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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2020 19:40:50 GMT
Could they get away with slapping a crown & cape on Earthrise Starscream? It's a seeker, and people tend to get OCD about seekers, so yep! Although for me to want that mold as starscream again, it would need to be pretender or g2 decoed. |
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Post by Toph on Jul 25, 2020 19:45:33 GMT
But they can't do that, it's not movie accurate! Like the studio series is supposed to be with all the triple changing Drift and Shatter and Dropkick... Oh Still, can you imagine a Springer that's super screen accurate but only turns into a car or helicopter? I will still to this day never not be at a loss for why in the AoE line, they didn't use Generations Springer for voyager Drift, which looked fairly like him, had a sword, and was a car/helicopter triplechanger, instead of dotm helicopter guy which didn't even vaguely look like him. |
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Post by The Huff on Jul 25, 2020 21:49:07 GMT
Could they get away with slapping a crown & cape on Earthrise Starscream? They shouldn't be able to. It wouldn't be screen acurate, as he went all stylized for that scene with exaggerated details and proprtions. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 17, 2020 8:32:16 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 17, 2020 9:46:41 GMT
Just imagine if Scourge turned out to be the RID2001 one rather than the G1 one!
How more Sunbow can this Starscream be?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 17, 2020 10:14:32 GMT
Existing Earthrise toy, cape and crown, job done.
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Post by Llama God on Aug 17, 2020 11:14:14 GMT
It's not Transformers if you don't feel suckered into having just completed your see- attack jet collection only to have them release one (or more) of the characters yet again but with slight improvements!
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Post by The Huff on Aug 17, 2020 11:18:12 GMT
When Starscream has his coronation, he isn't just wearing a crown, cape and shoulder pads - his entire body seems to have been overhauled. It's sleeker, bigger and just more angled looking.
So a 'screen accurate' toy for that scene needs to be just that. Wether it was just artistic licence or not.
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 17, 2020 11:26:00 GMT
My ER Starscream is dismantled for customising. I'll now hold of on a second one.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 17, 2020 12:26:56 GMT
Existing Earthrise toy, cape and crown, job done. I have previously predicted this. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 13, 2020 15:46:06 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 13, 2020 15:54:13 GMT
Hotrod's chest is fake. That's bad for a deluxe, but inexcusable if it's a voyager as rumored. Surely it is if it makes both modes look better and doesn't cause problems elsewhere? |
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Post by Toph on Sept 13, 2020 16:00:23 GMT
$10 Classics managed without a fake chest and was just fine. $18 TR managed just the same. Even the $5 legion did it. The $20 Siege Sideswipe managed it (different character but same principle).
The $50 leader didn't, but it was also trying to do something no other Hotrod toy had (and it wasn't fake in the combined form)
If a $30 toy can't do it? Weak sauce, man.
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Post by tomwe on Sept 13, 2020 16:59:39 GMT
Since my G1 is now broken, I will HAVE THIS.
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 13, 2020 17:18:56 GMT
I really hope this isn't a Voyager. Given the fuss Hasbro have made about scale since Siege, a Voyager Hot Rod would be right out. A definitive deluxe would be good.
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 13, 2020 19:10:58 GMT
Curious about scale myself. But more because movie studio series prioritised scale within itself, with deluxes being sound to each other, but small compared to the other lines (deluxe Jazz is about the same height as a cyberverse one-step, for example).
Which line will they scale them to?
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Post by Toph on Sept 13, 2020 19:17:33 GMT
I think that's a bit of an iffy example. They're trying to scale with each other to be movie accurate, and Jazz is supposed to be the smallest dude in the first movie. I mean you could say exactly the same about ER Cliffjumper.
Ratchet and a fair few others are about the same as normal Generations deluxes.
But either way yeah, Voyager Hotrod would be massively enormous to anything but MPs or Alternators.
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Post by Kingoji on Sept 13, 2020 19:25:05 GMT
*looks over at Barricade, Shatter, Dropkick and Cliffjumper*
*looks other way at CHUG collection*
Still look smaller to me. *shrugs*
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 13, 2020 19:34:55 GMT
Given they seem to have put the fringe cast in Generations and kept the popular names for Studio Series, it would be daft not to make them fit with each other. I can't see anyone being happy with Hot Rod and the Quint judge being the same size. Or Hot Rod and Siege Springer either.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 13, 2020 20:19:14 GMT
I'd be quite happy if they were the same size. Or any size. I care not for scale, so long as a toy is fun.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 13, 2020 20:29:46 GMT
I wish I could get my mind into that state. If you had 3 3/4 Joes, would they be allowed to play with six or even twelve inch ones?
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 13, 2020 20:55:41 GMT
Sure.
I've just never been bothered about scale with toys. I don't do displays either. I just play about with them and store them randomly.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 13, 2020 22:01:13 GMT
So liberated!
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Post by Toph on Sept 13, 2020 23:11:48 GMT
Even as a kid it aggrivated me when characters were the wrong size.
I hated it when small children like Molly Cunningham from TaleSpin were the same size as the adults.
Likewise, I also hated it (and still do) when something is too big like most people seem to think Optimus Prime is like, 50 feet tall.
TFP was a particular scale nightmare to me when Ratchet ends up with giant tires on his arms and tiny doors on his chest, or Arcee's teeny tiny wheels in her legs. It's pretty bad when your own body can't even have a scale within itself.
Scale doesn't have to be 100% accurate, but when no attempt is made, it always irritates me.
It also bothers me less when some reasonable explanation is given, like Cheetor IDing Waspinator because the other cheetahs were afraid of a giant friggin' wasp. Just that little bit explains that there's no "mass shifting," and while the insects are scaled up, others like Dinobot and Airazor are too, while Megatron is scaled down.
So while that creates it's own sense of scale, it's divorced from reality in a way most TFs aren't.
But yeah. Wrong sized humans absolutely breaks men. Even when I was little, I could never have a four inch Batman face off against a ten inch joker.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 14, 2020 8:18:51 GMT
SCALE IS EVERYTHING!!!
THE DOCTOR IS MAD!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 14, 2020 9:14:53 GMT
Each to their own. Some people like their toys to scale with each other. Some don't. Just different tastes and that is ok.
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Sept 14, 2020 9:29:08 GMT
A good way to get out of a situation where a bunch of Transformers fans start banging on at you about how important scale is, is to start a holy war among them by asking which scale is most important and then quietly slipping away
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Post by The Huff on Sept 14, 2020 13:00:50 GMT
I always took the scale of Transformers toys to be gospel.
So if Slingshot was as tall as Kup in the cartoon then it would be wrong in my eyes.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 14, 2020 14:20:57 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 14, 2020 14:27:05 GMT
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