Dezzeh
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Wait, what?
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Post by Dezzeh on Aug 25, 2020 16:40:23 GMT
Well now I want a remade Armada Scavenger that isn’t a brick
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2020 16:46:21 GMT
The current design ethos seem to be gimmick-averse so I fear Armada remakes that don't have the play features. Just compare CW Armada Megs to the original. Does fuck all.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 25, 2020 16:56:26 GMT
Confirms product number as E8621 That slots him in before Exhaust in the earlier block of numbers that also covers the Target exclusives. But GS22! So for GS-17 and 20, E9687 is left in the middle of a block that runs Spy Patrol, G2 Megatron, Centurion, ?, Hubcap, Bugbite, Hothouse and Rotorstorm. Then there's F0856 which goes between G2 Sandstorm and Tigertrack. Which tells us... nothing. There's no logic in there at all is there. Only that Sandstorm and Tigertrack seem to be later afterthoughts to the main bunch and are straight easy repaints with no remoulding. If Ratchet really is a two pack with Paradron then that means there must still be more unseen figures, but you could see GS-17 E9687 Ratchet (Accessories reused or remoulded from the Walmart ones) GS-20 F0856 Paradron (straight repaint) Doesn't feel right though. Ratchet isn't a Selects figure, Ratchet is a main line toy. He'd look odd among that lot. He kinda breaks the Selects purpose in being the weird repaint line. |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2020 17:02:57 GMT
Ah but Ratchet wasn't a mainline toy last time. He was a !,!,!;@&@^@:@ exclusive which was an arse to get.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 25, 2020 17:05:44 GMT
Yes, but he was at least in a retail shop, not stuck in a fan focused online range designed to make us all pretend we aren't going 'who the fuck is that then?' when they reveal things.
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 25, 2020 17:07:15 GMT
The current design ethos seem to be gimmick-averse so I fear Armada remakes that don't have the play features. Just compare CW Armada Megs to the original. Does fuck all. -Ralph Thats not really the case. Siege and ER (and even a lot of the CW trilogy) have all heavily played in to the gimmick transformers interacting in a similar way to Armada and Energon. Micromasters turned in to weapons for larger toys, hell we even got a mini Energon Sabre. Weaponisers powered up other figures. I mean we probably arent going to get minicons triggering spring loaded weapons or lights or sounds, but the interaction between smaller and arger toys can still be there. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2020 17:29:44 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2020 17:40:31 GMT
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Post by Toph on Aug 25, 2020 17:52:26 GMT
Rattrap's torso and shoulders looks like Grey Matter's face.  |
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The Huff
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Post by The Huff on Aug 25, 2020 18:06:08 GMT
Those feet are too big. And not just in rat mode. Apart from stability (which could have been solved with a flip out heel) there is no need for them to be that large in robot mode either.
Apart from that, I like it.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 25, 2020 18:40:20 GMT
I was just curious to see from that photo how Core will compare to Legend. Looks pretty much the same height, maybe a bit lighter on plastic.  |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2020 22:50:02 GMT
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Post by Toph on Aug 25, 2020 23:09:49 GMT
I was just curious to see from that photo how Core will compare to Legend. Looks pretty much the same height, maybe a bit lighter on plastic. Rattrap may look ike less plastic than tailgate, but there are two important distinctions- Tailgate, and all TR style legends have to accommodate a cockpit that Rattrap doesn't And Rattrap looks a bit more complex, with more moving parts. |
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Post by Llama God on Aug 25, 2020 23:20:02 GMT
Now that I’ve seen more of that Rattrap I like him more. He’s got a nice robot mode, and at a scale that better suits the characters. That’s enough for him, but there’s still a lot of good Optimus Primal figures already in existence, so we’ll have to wait and see what they can bring to the table...
Although of course as I type this I realise that what I really want is not Beast Wars toys, but show-accurate Beast *Machines* toys. That’s what this line could bring to the table.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2020 6:40:12 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 26, 2020 10:12:23 GMT
I just want to know ONE THING:
Where is Earthrise JAZZ?!
and
Will there be an Earthrise Owl Prowl?!
Ok, actually that's two things. Let me start again.
I just want to know TWO THINGS:
Where is Earthrise JAZZ?!
and
Will there be an Earthrise Owl Prowl?!
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 26, 2020 10:14:36 GMT
There's a Jazz coming in the Studio Series 86 line next year, so he'll (probably?) fit with the Earthrise figures.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2020 10:16:32 GMT
I assume you mean Kingdom in both cases? I just want to know ONE THING: Where is Earthrise JAZZ?! Good question. See also: Skids Will there be an Earthrise Owl Prowl?! Almost all the Kingdom Beasts on the listings leaks are show characters. The only exception is an easy repaint. I don't see Owl Prowl happening unless they do something VERY clever with Airazor. Which reminds me.... |
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 26, 2020 10:18:26 GMT
Yes, yes, 'Kingdom'. Change so fast who can possibly keep up?!
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Post by Toph on Aug 26, 2020 10:20:46 GMT
The rumors also specifically state that there would be no toy-only characters from the BW portion.
Though as Phil pointed out that's been shot down with Shadow Panther's inclusion, so make of that what you will.
