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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 10, 2007 17:06:10 GMT
What do folkes think to Hereos? I'm love love lovin' it! Plots really twisting along nicely. Lovin' most if not all of the characters. Really good take on 'super-hero'ness. And I said Goddamn, that cheerleadersa honey!
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2007 17:29:45 GMT
She's only 16!
I quite enjoyed season 1, especialy any time Mr Bennet was on screen. Haven't seen any of season 2 yet. Waiting until the mid-season break when I shall er, download them and watch a big batch of eps in a marathon. My BBC2 picture is unwatchable.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 10, 2007 18:50:41 GMT
We had a vcr incident half way through. S1 DVD on order to sort this out
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Post by Dave on Nov 10, 2007 22:20:35 GMT
Oh Heroes is great and I love watching it on BBC3 at the moment. The rather lovely Hayden is 18. Though thinking about it, she may well have been 16 when the first season was being filmed so we are indeed in dirty old man territory.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 10, 2007 23:36:14 GMT
I can handle being a dirty old man. Mind you, any dirty old men that look at my daughter when she's 16 and I'll kung-fu their ass! Double-standards much?
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 11, 2007 2:41:08 GMT
Season 2 started off very badly, only just started to pick up. Tim Kring even apologised for it.
And it's only running for 11 eps thanks to the writer strike.
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Post by Hero on Nov 11, 2007 9:54:34 GMT
Heroes has'nt caught on with me yet, I still prefer Smallville for my no tights no flights superhero viewing. Like with Heroes the newest season has been cut short due to the strike.
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 11, 2007 10:09:32 GMT
Season 2 started off very badly, only just started to pick up. Tim Kring even apologised for it. And it's only running for 11 eps thanks to the writer strike. I can understand most of the complaints and most of what King mentioned was true the first 6 episodes could have been told in 4 or even 3 episodes, but I dont think its been that bad just slow. I only got around to watching the episodes after we'd got the first 6 and it worked well, I think though watching them at a pace of one a week would have been bad. Maybe this is one of those case of a season best watched on DVD. Volume 2 ending at episode 11 is probably for the best. I would like to get Volume 3 this season though. Andy
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 11, 2007 17:31:58 GMT
Huh, only 11 eps in S2 'cos of a strike? I've never heard of that before, has anyone else? We've only got terestrial TV, so just comming to the end of S1. Hope Hereos doesn't go the way of Lost in dragging stories out. Just get on with it!
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Post by legios on Nov 11, 2007 20:01:37 GMT
I've seen however far with Heroes that BBC 2 have aired of the first season. It is diverting enough tosh. Varies from the low end of acceptable to half-decent, mostly dependent on who is actually onscreen at any given moment - Mr Bennett is great, Matt Parkman is a fun character to watch be well-meaning, try hard and still steadily make his own life worse and worse. Some of the other plot arcs aren't really doing a lot for me - Sylar for example, is not really as clever an idea as they seem to think he is. The actor is decent, but as far as the character goes... he's a superpowered serial killer, I get it already. A shame Peter Petrelli and his "explodo-plot" is the one of the main focal points for the show though. I'm not sure if it is the character or the actor but I find him crushingly dull, and as a result I'm not sure whether I care if he is going to blow up or not.
(Bonus points for the comedy value of so much of the dialogue they give to Doctor Suresh though - he is doing a fine job of delivering utter nonsense every episode).
It is diverting enough nonsense, but nowhere near as good as its hype or as innovative as some sources seem to think. If you believed the hype that it has got then the show has the ability to walk up walls or something. It's decent enough tosh but I think the BBC need to push their spectacles up their nose slightly seeing as they seem to have mistaken it for actual drama.
Karl
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 11, 2007 22:33:04 GMT
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 11, 2007 23:27:35 GMT
Cheers Jaymz!
