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Post by charlesrocketboy on Apr 12, 2009 11:23:13 GMT
Steve Bax reminded me a while back that, oh yeah, IDW's talking about a G1 ongoing (they mention it in the AHM #12 solicits). We both agreed they should've done one ages ago, but better late than never I guess...
Anyone excited? And what do we think the creative team/stories will be like? At this point, it's too much to hope we're going back to the -ations style and setting...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2009 13:04:57 GMT
If any of the recent G1 stories are anything to go by I don't hold out much hope for them.
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Post by grahamthomson on Apr 12, 2009 13:42:39 GMT
I would certainly like to see a return to the "Dead Universe" storyline. There are still so many unanswered questions. What were the other planets Shockwave seeded? Was Nebulos one of them? What are the intergalactic ramifications of the Tyrest Accord? And so on.
The new "All Hail Megatron" direction has spectacularly failed to keep my attention. I gave it a fair chance, £10 worth in fact. I gave Furman's early IDW work the same chance and stuck with it.
Simon Furman may not be the best writer out there, but in the last ten years' of Transformers comics, he's given us both his best and the best of IDW's output. In my opinion, anyway.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 12, 2009 16:05:20 GMT
Steve Bax reminded me a while back that, oh yeah, IDW's talking about a G1 ongoing (they mention it in the AHM #12 solicits). We both agreed they should've done one ages ago, but better late than never I guess... Anyone excited? And what do we think the creative team/stories will be like? At this point, it's too much to hope we're going back to the -ations style and setting... Won't be either Furman or McCarthy apparently. That is very worrying to be honest. |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Apr 12, 2009 17:09:03 GMT
Won't be either Furman or McCarthy apparently. Really? That's interesting. Either we're getting another totally new writer, or they're going with one of the other guys they've had writing Transformers - and that might be a bad idea, I'd certainly be interested in what Mowry or Nick Roche had to do with G1. |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 12, 2009 17:30:16 GMT
I'm only interested in this if it doesn't follow the AHM-style direction and McCarthy is nowhere near it.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Apr 12, 2009 19:12:58 GMT
I think they should just start again from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed '-tion'. But I think it's too late now to go back to that arch, after AHM. Grr, I want to like AHM, 'cos, at times, the characteristation is good. But the overall story-arch, and pace of it or lack there of, has just beaten me into a pulp. I'm totaly deflated at the mo. Find myself not caring what the freak is next from IDW. Never thought I'd say that. Need better writing. Marvel's Mark Millar, Paul Jenkins or Greg Pak- just imagine that.
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Post by blueshift on Apr 12, 2009 19:33:34 GMT
I think they should just start again from scratch. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed '-tion'. But I think it's too late now to go back to that arch, after AHM. Grr, I want to like AHM, 'cos, at times, the characteristation is good. But the overall story-arch, and pace of it or lack there of, has just beaten me into a pulp. I'm totaly deflated at the mo. Find myself not caring what the freak is next from IDW. Never thought I'd say that. Need better writing. Marvel's Mark Millar, Paul Jenkins or Greg Pak- just imagine that. Well you say that, and I know people always want guys like Geoff Johns on Transformers, but personally the only writer I feel ever 'gets' it is Simon Furman. Maybe not his later stuff, but his earlier stuff was pretty much genius and I've felt dissatisfied with every other writer who's tried. Maybe that is because TF to me was the UK comics so any other 'worldbuilding' seems wrong, but I've never felt any other writer has treated the material properly. Just because you're a famous, brilliant writer doesn't mean you'll be fantastic at everything and asking someone like Millar, Pak etc would end up more a mix of some of the most obvious and overdone things because that's all they remember. Most of those guys write fantastic superhero comics because they grew up with the material and love it to bits. I think to do good Transformers you need someone with similar credentials. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 12, 2009 20:55:00 GMT
To be honest I think they are long overdue in starting an ongoing series. The TF readership is a fairly stable core to be honest and unless they are willing to put big names on the book the sales figures aren't going to vary all that much. (I know Maximum Dinobots has had some shipping/distribution problems).
If we get an ongoing then I would ideally like to see something continuing on from the ations/AHM universe. The continual rebooting is ultimately tiresome. The only alternative for them is to pick up from a previous continuity (Marvel, Sunbow or Dreamwave) and none of these options are a starter as far as I can see. While I would love to see a continuation on from Marvel days, the cartoon fanboys couldn't accept it, and the inverse is true if they pick Sunbow. The Dreamwave era is still held up in bankruptcy related shenanigans.
