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Post by The Huff on Jan 14, 2020 22:51:45 GMT
The weird thing is - I've never really seen Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust as having actual earth modes to begin with.
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 14, 2020 23:01:06 GMT
The weird thing is - I've never really seen Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust as having actual earth modes to begin with. But they've got human sized cockpits! Who on Cybertron would fit in those back then in those heady pre-Nebulan days? |
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Post by The Huff on Jan 15, 2020 12:24:00 GMT
The weird thing is - I've never really seen Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust as having actual earth modes to begin with. But they've got human sized cockpits! Who on Cybertron would fit in those back then in those heady pre-Nebulan days? But so have the Tetra Jets... |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 15, 2020 20:02:49 GMT
WHAT.
That's... a cockpit? no... really? Is it? Oooh.
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Post by Toph on Jan 15, 2020 20:54:36 GMT
WHAT. That's... a cockpit? no... really? Is it? Oooh. Bumblebee and Jazz's sunbow cybertronian modes had cabins, too. This was going to be a plotpoint in War Within, but DW went belly up before they got the chance to explore it. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 15, 2020 21:13:26 GMT
The silliest Cybertron modes are the Triggerbots in the 4,000,000 BC Marvel comics story 'The Flames of Boltax' who are recognisable models of 20th Century Earth vehicle (a Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car, a Grumman X-29 fighter jet and a Suzuki touring motorcycle).  But it's a computer simulation of past events, so the silliness can be explained away by blaming the computer for mixing things up. Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 15, 2020 21:18:47 GMT
Bumblebee and Jazz's sunbow cybertronian modes had cabins, too. Good point, but so did Wheeljack and he was big enough in van mode for Bee to stand inside him. So maybe the cockpits are for Transformers. |
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 15, 2020 21:21:36 GMT
The silliest Cybertron modes are the Triggerbots in the 4,000,000 BC Marvel comics story 'The Flames of Boltax' who are recognisable models of 20th Century Earth vehicle (a Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car, a Grumman X-29 fighter jet and a Suzuki touring motorcycle). But it's a computer simulation of past events, so the silliness can be explained away by blaming the computer for mixing things up. Martin Silly?! Siege has taught us these are perfectly acceptable Cybertron modes. |
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Post by Toph on Jan 15, 2020 21:31:14 GMT
The silliest Cybertron modes are the Triggerbots in the 4,000,000 BC Marvel comics story 'The Flames of Boltax' who are recognisable models of 20th Century Earth vehicle (a Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car, a Grumman X-29 fighter jet and a Suzuki touring motorcycle). But it's a computer simulation of past events, so the silliness can be explained away by blaming the computer for mixing things up. Martin I would have flipped my shit if Siege Optimus was that. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 15, 2020 22:25:59 GMT
Siege Prime's trailer should have looked like that.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 15, 2020 22:28:48 GMT
The silliest Cybertron modes are the Triggerbots in the 4,000,000 BC Marvel comics story 'The Flames of Boltax' who are recognisable models of 20th Century Earth vehicle (a Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car, a Grumman X-29 fighter jet and a Suzuki touring motorcycle). But it's a computer simulation of past events, so the silliness can be explained away by blaming the computer for mixing things up. Martin Convergent principles resulting in highly similar designs. |
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Post by Toph on Jan 15, 2020 23:15:53 GMT
It is a basic universal truth that every so often, the Porsche 962 Le Mans racing car spontaneously and independently happens to evolve.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 15, 2020 23:35:08 GMT
Truth.
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Post by Toph on Jan 16, 2020 0:23:59 GMT
Bumblebee and Jazz's sunbow cybertronian modes had cabins, too. Good point, but so did Wheeljack and he was big enough in van mode for Bee to stand inside him. So maybe the cockpits are for Transformers. That's a whole 'nuther set of problems! |
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Post by Llama God on Jan 16, 2020 7:28:07 GMT
The silliest Cybertron modes are the Triggerbots in the 4,000,000 BC Marvel comics story 'The Flames of Boltax' who are recognisable models of 20th Century Earth vehicle (a Porsche 962-based Le Mans racing car, a Grumman X-29 fighter jet and a Suzuki touring motorcycle). But it's a computer simulation of past events, so the silliness can be explained away by blaming the computer for mixing things up. Martin I would have flipped my shit if Siege Optimus was that. Gods, if only. That are the weird box tank he seemed to turn into the very first time we saw him. But alas... |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 16, 2020 7:36:24 GMT
That are the weird box tank he seemed to turn into the very first time we saw him. But alas...  Martin |
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Post by The Huff on Jan 16, 2020 12:58:44 GMT
That 'box' will always be Optimus Primes true Cybertronian mode to me. Doesn't need to look like anything resembling a vehicle to us, just be functional for what it needs to do.
Do we have a thread just discussing Cybertronian modes?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 16, 2020 15:25:31 GMT
We do now.
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Post by The Huff on Jan 16, 2020 16:31:59 GMT
Doesn't Wheeljack actually have a dashboard, steering wheel and radio mic in his cabin too in Arrival From Cybertron?
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Post by Benn on Jan 16, 2020 18:22:29 GMT
Yep. And do we see a tetra jet interior as well, or just a POV?
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 16, 2020 18:47:09 GMT
That are the weird box tank he seemed to turn into the very first time we saw him. But alas... Martin Are those front wheels meant to be alligned or is one raised up and behind in a spare wheel storage space? |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 16, 2020 18:56:56 GMT
Fusion's a similar model of vehicle, maybe smaller - look at the similarities:  Martin |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 16, 2020 19:07:39 GMT
Martin Are those front wheels meant to be alligned or is one raised up and behind in a spare wheel storage space? To me he still looks like he is transforming. |
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Post by blueshift on Jan 16, 2020 19:53:37 GMT
I love Fusion
Who could he be a repaint of?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 16, 2020 19:59:34 GMT
TFWiki's great. I never realised before today how much of the art in 'And There Shall Come a Leader' was copied from other comics and cartoons.    Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 16, 2020 20:30:57 GMT
I know the WFC and FOC toys are all Cybertron modes - plus the BB, Cliffjumper, Thundercracker and Skywarp in T30 - but what other Cybertron mode toys are there?
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Post by Benn on Jan 16, 2020 20:33:52 GMT
Explicitly? Titanium did some.
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Post by The Huff on Jan 16, 2020 21:15:58 GMT
All the 1987 Headmasters, Targetmasters, Springer, Technobots, Jumpstarters, original Pretenders etc.
I wonder why (storywise) Fort Max's Autobots felt they didn't need to have Earth modes when they came to our planet when most other arrivals needed to be altered to blend in?
Because most of them effectively had 'human' modes perhaps?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 16, 2020 22:41:11 GMT
Explicitly? Titanium did some. YES!!!! YYYEEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!I Knew 6" Titaniums would come back to save the day, one day!!! |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jan 16, 2020 23:17:03 GMT
All the 1987 Headmasters, Targetmasters, Springer, Technobots, Jumpstarters, original Pretenders etc. I wonder why (storywise) Fort Max's Autobots felt they didn't need to have Earth modes when they came to our planet when most other arrivals needed to be altered to blend in? Because most of them effectively had 'human' modes perhaps? They weren't exactly trying to blend in. And maybe couldn't see a need after having lived amongst and with other humans from a different planet for so long. Galan was definitely all we must find the Autobots rather than obey an Autobot equivalent of the Prime Directive. Took him a while to realise the consequences of Autobots in Earth. |
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