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 12, 2007 0:28:41 GMT
Yes it looks as though it's going to screw over most US television and leave thousands unemployed. After less than a week the networks and studios started firing PA's. 24 is already postponed and Lost has just 8 episodes ready. Worst of all Joss Whedons new show wont go ahead till its over. And Smallville after finally getting good last year might get its last season screwed (if it is it's last) Oh and theres no new Daily Shows on More 4. Andy
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 12, 2007 0:36:16 GMT
A shame Peter Petrelli and his "explodo-plot" is the one of the main focal points for the show though. I'm not sure if it is the character or the actor but I find him crushingly dull, and as a result I'm not sure whether I care if he is going to blow up or not. I'm a little confused by the guy as well. He must be doing something right cause in terms of star status hes as big as Hayden (I've got a ridiculous surname) the cheerleader(who is indeed fit). I had the same problem you have with him in Gilmore Girls. But there were a couple of great performances in between the teen rebellion crap, so i think its a lot to do with the fact he spends half his screen time being a plot device. Andy
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Post by elliotthopkins on Nov 12, 2007 12:28:12 GMT
Eden or the Senator's wife for me!
Mrs. Senator's eyes are gorgeous.
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Post by Hero on Nov 12, 2007 12:55:11 GMT
I think I need to watch Heroes over again from the start. I am sure I missed something. As for Smallville it is contracted to run for an 8th season and also a Supergirl spinoff series. The writers strike really should be resolved asap if things are as bad as people say they are.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2007 17:10:38 GMT
It looks like the writer's strike will drag on for quite some time. And fair enough. I can live with fewer tv shows, etc if it means the writers will be better paid for their efforts.
It isn't like there's a shortage of stuff to watch in the meantime anyway. Many movie and TV scripts were stockpiled ahead of the strike.
-Ralph
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Post by panderson on Nov 12, 2007 18:35:26 GMT
Eden or the Senator's wife for me! Mrs. Senator's eyes are gorgeous. Without ref to IMDB I think thats David Duchovinies wife - she is indeed nice and I am not that keen of Cheerleader - Mystique -alike lass (have we got that far in UK yet) is more my speed - dark head and psuedo evil
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Post by elliotthopkins on Nov 12, 2007 20:40:59 GMT
The senators wife isn't Tea Leoni.
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 12, 2007 23:18:23 GMT
And Smallville after finally getting good last year might get its last season screwed (if it is it's last) You liked season 6 of Smallville? I thought it was terrible. I really don't know why I still watch the show, but season 7 has been better than 6.
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Post by panderson on Nov 12, 2007 23:21:21 GMT
My hazy memory of her felt sure she was - sorry Now I have bothered to check - doh Though do know where I saw her before - She was a regular on the Choncile - this thing I watched on Sc-fi whci soooo wanted to be Kolchak..and Kolchal becmae X-files with David Duky...see where my twisted mind went...well thats my excuse
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 13, 2007 0:25:02 GMT
And Smallville after finally getting good last year might get its last season screwed (if it is it's last) You liked season 6 of Smallville? I thought it was terrible. I really don't know why I still watch the show, but season 7 has been better than 6. It was the first time for many years I wanted to see the next episode. It might of helped having them all downloaded, but yeah the previous couple years I think I saw most of them but they'd be sat waiting on video or hard drive for weeks. Season 6 for the first time (to me) felt like it was creating its own version of the mythos rather than screwing up one or more of the old ones. At the same time it seemed like it was moving in a direction towards where all the characters are supposed to be. 7 is shaping up nicely, it might be better but I'll have to wait till the end of the series to say. Andy
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Post by Jaymz on Nov 13, 2007 0:54:52 GMT
7 is shaping up nicely, it might be better but I'll have to wait till the end of the series to say. I haven't truly enjoyed the show for a long time, but I still watch it so they must be doing something right.
