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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Nov 17, 2007 15:44:51 GMT
The BM season 2 boxed set arrived today. Once again, it's the episodes and nowt else, but for £8 you can't complain. But can anyone explain why there are Beast Wars pictures on the back of the DVD boxes?
Here's hoping for a full BW DVD release... Hey, it might happen.
Mx
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 17, 2007 20:07:23 GMT
Oh I'm glad this is out and about, I'm comming to a close with season 1, really enjoying it. Great value, think I payed 'bout 8ish squid from Morereasons. Where did you get your season 2 from old chap?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 17, 2007 21:27:43 GMT
Asda, Play and SendIt are alla round the same price. 's out Monday so I'm guessing onew of the above are responsible.
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 17, 2007 22:50:19 GMT
Excellant! Mrs Shockprowl will be pleased!
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Nov 18, 2007 12:40:01 GMT
'Twas indeed Play.com
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Post by Gav on Nov 19, 2007 8:23:09 GMT
Ooooooh! I'll be getting this. I really enjoyed the first series, despite its reputation.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 19, 2007 14:53:04 GMT
Following a certain infamous Hubday, I can never think of this series without imagining Tankor shouting "FASTAHHHHHHHHHH!" Well that and Cullen's tales of sweetcorn.
-Ralph
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Post by andrewcrane on Nov 20, 2007 18:55:06 GMT
Can't wait for season/series 2 top pop through the letterbox tomorrow AM  Haven't seen that since 2001 when the now-defunct Fox Kids channel aired it. Be interested to re-assess it, particularly as we've had nothing near as good since. |
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Post by KoshNaranek on Nov 21, 2007 2:08:47 GMT
I picked mine up from HMV in Dublin while I was there at the weekend. Hopefully I'll get to sit in and watch a few of the episodes tomorrow night. I'm not exactly 100% happy with the series and still have reservations with how it ended, but it was much better than anything since then. Marc can correct me if I'm wrong here, but at BotCon 2005 at the voice actors panel, one of the guests said that they now refer to it as "the bad thing" which seems a lttle unfair.
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Post by Gav on Nov 21, 2007 7:00:04 GMT
All this Beast Machines nostalgia led me to watching the last few episodes of season 1 last night.
I really enjoyed it! Especially when Waspinator is re-awakened. Looking forward to seeing Season 2 sometime this week.
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Post by Gav on Nov 27, 2007 8:01:15 GMT
Okay, since my last post Beast Machines discussion has been hot hot hot!
I finished season 2 last night. Even the Missus was engaged in it! The ending was a cheese-fest of epic proportions but enjoyable. Some nice twists and turns throughout the series and i'm pretty happy with it. Now, to import the Beast Wars sets!
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2007 10:07:57 GMT
Make sure you go for the Aussie sets, they have a whole bunch of extras and non-rubbish packaging!
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Post by Gav on Nov 27, 2007 11:14:25 GMT
Thanks for the tip! I'd have ended up with some stinkers!
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Post by andrewcrane on Nov 27, 2007 11:50:37 GMT
Looks great in 480p. If you take into account it's visually stylised, it's arguably the nicest-looking Transformers series.
The big problem I have with series one though is that it could be easily edited into six or seven much tighter episodes...
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 14, 2008 19:36:40 GMT
I saw the S1 Boxset and was too weak not to buy it!
Seen the first two eps and enjoyed it more than I was expecting - since I know in advance about all the contraversial bits, I can get onto enjoying the heroes on the run, meditating Primal and big explosions. Also, Rattrap being his awesome Rattrappy self and his reaction to not being able to transform.
The Maximal designs are ugly (how does robot-mode Cheetor not fall over?!) and Megatron's sudden change in motive & personality does grate though.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 14, 2008 23:01:19 GMT
Egads, no! Now Nightscream's in it!  Also annoyed with "The Weak Component". It's a strong episode that does a lot with Rattrap, but I find it slighty iffy that he's going to guard Megatron when the guy was that easy a target - Rattrap fights dirty. But okay, I can live with it... but Megatron keep his word? Leave it out! |
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Post by Gav on Jan 15, 2008 8:48:39 GMT
I've never gotten the whole 'hating Nightscream' thing. He's not the best character ever, but he didn't grate on me as much as i was expecting.
Rattrap's robot mode though...eurgh.
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Post by grahamthomson on Jan 15, 2008 17:41:29 GMT
Nightscream becomes a lot more annoying by the second season.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 16, 2008 10:28:03 GMT
Up to the Rhinox-is-Tankorr bit and while I like the bit where Optimus steps in to stop them forcibly reprogramming him... it's Rhinox. Him supporting Megatron only makes sense if his Spark actually has been corrupted by the Tankorr shell-program. (Which IIRC is the general 'fanon' explanation)
I do like the misdirection with Silverbolt-is-Thrust! when I know in advance it's Waspy. That's very interesting, that the Vehicon that fights past his Spark to save Blackarachnia and accesses his memories first is Waspinator and her One True Love is the one happily ripping her Spark out. This says interesting things about Waspinator...