But while both are unlikely, I think Magnaboss Prowl is more likely than Owl Prowl.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2020 10:32:18 GMT
CORE EAN # 5010993767038 Optimus Prime: EAN # 5010993764808 Rattrap: EAN # 5010993764792 DELUXE EAN: 5010993766697 Cheetor: EAN # 5010993764754 Warpath: EAN # 5010993764761 Blackarachnia: EAN # 5010993764778 Huffer: EAN # 5010993782253 Pipes: EAN # 5010993782246 Wheljack: EAN # 5010993782239 Tracks: EAN # 5010993782222 Shadow Panther: EAN # 5010993782215 Waspinator: EAN # 5010993782260 Airazor: EAN # 5010993782284 Slammer: EAN # 5010993782185 Wingfinger: EAN # 5010993782130 Ractonite: EAN # 5010993782321 Scorponok: EAN # 5010993782345 Arcee: EAN # 5010993782352 VOYAGER EAN # 5010993767052 Cyclonus: EAN # 5010993767014 Optimus Primal: EAN # 5010993766987 Inferno (Earthrise Grapple Remould) Starscream (Earthrise Repack) Rhinox Tigatron Dinobot LEADER EAN # 5010993767076 Optimus Prime: EAN # 5010993767021 Megatron: EAN # 5010993766970 Galvatron: EAN # 5010993782208 Ultra Magnus: EAN # 5010993782093 OK.... We'll put the core figures for now, Selects hasn't done many smaller toys. Ditto the Fossilisers as they're a bit of an Unknown We can chuck Voyager Starscream and Leader Optimus Prime out cos they're Earthrise repacks. We can also *probably* eliminate Arcee and Wheeljack for the same reason. So that leaves DELUXEWarpath
Huffer
Pipes
Tracks
Slammer
Cheetor
Blackarachnia
Shadow Panther
Waspinator
Airazor
Scorponok VOYAGERCyclonus
Optimus Primal
Inferno
Rhinox
Tigatron
Dinobot LEADERT-Rex Megatron
Galvatron
Ultra Magnus All good so far? Huffer and Pipes are ALMOST CERTAINLY remoulds of each other as are Cheetor and Shadow Panther. They get crossed off the list. So our list of unique toys is thinned down to DELUXEWarpath
Tracks
Slammer
Blackarachnia
Waspinator
Airazor
Scorponok VOYAGERCyclonus
Optimus Primal
Inferno
Rhinox
Tigatron
Dinobot LEADERT-Rex Megatron
Galvatron
Ultra Magnus Now Warpath & Slammer may or may not be remoulds of each other. Both are tanks. However Slammer is a Titan companion so he might be a Weaponiser/Modulator - does that make Warpath one too? A mystery for now. Both Tracks and Inferno could be, and very likely are, remoulds of Wheeljack/Sunstreacker and Grapple from Earthrise. They've stayed IN my list as they'll be substantial remoulding on each and both have obvious repaints for Selects to milk - Road Rage/Loud Pedal and Artfire. But how do we do we think these others will be repainted/remoulded for Selects? Yes we looked at this before off the poster - see tmukhub.proboards.com/post/417447/thread - but the list has evolved somewhat since then. Any ideas? |
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Post by Benn on Aug 26, 2020 10:37:43 GMT
Cyclonus has an Armada, doesn't he?
T rex Megatron into Magmatron.
Dinobot to Grimlock, or Hardhead or Slash.
Rhinox was unique last time, so there's form there, so too with Galvatron.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2020 10:40:57 GMT
Cyclonus has an Armada, doesn't he? Armada Cyclonus is a helicopter. Could they get a Beast Machines Jetstorm out of Cyclonus? |
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Post by Toph on Aug 26, 2020 11:33:57 GMT
I'm gonna hate Cyclonus because he's taking a spot rightfully belonging to Terrorsaur. Cyclonus could have been in Studio Sunbow.
· Rattrap offers us Packrat.
· Waspinator- Buzzsaw
· Megatron- T-Wrecks
· Dinobot- BW Grimlock
· Blackarachnia- Arcee, Crystal Widow, TFA Blackarachnia
· Optimus Primal- Universe Optimus Primal
· Scorponok- Double Punch, Sandstorm
· Rhinox- Evil Rhinox, Backstop
I'd have bet everything we'd get a Selects Shadow Panther from Cheetor. It's the most obvious one to do. Completely blindsided me him being standard retail. And with Tigatron, the most obvious ones are done.
Terrorsaur offered the most repaint potential- Fractyl (in a set with Packrat, I'd kill for), Lazorbeak/Hydra, Swoop, Strafe
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Post by Toph on Aug 26, 2020 11:35:49 GMT
Cyclonus has an Armada, doesn't he? Armada Cyclonus is a helicopter. Could they get a Beast Machines Jetstorm out of Cyclonus? He meant G1 Cyclonus' armada. His version of the sweeps. Namedropped exactly once, and never used again. |
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Post by Jaymz on Aug 26, 2020 19:18:04 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 26, 2020 19:23:33 GMT
Cheetor looks the same as the original.
Why is he holding a vacuum cleaner?
Edit: Hey Look at me with, like, opinions and shit on non '84/'85ers!
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Post by Toph on Aug 26, 2020 19:28:16 GMT
O.O
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2020 20:30:55 GMT
Zoomd in Close Up of the Warpaths |
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The Huff
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Post by The Huff on Aug 26, 2020 20:37:57 GMT
That Cheetor does look like the Cyberverse version in style.
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