primenova
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Post by primenova on May 1, 2008 10:52:45 GMT
The news had that story on bees dieing off & going to results in less food for us grown in the UK. No way could they have wrote this fact into the new series.
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Post by The Doctor on May 1, 2008 19:22:25 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on May 1, 2008 19:52:59 GMT
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Post by legios on May 1, 2008 20:40:18 GMT
It is rather an entertaining thing to be tinkering about with. (And no, I haven't got anything hacked together sufficiently like what I am getting at to call finished. But I can see me going back again to have a hack about in due course. It is rather fun. Rhino-men! On... welll, everywhere really.... Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on May 1, 2008 20:42:18 GMT
You too want to make the Rhinomen march through the universe!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 1, 2008 21:02:48 GMT
Finally saw this tonight. OK. Bernard Cribbins waltzed off with the show, blindingly brilliant and towering above anyone else on screen with him.
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Post by The Doctor on May 3, 2008 21:17:38 GMT
Sontar ha!
-Ralph
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Post by KnightBeat on May 3, 2008 21:58:26 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 3, 2008 22:08:52 GMT
Yeah I spotted her.
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on May 3, 2008 23:41:55 GMT
I love Mace getting pissed off and finally telling the Doctor, effectively, "bog off" and then leading UNIT in kicking Sontaran arse.
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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2008 9:21:29 GMT
It was so quick I thought I had hallucinated it! Which is why I made an effort to read the super-fast end credits to check it was real. Very solid two-parter all round. Yeah, Dr Science was screaming when the Doctor set the atmosphere on fire but it is Doctor Who. Not a show known for scientific accuracy! Great, great stuff. I was upset to see General Staal buy it, but then the Sontarans are a clone race. There must be millions of him! He can return! He must return! Imagine him teamed up with Baines from The Family of Blood! Camp beyond camp! YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT! -Ralph |
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Post by legios on May 4, 2008 20:54:50 GMT
Yeah, I spotted Rose. Although I will admit my response was "Ah, Rose. Must be more set-up stuff." and a shrug, rather than anything else.
Fairly much by the numbers as far as the resolution went. Having set most of the dominoes up the first part it was really a case of making them fall in the second. What mattered was how effectively they managed the process of toppling them, and I thought they did a pretty good job with it. They managed to maintain a good strong pace for most of the episode certainly.
Dr Science certainly was screaming for mercy when it came to the "setting the atmosphere on fire" sequence. But fortunately, this being "Doctor Who", science doesn't really matter. I'd judge it a bit mroe harshly if it was a piece of "Science Fiction" but Doctor Who uses science as a synonym for magic so it doesn't really matter.
Was struck by the Doctor's rather, inconsistent, morality mind you. "I don't like guns, blokes with guns aren't my friends. People smacking people on vulnerable parts of their bodies with hammers, and using incendiary bombs to light whole armies on fire is fine though". I'm not sure if it is deliberate that the script juxtaposed the Doctor's "thing" about guns with him planning to use what was effectively a tactical scale weapon against the Sontarans and burn them to death. Sort of undermines his position as a moral arbiter really. But then the Doctor's relationship with weapons has always been a little bit "rubbery" to say the least.
Very miffed that General Staal is dead - it means that there is no chance for a rematch, short of doing something clever and semi-paradoxical. Perhaps they can get the actor back for a similar role at a future date.
Ah yes, Colonel Mace - he was doing so well, standing up to the Doctor and stating his position, remembering that the biggest set of desk fans on Earth work for his organisation, and then doing something sensible about the Sontaran anti-gun magic . Then he just sort of falls off the back end of the script a bit. Ah well, I have a strange feeling that we may not have seen the last of him.
Yeah, decent stuff. Enlivened by the presence of the late General Staal - a good villian is always valuable.
Also, Bernard Cribbins survived the poison gas - thus all is right with the world.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on May 4, 2008 21:03:34 GMT
I do suspect this 2-part story is one of those ones that will fall apart under much scrutiny at all, but it was rather fun and great tosh, and sometimes we just need something like that.
Also, going by the trailer for next week's episode, I predict this may finally finish off OG. I'm not sure their servers can take it. The forum explosion may wipe out vital parts of the internet. Prepare!
