Anyone want to offer any alternatives for these? Which CHUG figures are the best modern versions of the Diaclone cars in terms of what looks good together as a uniform team (rather than judging toys on their own merits).
I'm set on trying to do 84-87 with CHUG figures. It's getting more possible to realise that now. I agree Skids could do with a better figure, the T30 one is very IDW.
84 I think is very possible now if you throw in some 3P Legends to fill the minibots out, like the Mechanic Studio ones you have for Huffer and Gears. Ideally the jets would be Earth modes, but I reckon... well, what have we got there:
Megatron - Siege (although of course not 84 in the UK)
On reflection I might even go CW Trailbreaker over the T30 one. Again, the IDW feel isn't right for a G1 update. But you're right Ben - they're both too small.
I'd like to see Armageddon give us a new Trailbreaker at the Siege Ironhide height, Sunstreaker and a Voyager Inferno/Grapple mould. I reckon I could live with T30 Hoist and Skids if it meant getting the others.
This is always where my CHUG collection was heading, since CW we've been heading toward a really good collection representing the figures that the modern toy line can do. We're not going to get Pretenders the right size, or a full set of Micromasters with bases, but up to the end of the Headmasters in 88 I think it won't be long before the entire original line will be represented in a style that feels cohesive and in scale.
Shockers! Earthrise will eclipse Siege. Earthrise is the ultimate CHUG.
It's a very exciting time. The 'definitive' CHUG set for the 84-87 mob has been my ultimate goal for ages. If Earthrise is going to give us two key absentees in Grapple and Hoist, with the implication that new Infernos and Trailbreakers will follow... it's MAGICAL.
It's just a shame that Hasbro couldn't decide what on earth they wanted to do. I get they want to retell the arrival story so they can give us updates of older figures, but to totally change the aesthetic half way through is just ridiculous. It's like... well, it's like TFTM when half way through 86 we went from Springer to Galvatron, or Silverbolt to Cyclonus.
I do have an idea though I'd love to see implemented, but I doubt it would be because the CHUG line of toys has needed its own promotional tie-in since it was rebooted with WFC (then FoC, then IDW). We've seen the way the Platinum line has blossomed recently, so there's clearly a market for better finishes on existing moulds. So take the 'Greatest Hits' idea the Thrilling 30 line is and give us the full works boxset equivalent. I'd like Hasbro to go back through the whole of the CHUG era and settle on the definitive mould for each of the original G1 characters and give us box sets of them with Platinum quality finishes, and label sheets, and do it in numbered three figure presentation packs (like those Henkei three packs that came out recently?) that go through in sequence. Give us two a year for each faction, one every three months.
I'd love that. Then you could have the definitive collection of remasters with really nice finishes alongside the original G1 collection of the same figures.
...but to be honest if the Prime Wars trilogy gives us anywhere near a full set of new versions of the old 84-87, maybe 88, 89 toys then I'll be over the moon. That's what I want this to give us - the original toy range in modern, more articulated form and I'd be fine with that tapping out around the 1988 lines. A matching style as opposed to the evolving CHUG styles of the preceding decade would be awesome.
Yes, but since the Generations reboot around 2010 we've had most of them. There aren't many left - Prime Wars did a ton of them. If you're a sucker like I am and buy most of the retail output, the last five years or so has almost done the lot. The problem I see now is what to do with all the extraneous extra figures that have been put out.
I've just been up in the loft for an hour or so, continuing the root and branch sort out of everything in the house that I started when I thought I was moving house. When I bought heavily back into Generations, from FoC onwards, I was buying figures thinking I'd never want to get rid of them because I'd learned that lesson, but holy hand grenades, I've just been through the T30 box thinking, don't need that, don't need that, that's been replaced, don't need that. Suddenly I'm questioning everything.
Although I'm telling myself it's just Generations that needs looking at - other older lines don't have the same upgrading that goes on. Like I'm not suddenly feeling the need to bin all my Unicron Trilogy/Beast Wars or anything like that. But Generations suddenly doesn't feel as 'forever' as it did a few years ago. All those T30 legends figures - most of those are redundant now.
Where's the peak? Will we be looking at Earthrise toys in five years time saying, nah, don't need that. It doesn't feel like we should, but then 12 months ago Siege Prime felt like the best we'd get.
2. You've reached some kind of Higher Collecting Consciousness .
I think there's a Ballance between what you want to keep as a collector 'cos it's your hobby, and what you feel you should keep. There's no right or wrong, and each collector must find his own path. But I am firmly in the camp of 'if stuff just sits in a box year after year- move it on'. Let's take Hoist. The older Generations Hoist is now redundant. Move him on. Jetfire? That old bugger-bo? The previous couple are now redundant. Move them on. Every now and then there will be an older figure that means something a little extra to you, for whatever reason, keep them. Now I suspect I'm far harsher than you are, Pins darling, but fundamentally if you're going for that Dream of the near-as-damnit perfect version of the '84ers onwards, then the redundant figures can be moved on with a clear conscience.
I forget what the question was now, but the above is what I think any road.
I was the one who let you know, I was your sorry ever after, '84, '85. Give me new toys and I'll decide, but I'm really only after, '84, '85.
There is that too. The ever changing, upgrading, refining. I think I need to re-evaluate my CHUG stuff and accept I don't need it all. Why will I ever need T30 Hoist when the Earthrise one looks so good?