clue we need to find first?
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 15:17:54 GMT
You've missed one very simple step that will surely open your mind to how to progress. How would you look at the situation if it was a point and click adventure? What are you missing that's stopping you taking a route out of the situation?
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Post by blueshift on Nov 17, 2018 15:21:18 GMT
You've missed one very simple step that will surely open your mind to how to progress. How would you look at the situation if it was a point and click adventure? What are you missing that's stopping you taking a route out of the situation? You havn't done my action yet, this will solve it for us.
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 16:03:26 GMT
You havn't done my action yet, this will solve it for us. Fine... STICK FINGERS DOWN THROAT to make ourselves vomit out the window. The dogs will then approach to eat the vomit, and die from the cold. Error: Command not recognised
Inventory: | Transformers pants (wearing), camp bed (shackled), green uniform (wearing), shelves | Location: | Small room | Connected Locations: | Remote courtyard |
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 16:12:54 GMT
CLIMB out of window.
I'm sure we've done this, but
EXAMINE Courtyard
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 16:13:13 GMT
or
EXITS
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Post by blueshift on Nov 17, 2018 16:37:38 GMT
CLIMB out of window. I'm sure we've done this, but EXAMINE Courtyard NO DONT Last time we climbed out and the dogs killed us and we couldn't get back or escape the dogs So climbing out the window = death
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 16:50:35 GMT
It's the only way forward, Blue. There's nothing in the room. We've moved forward a location and need to move forward to the next, but aren't seeing something we need to. Besides, if we die again we'll end up back in the first room so it doesn't matter. If climbing out of the window was unavoidable death, we wouldn't be able to do it. Look at Stom's message:
You've missed one very simple step that will surely open your mind to how to progress. How would you look at the situation if it was a point and click adventure? What are you missing that's stopping you taking a route out of the situation?
I think he's telling us we haven't looked for exits out of the courtyard properly. We're looking at what's in it, not the courtyard itself. The parser tells us about connected locations once we've looked for them. I just can't remember if we actually have or not.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 17, 2018 16:54:02 GMT
Hmmm ok
What if
WAIT TWO HOURS until later at night first
This makes it even colder
So when the dogs run out to us, they will instantly die in the cold which instantly killed us earlier.
Then CLIMB out window
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 17:07:25 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 17:23:12 GMT
Oh, okay. Well in that case, if it was a point click adventure I'd be looking for another way out, but if there aren't any other exits I'd be randomly clicking on things to see if they did anything. I think we've exhausted all the options with the information we have, so I can't think of a simple step we haven't done. We've looked at everything and tried to use everything, but nothing's given us a pointer for a solution. We've only got two locations and a handful of objects. I can't see what we've missed.
"What are you missing that's stopping you taking a route out of the situation?"
Something to pacify/bypass the dogs. They're what is stopping us moving. I'm guessing we have to learn how to ride the bike to get to the city in the distance.
Do we have to wait until night in the cell? maybe we'll be brought some food we can then throw to the dogs? That doesn't seem very likely to me.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 17:34:06 GMT
Well, it's too implausible to think we'll get to ride the bike while still attached to the bed.
Somehow use shelf to give us a place of safety when we're outside, so we can get the key and then get somewhere the dogs can't get us, remove the bed, wait for dogs to go away, and then use bike.
Or something.
Martin
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 17, 2018 17:39:22 GMT
Well, it's too implausible to think we'll get to ride the bike while still attached to the bed. Somehow use shelf to give us a place of safety when we're outside, so we can get the key and then get somewhere the dogs can't get us, remove the bed, wait for dogs to go away, and then use bike. Or something. Martin Thats essentially what I did to win the last game.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 17:39:39 GMT
That does sound sensible. I wondered if the shelf would make a ramp for use to get up somewhere, but it doesn't seem likely. We've looked up and know now we can't climb the wall. Did we get as far as putting the shelf across the outlet pipes? we could sit on that and see if that still draws the dogs. But you'd think if there was a pack of snarling dogs in the courtyard barking at us that it would draw the attention of someone.
