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Post by The Doctor on Jun 14, 2016 15:24:50 GMT
I did feel that Serenity was the best translation of a tv series to a proper theatrical film that I have seen in terms of keeping the feel of the original but making it work in a cinema by only changing the bits that need to change due to the differering formats. Only some of the Star Trek films come close in that regard, for me.
I was satisfied that Sernity provided enough of a closure to Firefly that I was never bothered that nothing came after it.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 15, 2016 21:43:39 GMT
Firefly was different and unique. It combines two of my favorite things, space and westerns. Great actors, interesting characters, interesting universe. It could and should have run for longer, but Serenity did provide adequate closure as Doc' says.
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Post by Bogatan on Jun 15, 2016 22:00:07 GMT
It did, but....
We're living in the age of relaunching old shows. In the last few years we've had red dwarf, arrested development, veronica mars, the X files, heroes, full house, boy meets world, star wars.
Upcoming are prison break, twin peaks, gilmore girls, star trek and probably a bazillion im forgetting. And thats not including full on reboots.
In this climate firefly seems like the obvious and ultimate revival show.
Plus most of them are available, castle just got axed, torres is apparently taking a smaller role in suits. Whedon has left marvel. Adam baldwin on that last ship show but they do short series and I dont think anyone else is a regular elsewhere except morrena bacarin and even she seemed to disappear towards the end of gotham.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 16, 2016 18:52:09 GMT
I see your point there but I think the thing about the current revivals is that they're all established, successful shows that had followings outside the sci-fi fanbase they were targeted at. They're fondly remembered generally.
Firefly's reputation comes purely from the fanbase it garnered, which might not attract studio execs' attention. It might be an opportunity to use its rep as a springboard to restart it though because the premise seems very in keeping with current trends.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 16, 2016 19:20:53 GMT
I'd love to see it come back. But then again I thought that about Star Wars...
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 24, 2016 19:20:52 GMT
I've finished!
Okay, so having watched the full run this time rather than just the first few episodes I see what people are getting at when they rate this series so highly. I was enjoying it by about the fifth episode, and I could easily have gone a full season by the time I'd got to the end of the TV episodes. I do see the point - I totally understand now what made this so highly regarded.
I do think Whedon was ambitious with the cast. Despite going the Star Trek style ensemble route, there were too many, and the two I'd have ditched were ironically the ones who <spoiler> in the film. I'd have added Jane to that list, but Janestown was a brilliant piece of TV that saved that character. I don't think it could have gone on for long just on the premise it was using - I can't see a multi season show in that idea without some kind of expansion in the wider world, even though the character relationships were nice.
Serenity I thought was a poor end though. Yes it resolved the one overhanging plot from the series and expanded some of the back story, but it was entirely devoid of the humour that made the series endearing. The story was fine, it played like a two part season finale, but in trying to show he could do a big action film, Whedon lost what made the series itself fun.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2016 19:23:14 GMT
Serenity I thought was a poor end though. Yes it resolved the one overhanging plot from the series and expanded some of the back story, but it was entirely devoid of the humour that made the series endearing. The story was fine, it played like a two part season finale, but in trying to show he could do a big action film, Whedon lost what made the series itself fun. Yaaay my brother in arms! I was disappointed in the film. It felt like a long rubbishy episode or a low-key film, not that big or actionally really. Everything was rather pat and given how the show felt more 'realistic', the film was a bit ridiculous in how it neatly wrapped everything up and boiled the complex politics down into 'we will wikileak the government and insta-win'. |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 24, 2016 19:29:44 GMT
I suppose the problem was that in two hours they had to resolve everything - something that could have been played out over an entire season on TV. It felt like Firefly but it was all too serious, which oddly made the few attempts at humour in it feel really out of place.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2016 19:47:17 GMT
I suppose the problem was that in two hours they had to resolve everything - something that could have been played out over an entire season on TV. It felt like Firefly but it was all too serious, which oddly made the few attempts at humour in it feel really out of place. I didn't really think it was something that *needed* to be resolved though :/ |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2016 20:00:11 GMT
Heretic!
You can't stop the signal!
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 24, 2016 20:31:43 GMT
I loved Serenity because after a 2 and a half year wait I got a bit more story and a bit of resolution. I agree with Ralph that it was one of the best tv to movie trasitions, but it still lost some of the series magic. I still think there potential from the end of the movie to get a new series. Set it about 16 years later. Spoiler
The war that was coming at the end of Serenity could be over or not. At some point Zoe has left with her and Washs baby. The series starts with her calling Mal for help and bringing her daughter (because whedon show) on board for the first time since being a baby. Shes her fathers daughter because Wash must be suitably replaced The setup comes pretty naturally from the end of Serenity while also somewhat mirroring the beginning of Firefly and doesnt try pretending the cast hasn't aged. Bonus points if we get some animated films filling in the 16 year gap. |
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