And I must say, yon lass leaping about through the lasers does look rather pretty.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on May 4, 2008 21:15:10 GMT
I do suspect this 2-part story is one of those ones that will fall apart under much scrutiny at all, but it was rather fun and great tosh, and sometimes we just need something like that. Oh absolutely, the logic of the plot falls apart if you look at it funny, let alone try to analyse it. Definitely one for the "not big, not clever" column - it's the televisual equivalent of fast-food. There is little there to nourish you, or to get your teeth into, but every so often you just fancy some empty calories. Yes, I'm fairly certain that their servers will pass the fanboy event horizon and collapse into a singularity. I'd recommend not standing too close for the sake of safety. A bit blonde for my tastes I'm afraid. Karl |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on May 4, 2008 21:18:39 GMT
I do suspect this 2-part story is one of those ones that will fall apart under much scrutiny at all Better than falling apart during viewing like Raynor's last 2-parter! |
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Post by The Doctor on May 6, 2008 16:59:11 GMT
I am tempted by The Invasion of Time on DVD. I hear it's tatness calling to me. But I must resist. Resist!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on May 6, 2008 20:36:25 GMT
I too am tempted, but remember you must only be patient for a few months and then into a sale it will go.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on May 6, 2008 20:38:04 GMT
True, which is what I will probably do.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on May 6, 2008 20:42:31 GMT
That's my plan. I tend not to pay full RRP for Who DVD's these days. I either hunt around and find them cheap on-line, or I wait till they come down a bit in price. In due course though I do feel that I have to pick up "The Invasion of Time" it is terribly entertaining (and in places entertainingly terrible)
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on May 6, 2008 21:05:33 GMT
I usually pick them up in sales as they end up cheap quite quickly these days, though I fear an exception must be made for THE TRIAL OF A TIMELORD which will be pre-ordered. Oh yes.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2008 20:58:11 GMT
I was quite taken aback by how staggeringly fucking awful this week's episode was. Hard to believe it was from the same series as, er, any other episode made since 2005. Utterly generic, bland and achingly predictable SF bollocks of the highest order. Honestly, I was smacking my head every few minutes at the sheer stupidity of the plot, dialogue, sets, script, the Hath...
And don't start me on the Doctor's daughter being nowt more than a genetic sample cop-out. ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! FUCK SAKES! I really had hoped we would be meeting his real daughter. After all, he had to have had one, considering he travelled for some time with his grandaughter.
Ah well. Can't all be winners. Next week's looks fun!
-Ralph
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Post by KnightBeat on May 10, 2008 22:01:33 GMT
Special criticism must also go to the Confidential episode that failed to mention that he travelled with his granddaughter. They seem to have cut back on the time dedicated to original clips of the classic series.
Edit: Any bets that Jenny will be back in a few years time to him a new set of regenerations?
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 10, 2008 22:31:16 GMT
I really had hoped we would be meeting his real daughter. After all, he had to have had one, considering he travelled for some time with his grandaughter. Ah well. Can't all be winners. Next week's looks fun! You're wrong. The daughter of his *son* would still be his Granddaughter. The Doctor could have just had male children. I quite enjoyed it. It was much better than the tosh they dished up for the last 2 episodes last year. Now those eps *were* male genitalia. Yes next week's does look rather good in a tooth and claw type way. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2008 8:57:17 GMT
I really had hoped we would be meeting his real daughter. After all, he had to have had one, considering he travelled for some time with his grandaughter. Ah well. Can't all be winners. Next week's looks fun! You're wrong. The daughter of his *son* would still be his Granddaughter. The Doctor could have just had male children. . Of course. What I meant was that having seen last week's trailer, I had the assumed this lass was going to be the Doctor's real daughter, ie that he had one. There's no reason why he couldn't have had a son. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2008 15:53:28 GMT
I agree. The point of it completely eluded me. I hate that kind of cheat, or the 'Daimon Bok* Excuse' as I call it. Still that was the least annoying thing about the episode. The guest acting was pretty bad but for me the script stunk above all else. Hard to believe it was the same writer as 'The Lazarus Experiment' which was hardly a classic but was a decent runaround with some nice bits in the church. Maybe he was having an off-day. Having a look on-line, 'The Doctor's Daughter' seems to be a real love-it-or-hate-it episode. Which is fair enough. Variety is the spice of life and all that. And one dodgy episode isn't going to turn me off the show! And it's only TV, after all. -Ralph *From that bollocks Star Trek TNG episode where Picard's son turned out not to be his son. memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Bok |
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 11, 2008 16:44:29 GMT
As opposed to Bok from the Daemons. Which is filmed down the road from Phil's DFiS
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Post by kayevcee on May 11, 2008 17:11:34 GMT
I thought this episode (what I caught of it after racing home from work) was okay. Good thing I wasn't at Ralph Towers hearing you nail it to the wall or I might hate it by now too!
-Nick
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Post by charlesrocketboy on May 11, 2008 18:15:44 GMT
And don't start me on the Doctor's daughter being nowt more than a genetic sample cop-out. ARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! FUCK SAKES! Every scene with Jenny is valuable minutes of life that I wasted. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2008 18:38:59 GMT
Take joy in the thought that perhaps a clone of General Staal may hunt her down.
-Ralph
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Post by charlesrocketboy on May 11, 2008 21:19:15 GMT
Sontar-HA!
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