To be honest I would hate to see Mark Millar on the Transformers. He's too much of a name that he would have his own way and much of his work in recent years has needed a firmer editorial hand to rain in the worst excesses of his style. I still hold that his first arc when he took over The Authority was good, but it was downhill after that. His best work has been Red Son and his stint on the Superman:Adventures animated book.
I'd love a writer who has a proven ability to tell a long story and can shift gears as the Transformers needs the big epic stuff but also needs to have tales which are a little more human-centred. Ideally if they could twist his arm and Marvel were willing IDW already have a writer in Peter David who could work wonders with the Transformers.
I think there is every chance that Chris Mowry might be the writer who will work on the title.
The other alternative is that IDW launch an ongoing title based on the Movie continuity and scale back/abandon the universe they have created.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Apr 12, 2009 21:02:25 GMT
I'm more surprised that the multimillion dollar movie franchise hasn't been their primary focus from day one, to be blunt
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 12, 2009 21:07:50 GMT
It's certainly the one I would have picked the minute I had the chance to be honest.
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Apr 12, 2009 22:15:45 GMT
I suppose the reason they didn't do that was because they were worried about clashing with the second film - same reason Titan went into an alternate timeline after just two post-movie issues (which now clash!).
But yeah, thinking about it they should've done an ongoing G1 series yonks ago and then either wound it down or shifted major focus to a new movie-based ongoing.
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Post by grahamthomson on Apr 13, 2009 7:19:47 GMT
Well there's a two year gap, storywise, between the first two films, so that's 24 monthly ongoing issues right there with which to fill with story ideas that won't clash with the timeline. And by the time the third film is out, they'll have reached issue 25 and be free to carry on the story, like, forever. (Unless the plot to Transformers The Musical is also required to fit in.)
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 13, 2009 10:05:21 GMT
The mini-series format was arrived at due to business decisions: ongoing was not viable financially (see most of Ryall's comments when IDW got the licence). So considering the recession, rising prices and the Big Two (Marvel/DC) struggling to get viable new series to last more than a year, an ongoing TF book is a bit of a head scratcher.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Apr 13, 2009 10:44:03 GMT
The mini-series format was arrived at due to business decisions: ongoing was not viable financially (see most of Ryall's comments when IDW got the licence). So considering the recession, rising prices and the Big Two (Marvel/DC) struggling to get viable new series to last more than a year, an ongoing TF book is a bit of a head scratcher. -Ralph IDW seem to be moving to an ongoing model with their licenses now, they're doing the same with Doctor Who too. Though technically the Doctor Who one is plotted as an 18 issue maxiseries, but in the style of an ongoing (and will probably go past that anyway) I am very worried that they look like they'll put on a writer with no experience of writing any lengthy G1 work on the ongoing, but we will see. |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 13, 2009 10:50:41 GMT
Yeah, the Doctor Who ongoing is even more of a barmy idea, considering the licence only covers North America so they can't sell it in the UK where the show is hugely popular. In the US, it's buried away on the pay channel Sci-fi (or whatever it's called this week).
-Ralph
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Apr 13, 2009 10:59:52 GMT
GI Joe is an ongoing too.
I dunno, maybe they found a way to make it viable.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 13, 2009 11:23:40 GMT
GI Joe is ongoing? So far as I could tell it was a random series of n number of mini-series that confused the hell out of me, so I didn't bother with any of them.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Apr 13, 2009 20:05:19 GMT
One day I will find a way to break into comic writing. And then you'll see! You'll all see! :v
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2009 11:52:09 GMT
I read that AHM Coda is setting the scene for the Ongoing, so its a fair bet any future stories will build on the ations/AHM foundations. And quite right too I think. I agree with Andy T that yet another reboot would be tiresome. There's a certain logic in adopting the movie-verse as the core continuity but I'm glad that's not happened because I'm a lot fonder of G1 than I am the movies.
Plus, just because millions of people go and see the film doesn't mean they'd stick with a monthly comic book (if they'd buy it at all). I suspect the vast majority of cinema-goers see the film because its the blockbuster of the moment and once the hype dies down they move on.
By contrast the G1 devotees are still buying Transformers books 25 years later, so G1 effectly has stood/is standing the test of time. The Movie-verse has yet to do that. Admittedly though Titan is doing rather well at keeping its Movie comic going.
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