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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 7:03:34 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 12:16:45 GMT
Phil, you are good at this- does the code for Shockwave give away the size class?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 13:57:39 GMT
Not as such.... All 5 of these are the same price though, $75 Australian which is roughly $55 US. It is unlikely they're the WFC Leaders, the rumour above says there's only 3 of them and there's five here all at the same price. The markup looks too large to be a Voyager. Shockwave says they're Cyberverse but the product number are known for one of Op, Megatron & Shockwave in all Cyberverse sizes bar the Ultras.... and they should only be around $20 US. No Magnus or Jetfire has been announced for Cyberverse yet either. So the answer is not only do we not know what siuze they are, we don't know for sure what line they're from! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 14:40:57 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 15:48:42 GMT
Can some of them be Bumblebee or Studios figures?
And- SPRINGER!!!
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2018 15:49:53 GMT
Surely some of these have to be Cyberverse. More than a few characters are confirmed for Cyberverse, and Hasbro's past policy was to not have the same character in multiple lines on the shelf at the same time, with the exceptions being Optimus, Megatron, and Starscream.
Could some of these even be Movie Studio, or Bumblebee Movie? And they do like the codenames for movie toys.
Not saying this can't change, because they do seem to be going for maximum confusion lately.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 14, 2018 16:23:38 GMT
Does sorting by price help? The third column is the equivalent price in pounds using today's exchange rate. | Rockhounds (E3633 | 11.93 | 6.6927 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | ACES (E3638 | 11.93 | 6.6927 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Rescue (E3562 | 14.91 | 8.3645 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Starscream (E3527 | 14.91 | 8.3645 | Release Date 08/01/2018) | | Megatron (E3528 | 14.91 | 8.3645 | Release Date 08/01/2018) | | Battle (E3558 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Sports Car (E4492 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Road Patrol (E4494 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Race Car (E3557 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Airstrike (E3560 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Spy (E3561 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Prowl (E3647 | 14.93 | 8.3757 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Stingray (E4000 | 19.41 | 10.889 | Release Date 02/01/2019) | | Hot Rod (E3639 | 22.4 | 12.5664 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Prowl (E3636 | 22.4 | 12.5664 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Woodducks (E3639 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Greenjackets (E3640 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Dino (E3699 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 08/01/2019) | | Sixgun (E4378 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 04/01/2019) | | Drift (E4710 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 08/01/2019 | | Nitro Blue (E2802 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 02/01/2019) | | Deluxe Cog (E3536 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Deluxe Hound (E3537 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Prowl (E3540 | 29.88 | 16.7627 | Release Date 04/01/2019) | | Barricade (E3700 | 29.98 | 16.8188 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Sideswipe (E3726 | 29.98 | 16.8188 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Crankcase (E3744 | 29.98 | 16.8188 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Red Lightning (E3831 | 29.98 | 16.8188 | Release Date 04/01/2019) | | Thundercraker (E4490 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Springer (E4491 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Optimus Prime (E3541 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Megatron (E3543 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Starscream (E3544 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Bumblebee (E3641 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Bumblebee (E3641 | 44.82 | 25.144 | Release Date 04/01/2019) | | Ultra Magnus (E3479 | 74.71 | 41.9123 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Megatron (E3750 | 74.71 | 41.9123 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Shockwave (E3576 | 74.71 | 41.9123 | Release Date 12/01/2018) | | Jetfire (E3748 | 74.71 | 41.9123 | Release Date 01/01/2019) | | Optimus Prime (E4522 | 74.71 | 41.9123 | Release Date 08/01/2019) |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 16:29:30 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 16:31:16 GMT
Do we think that $75 price range are Generations Leaders then?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 16:38:11 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 16:39:43 GMT
Do we think that $75 price range are Generations Leaders then? Leaders of some description. |
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 16:40:31 GMT
Do we think that $75 price range are Generations Leaders then? I have seen on Tfw (where Phil is doing a lot of work!) that these might be Studios Leaders. |
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 16:42:42 GMT
Hound and Ironhide back around quickly it seems. |
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2018 16:48:01 GMT
Do we think that $75 price range are Generations Leaders then? I have seen on Tfw (where Phil is doing a lot of work!) that these might be Studios Leaders. $75au translates to $55usd, which is just a bit above where the MSS leaders hover around! Good catch! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 17:01:37 GMT
Hound and Ironhide back around quickly it seems. Both allegedly seen in WFC Op's artwork last night |
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 14, 2018 17:03:37 GMT
UUUHHHHHH!!!!!!
UUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
UUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 17:36:22 GMT
Let me help with that translation: UUUUUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 17:56:20 GMT
Hound and Ironhide back around quickly it seems. Both allegedly seen in WFC Op's artwork last night   Wheeljack in there too I see! Wasn't he paired with Impactor in the fan vote? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 18:06:19 GMT
Our Poll Results: Which 2 pack in the 2018 Fan Vote would you vote for?
Needlenose vs Tracks (Brother vs Brother)
2nd - 1 vote (16.67%)
Spinister vs Wheeljack (Saboteur vs Scientist)
3rd - 0 votes (0%)
Impactor vs Mirage (Greater Good vs Greater $$$)
1st - 5 votes (83.33%) |
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 18:08:06 GMT
Our Poll Results: Which 2 pack in the 2018 Fan Vote would you vote for?
Needlenose vs Tracks (Brother vs Brother)
2nd - 1 vote (16.67%)
Spinister vs Wheeljack (Saboteur vs Scientist)
3rd - 0 votes (0%)
Impactor vs Mirage (Greater Good vs Greater $$$)
1st - 5 votes (83.33%) Wheeljack gives me hope for a Spinister then! |
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 18:22:22 GMT
And, since I now have it all in Excel, here's the info AGAIN ordered by price and size class Hi Phil, Can you please re-post this updated list but in numerical order like you did further back, but with the prices and putative size class included? I think I have worked it out! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 18:43:15 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 18:53:44 GMT
Cheers!
Doing this piecemeal so sorry about multiple posts!
Ultra Magnus is Generations Leader, and Shockwave almost certainly is too.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 18:55:48 GMT
What's your reasoning there?
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 18:55:59 GMT
Everything 37xx is movie.
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 18:59:08 GMT
Everything 36xx isn't Generations.
Most of it is movie, the two Prowls make me wonder if some of it is Cyberverse? Although on basis of nothing I will guess Prowl is a Bumblebee movie figure.
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Post by Toph on Jul 14, 2018 19:04:42 GMT
You know, Hotrod could be anything.
Though no toy has been announced yet, he's a confirmed Cyberverse character.
He also got an exceptionally ridiculously limited release in TLK, so he could be a MSS reissue. He could also be in the movie, and a new toy.
And his targetmaster is the first (and only) announced battlemaster in the Siege line. Sideswipe is basically Hotrod in robot and vehicle design, so it'd be a straight forward retool to get him the rest of the way. And we've had three brand new Hotrods in a row in Generations, as it is. A fourth wouldn't be a shocker.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 19:06:58 GMT
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Post by drmick on Jul 14, 2018 19:13:02 GMT
On Shockwave? Just that the first two digits are all Generations, and the last two agree in similar area to Ultra Magnus.
I will stop there I think. The price range on Prowl and Hot Rod implies Cyberverse.
There are numbers missing, presumably Sideswipe' s wave mates are missing?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2018 19:22:38 GMT
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