Unless it draws out the robot guards who shoot the dogs because they aren't guard dogs, just the local wildlife.
Lets try it (have we done this? I've lost track now)
PUT shelf on pipes.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 17:41:36 GMT
Why are the pipes under the window? We don't see them going through the wall on the room side of the window.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 17:45:38 GMT
Or if that fails use some of our clothes to make some kind of rope to hook over the pipes so that we can climb up and down.
Or examine bed more closely and try to dismantle it or get something useful out of it.
Martin
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 17:46:25 GMT
Have we checked inside the pipes?
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 17:52:42 GMT
Yes. Somewhere in the last few pages there's a description of them. It basically said they haven't been used for years and nothing was coming out of them.
Page 8. We examined the pipes:
You hike yourself up to peer over the edge of the window. Underneath are horizontal outlet pipes. Taking a good look, you observe there's not much to them really. Don't seem to have had any user in a long time, they're dry and nothing discernible coming out of them. Despite their apparent lack of use, they seem in good condition.
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 17:57:40 GMT
The pipes are out of reach.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 18:00:28 GMT
How are they out of reach?! they're right under the window we're stood in front of! We just looked at them!
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 18:01:55 GMT
It's a high window and they're on the outside wall.
Ps I hate breaking kayfabe like this, but sometimes you gotta.
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 18:03:00 GMT
CLIMB out of window PUT shelf on pipes LOAD last save point
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 18:09:07 GMT
Hang on a second... How wide are these outlet pipes exactly?
Martin
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Post by blueshift on Nov 17, 2018 18:09:52 GMT
Hang on a second... How wide are these outlet pipes exactly? Martin CLIMB INTO pipes
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 18:11:10 GMT
No no no... that would be messy.
Climb into ONE of the pipes.
Martin
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Post by Stomski on Nov 17, 2018 18:35:10 GMT
CLIMB out of window PUT shelf on pipes It's a little high, but by putting camp bed on the window ledge so it doesn't obstruct you, you manage to hike yourself up and get your first leg over. From there it's a simple case of dropping down to the other side.
New location: Remote courtyard (+3 points)
You look back to the window, it's a little higher than you thought it would be, but no problem - You're at least out of the room now.
To your left is some kind of wheelless motorbike-esque vehicle, from this better angle you can see it's got 2 long bars coming from the front and some kind of front spoiler on the end. A few feet away in the dirt an object glints in the moonlight, to the right the main entrance door and further on a crowbar is propped against the wall. Horizontal outlet pipes jut out of the wall under the window.
It doesn't take long though for growls and snarls to start bearing down on you. 3 or 4 creatures, certainly dog like in appearance, but a lot larger. Red eyes, hunched backs, large claws and teeth, from their head two devil like horns and dark grey furless skin. Their powerful legs propelling them forwards in large bounds rather than a run.
You turn and place the shelves across the outlet pipes, these should provide a secure footing beneath the window.
Item Used: Shelves (+1 point)
Inventory: | Transformers pants (wearing), camp bed (shackled), green uniform (wearing) | Location: | Remote courtyard | Connected Locations: | Small room |
Current Score: 7/250 ARE YOU SURE? Y/N
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 17, 2018 18:45:24 GMT
The key's only a few feet away. Can we get it before climbing up again, or will that kill us?
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Nov 17, 2018 18:56:22 GMT
We managed to get the key without dying last time. I think the dog attack is delayed as long as we're doing the right thing. I think we can get the key, but not unlock the shackle.
It's this really going to transpire that we can step back into the room by standing on the shelf? In my head the descriptions were telling me the pipes were too high to do that because they'd be above our head, directly under the high window.
So that points us to:
GET shiny thing CLIMB onto shelf
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