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Post by Cullen on Nov 14, 2007 13:20:53 GMT
Loved series 1 of Heroes, but series 2 only started getting good with last weeks episode. Haven't watched Monday's ep yet so don't know if the quality is continuing. The first 6 episodes were cack though - I felt like the characters were just treading water for 6 weeks because the writers didn't know how to move things forward.
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Post by legios on Nov 30, 2007 20:52:33 GMT
Hmmm. So, I made it through the glacially slow early episodes of Season One, and quite enjoyed the middle section. But as we slowly approach the ending of the season I am finding my attention wandering more and more often. This may be because two of my least favourite characters are occupying more and more of the screen time - the mutant serial killer, who is really running the gamut of all the Hollywood Serial Killer cliches at this point, and Peter Petrelli, who is possibly the dullest character I have seen in a long time(and I've seen "Robotech:The Shadow Chronicles"'s Vince Grant who takes some beating to that title).
I'm still enjoying it whenever Mr Bennett is onscreen - an actor who knows he is in melodrama and plays up a bit accordingly - and Masi Oka's Hiro Nakamura is a great character who has really come into his own in terms of having a character arc. However, they are really going to need to sort themselves out and do a rousing conclusion to the first series. Otherwise I'm not sure I'd be prepared to come back for a second.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 30, 2007 22:19:19 GMT
Don't worry, Mr Bennett still has plenty to do...
Despite quite enjoying season 1, I haven't bothered to watch any of season 2 yet. I think it's because the show feels like it's come to a natural conclusion by the end of season 1.
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Post by legios on Dec 2, 2007 11:52:26 GMT
Don't worry, Mr Bennett still has plenty to do... Good, Good. I'd hate to see him fade into the background because he really is one of the stand-out members of the ensemble. In fact I'd go so far as to say he was my favourite character of the entire lot. It certainly feels like it is headed in the direction of tying everyone off as a character. There are still two episodes to go but it feels as if everyones arc is being put in position to do something definite with it. Karl
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 2, 2007 14:01:24 GMT
EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! Shockprowl household very excited! Last two eps of series 1 on on Wednessday! EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Post by Cullen on Dec 2, 2007 18:45:12 GMT
Don't worry, Mr Bennett still has plenty to do... Despite quite enjoying season 1, I haven't bothered to watch any of season 2 yet. I think it's because the show feels like it's come to a natural conclusion by the end of season 1. -Ralph I feel the same Ralph although I have watched series 2, which is a complete mess at the moment. You get the feeling the writers didn't expect Heroes to last more than 1 series and were completely shocked they had to come up with more episodes. It fails around for about 5 episodes, then starts to find it feet, but is now turning into a rehash of series 1. So much lost potential.
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Post by legios on Dec 5, 2007 22:51:54 GMT
Hmm. So I watched the last couple of episodes this evening..... Very mixed feelings to be honest. On the one hand I didn't think that the nominal "conclusion" to the drama (as opposed to the epilogues and codas) was particularly firing on all cylinders. Fell a little flat to be honest and just didn't work for me on the dramatic level that it was aiming for. On the other hand Noah Bennett had some cracking character stuff to do - proving once more that he is the nails-hardest character in the show, far more so than the walking stereotype of a serial killer. (I have decided now - once my eyesight deteriorates enough, and it will, I shall be getting myself a nice pair of horn-rimmed specs through which to gaze at the world). They did with Parkman exactly what I was expecting - and it was a fairly satisfying way to wrap up his character arc.
In fact they seem to have tied up everyones character arc pretty effectively there - even if they fumbled the ball in the process of getting some of it on-screen.
Can't see me bothering to watch a second season of it though. I came away from this evenings episodes with a strong sense of "Are we done here? Yeah, I think we're done here." (Unfortunately the US television model actively works against folk getting out of dodge once they've said what they have to say).
An ok show which entertained reasonably well - but nowhere near as clever or as innovative as the BBC seem to think it is.
Karl (and now, unless I can get Channel Five back my broadcast TV viewing hours per week drop to a nice round number. Zero.)
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