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Post by Benn on Sept 30, 2019 6:36:21 GMT
Yeah, but that's a thing a lot of people do. It's just what happens when you become so well read, that the way you have to write (academically) becomes second nature, so that's how you do all your communicating.
It's a bit like how some nervous people can have a habit of talking really fast, and Blurr is coded as a hyper nervous person. The speech 'defects' for those characters fits in with what we know of their personalities, and as a lingustic shorthand for children to understand.
It's like if people were complaining about Blaster talking in an obnoxious radio DJ voice all the time, which is absolutely not how DJ's talk when they get home. But they don't, because it's part of communicating his bombastic personality to you.
I can understand the criticism for Wheelie and the Junkions, though. It doesn't bother me, but I can see where it might grate on others.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 30, 2019 7:06:01 GMT
Starscream Ironhide Ratchet Thundercracker Skywarp Wheeljack Brawn Windcharger Shrapnel Bombshell Kickback Megatron Optimus Prime Prowl You missed Dirge, Ramjet and Thrust who got eaten in the final battle with Unicron (if you watch carefully). But Shrapnel somehow survived as he appeared on Junk to fight Daniel, thereby establishing that the Movie only killed off characters who spoke English normally. They couldn't bear to lose a character with eccentric speech patterns! Martin
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Post by The Huff on Sept 30, 2019 7:46:42 GMT
As robots, I've always thought Perceptor was the one talking normally as that's how robots should talk. I sometimes miss the way all Transformers (except Jazz it seemed) spoke like Data in the very early comics.
Season 2 of the cartoon had the most comical personality/speech ticks to be fair. I only found the movie cast voices anoying in the episode Chaos when Kup decided to punish the viewers by going to meet Wreck Gar on Goo and thought it a good idea to let Grimlock, Blurr, Wheelie and Sky Lynx tag along. Obviously Warpath, Seaspray and Snarf were busy that day or he'd have asked them too!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 30, 2019 10:12:00 GMT
As a child who loved words I really liked how Perceptor talked using 'big words' I would sometimes have to look up the meaning of. I despair how the language in a lot of current kids media is dumbed down with limited vocabulary.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 30, 2019 15:11:53 GMT
Perc was right on, innit.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 30, 2019 15:23:07 GMT
Perc was right on, innit. He and Highbrow wouldn't bother me except that attention is drawn to how they speak by the exasperated reactions of those around them. So maybe it's not their voices that annoy me so much as the way they are framed to come across as over-cerebral eccentrics. If other characters conversed with them without blinking, it would be fine. Martin
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Post by greebtron on Jan 28, 2020 12:00:15 GMT
Ron Friedman unfortunately seemed to take the position that speech gimmicks = character. While I've only come up with three scripts from the back third of season 2, I take it as read that he was off the series after Make Tracks as the speech gimmicks stopped coming. The only exception was Omega, and he didn't create that, Larry Strauss did.
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Post by Jim on Jun 2, 2020 22:43:49 GMT
Watched with my daughter for the first time this evening. She was understandably pretty bemused by it. Final comment: "That was... old"
BUT
Early on, during the battle for Autobot city she suddenly said "that was cool", so I paused it and asked what was cool, thinking it must be some part of the action, and she responded "that line - 'I've got better things to do tonight than die!' - that's a cool line".
I am so proud.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 3, 2020 5:58:59 GMT
Mine can never see it. They love the cartoon and my '84tastic figures and the deaths, especially of Optimus Prime, would break them. Even the teen wouldn't like it. Very sentimental creatures, they are. So for us, Transformers: The Movie doesn't exist.
No great loss.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 3, 2020 9:36:27 GMT
You can't banish reality, Shockprowl.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 3, 2020 10:22:04 GMT
Only one possible reality, Doctor...
There are many others.
Don't forget- Transformers is OURS...!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 3, 2020 10:59:55 GMT
Movie got erased from reality when Unicron arrived early in 1991, changing the timeline. Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Jun 3, 2020 13:09:42 GMT
HAAA! YEAH! SCREW YOU, DOC'!
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Post by KnightBeat on Jun 3, 2020 13:13:28 GMT
But I have the movie on Blu ray!
*opens box*
Oh good lord!
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Jun 3, 2020 16:22:43 GMT
Yours too??
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 3, 2020 16:40:49 GMT
Mine still exists. As do the multiple copies I have of the Movie on DVD.
-Ralph
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Post by The Huff on Jun 4, 2020 8:02:36 GMT
The evil Unicron has also voided my DVDs out of existence - but not just TF the Movie discs!
He has now moved on to my other TV and film DVDs including Taken, Lost, Missing and The Vanishing. Oh well, at least I have my Gone In 60 Seconds dvd...hey! That one was here a minute a go!!!
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Post by Benn on Jun 4, 2020 12:14:15 GMT
If the movie is going, then what happens to season 3? Or the Japanese series? Or the comics that spiraled out from it?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 4, 2020 12:16:57 GMT
There was a season 3??
Martin
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Post by Stomski on Jun 4, 2020 12:20:28 GMT
There was a movie?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 4, 2020 12:36:02 GMT
Where am I?
Who are all you people??
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 4, 2020 13:32:04 GMT
There is no Dana. Only Zuul.
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Post by Stomski on Jun 4, 2020 14:59:51 GMT
What a wonderful singing voice you must have.
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Post by The Huff on Jun 6, 2020 9:55:06 GMT
Actually, Unicron isn't to blame for erasing the movie - that was all down to Octopunch.
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 6, 2020 12:48:22 GMT
I was thinking this morning while idling away time in the queue to get into Waitrose, that in the UK, Target 2006 acted as a kind of cushion to the events of the film. By the time we got the movie here at Christmas, we'd already been reading months of stories about most of the movie cast and Optimus and Megatron were temporarily out of the picture anyway. So when it came and that switch happened after the Battle of Autobot City, it wasn't like we were being thrust into a new world quite as dramatically as the kids in America were, where there hadn't been anything to support the big shift. If you went from Season 2 of the cartoon straight into the film it really would be a blow, but here we were on a different path all the way.
I'm pretty sure I knew Prime died by the time I saw the film, maybe though reading the American movie adaptation although I'm sure I'd have been spoiler avoiding even then. I still remember the moment in the cinema in town (which is a block of flats these days), but I remember being braced for it and suckered in, despite the fact that in terms of comic continuity Prime wasn't dead at all. I also remember at the time assuming none of the other characters had actually died, because they never did. It was only later that I realised that was supposed to be their exits.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 6, 2020 13:06:12 GMT
Round our way we had all read the comic adaptation before seeing the film. Toy tech-specs in toyshop first, Target: 2006 second, comic adaptation special third, actual movie fourth - or possibly fifth, I can't remember when we got the Ladybird book.
Martin
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Post by The Huff on Jun 6, 2020 16:06:45 GMT
I also believed that was why it was set in the future as it was more like 'this is how Prime will die' rather than 'he's dead now and you won't see him again.'
Sort of teaching kids to appreciate their elders because one day they won't be around anymore.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 6, 2020 16:38:19 GMT
Ladybird book I never saw until after the movie, so quite possibly into 1987 before that dropped, in my neck of the woods at least.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 7, 2020 17:44:50 GMT
I was unaware the Microsoft Store had TFTM available to buy as a digital download...
I did my duty.
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Post by Benn on Nov 7, 2020 17:50:11 GMT
A quick check says it's on the Google Play store as well, but you can't buy or rent it. Odd.
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