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Post by Fortmax2020 on Dec 28, 2023 23:47:16 GMT
A moment for the history tapes.
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2023 10:59:36 GMT
It is a mark of maturity to admit when one is wrong.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2023 11:00:04 GMT
I really should open the Christmas version.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 29, 2023 11:40:18 GMT
You should
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2023 13:27:59 GMT
Too late. Christmas has passed.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 29, 2023 13:47:45 GMT
Too late. Christmas has passed. -Ralph Christmas is a state of mind. |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 29, 2023 14:45:14 GMT
Ralph not opening toys either?!
I am noting this down!
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2023 16:08:45 GMT
Too late. Christmas has passed. -Ralph Christmas is a state of mind. It's actually a fixed point in time, chum. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 29, 2023 16:10:36 GMT
Ralph not opening toys either?! I am noting this down! We weren't at home Chrimbo 2022 due to a family emergency so it didn't get opened. I have found this Chrimbo to be rough so it wasn't opened this year. It now cannot be opened until Chrimbo 2024, which is when I will find out if it is one of the copies broken straight out the box. -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 29, 2023 16:55:06 GMT
I advise never opening it. Then it'll be perfect.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 30, 2023 10:51:23 GMT
Christmas is a state of mind. It's actually a fixed point in time, chum. -Ralph You can ignore those when convenient, Doctor Who should have taught you that. |
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 30, 2023 11:05:45 GMT
But this is a Christmas toy.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 30, 2023 11:17:34 GMT
Christmas is a state of mind. It's actually a fixed point in time, chum. -Ralph *TECHNICALLY* Christmas is a period of time, around the fixed day of Dec 25th, that stretches from the start of Advent to the end of 12th Night |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 30, 2023 11:51:31 GMT
*TECHNICALLY* Christmas is a period of time, around the fixed day of Dec 25th, that stretches from the start of Advent to the end of 12th Night No, Advent is the approach/countdown to Christmas, which begins on Christmas Day, just as Lent is to Easter. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 30, 2023 14:35:45 GMT
But, while I take your point about advent, you would agree Christmas is not yet over?
(I'd argue that Advent, as the run up to, is part of Christmas though)
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Dec 30, 2023 14:47:39 GMT
But, while I take your point about advent, you would agree Christmas is not yet over? Correct. The run up to something can't be part of that thing, or it wouldn't be the run up to it. You can't begin something and then have the run up to it while it's happening. Martin |
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Post by legios on Dec 30, 2023 14:48:11 GMT
I think this depends on what you are classifying as Christmas. The religious festival of practising Christians is not the same thing as the precusor winter solstice festivals it overlaps with, which are likewise not the same "end of year" feasting practised by secular society.
The Christian festival of Christmas is generally considered to end at the end of the 12th day after the Christmas itself. (Hence the tradition that it is bad luck to leave the decorations up past "12th Night"). (I'm strictly an outsider, but I would argue that Advent is a separate theoretical construct as it makes the days over which the festival of Christmas is approaching, but has not yet arrived. But that is just me in anthropological hypothesising from a spacealien mode.)
The secular Christmas I'd argue ends at different times for different people - for those employed in retail it ends on the 26th of December with a return to work, whilst for many of those in other employments it tends to blurr into an annual ritual shopping event between the public holidays of Christmas and New Year.
Other classifications of Christmas and definitions of its nature and purpose are available.
I'd suggest that the answer to when Christmas ends is going to vary depending on which "Christmas" one is discussing, and the answer will vary depending on the answer to that question.
Karl
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Post by that_bluestreak on Dec 30, 2023 18:49:08 GMT
Christmas is officially over when there are enough dead trees piled up in the street that a bunch of scamps returning from a night in the pub could feasibly drag them all into the middle of the road and block the street. This may or may not then be set alight by scrotes.
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