And Optimus' "we must restore nature!" makes me cackle as I've read Graham's fics and "know" what nature that is...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 16, 2008 12:00:48 GMT
I loved the misdirection involved with Thrust's identity and the payoff was absolutely splendid.
As I've banged on repeatedly I think the Rhinox/Tankorr thing was a good idea badly handled. His betrayal should have been the S1 cliffhanger.
Andy
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Post by legios on Jan 16, 2008 12:51:43 GMT
I loved the misdirection involved with Thrust's identity and the payoff was absolutely splendid. As I've banged on repeatedly I think the Rhinox/Tankorr thing was a good idea badly handled. His betrayal should have been the S1 cliffhanger. Andy The Thrust thing was a lot of fun and was really rather well executed. The Tankor-as-Rhinox thing was something that I thought was a really good idea, and does actually make sense to me. It feels like he has been pushed by the events of Beast Wars more and more towards the realisation that whilst there are individual maximals/predacons there is likely to be war, and that making sure that there isn't another war has "hollowed him out" psychologically. As if he has become so monomaniacally committed to that goal that he has lost sight not only of the fact that his methods have become corrupted but also of the reasons he wanted to achieve that in the first place. The whole thing with Primal wanting to "bring back nature" by destroying the technological is a plot element I really like - especially because it is obvious to the audience fairly early on that he is as fanatical and uncompromising as Megatron. Having both leaders as bad as each other in their own ways in the first half of the story is an interesting depature. I do agree that "Weak Component" is flawed in that Rattrap seems more likely to think, "Megatron is napping, I can whack him and take his stuff", but I think it just about works in the context of the episode. Megatron's behaviour I have always put down to him being just a little bit crazy. Karl |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 16, 2008 13:08:37 GMT
Megatron's behaviour I have always put down to him being just a little bit crazy. I still say Megatron should've immediately gone "nope!" and had his men shoot at the Maximals while he laughed. Ahhh, Beast Wars Megs... |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 16, 2008 15:21:09 GMT
Up to ep 12 - awww, poor Waspinator! Loving Tankorr's scheming: "...driving you mad, leaving you with an empty Spark so I can take over!" Drone: "...driving you mad-" "What, no don't say that!" |
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Post by legios on Jan 16, 2008 18:16:15 GMT
Up to ep 12 - awww, poor Waspinator! Loving Tankorr's scheming: "...driving you mad, leaving you with an empty Spark so I can take over!" Drone: "...driving you mad-" "What, no don't say that!" Diagnostic Drone is one of my favourite parts of the show. He's like an evil Alfred the Butler, and despite not having much of a defined face or body he is wonderfully expressive. Karl |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 16, 2008 23:32:34 GMT
"FASTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2008 17:46:56 GMT
Can't wait to see the episode,"Hard soil."
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 17, 2008 23:01:11 GMT
All this talk of BM made me dig out the boxed set and put on the first ep last night. Still looks great and was very enjoyable.
Andy
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 19, 2008 16:20:08 GMT
"Noble is Megatron!" is probably the most obvious twist of the entire Beast Era...
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Post by legios on Jan 19, 2008 22:27:17 GMT
"Noble is Megatron!" is probably the most obvious twist of the entire Beast Era... It is fairly heavily telegraphed. What I do like though is the fact that most of the Maximal's are at least somewhat suspicious of Noble - with the exception of Nightscream (who has a need to form a genuine friendship with someone, anyone at this stage) and Primal (who has swung back to the "too-honourable for his own good" at this stage). Although it is a fairly heavily telegraphed development I think they got away with it because they played straight and let the audience in on it - letting us know there was something sinister about Noble with information that the characters in the show weren't entirely privy to. If they'd tried to hide it from the audience and then spring it as a "Surprise - Noble is a baddy" I don't think it would have worked so well. Karl |
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Jan 20, 2008 15:15:07 GMT
Megatron seems to be getting more BW-like as Season 2 goes on. Botanica's confusing me though - this prominent a character, on a Mainframe TF show, and she's not a toy nor ever expected to be? I like the character and all, but surely it would've made more sense to have her as an existing BM Maximal figure?
And I don't like the Rattrap/Botanica set-up, that's just groan-inducing. "They disliked each other - because they secretly love each other!" Bugger that (though it would bring up questions about Rattrap's true views on Dinobot and Blackarachnia...).
Thrust is brilliant.
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Haven't seen that since 2001 when the now-defunct Fox Kids channel aired it. Be interested to re-assess it, particularly as we've had nothing near as good since.
