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Post by Jim on Apr 22, 2012 22:17:10 GMT
Give it a go! I am two seasons in and find it quite enjoyable, a lot more than I expected.
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2012 17:15:28 GMT
Is it better than the movie? That was atrocious, and I had to sacrifice four fine ales to get through it.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 23, 2012 18:42:30 GMT
Meanwhile I have been watching Red Letter Media's very entertaining demolition of the films. This is an especially good bit:
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Apr 23, 2012 23:06:07 GMT
Is it better than the movie? That was atrocious, and I had to sacrifice four fine ales to get through it. It is, mostly. I admit it can be a bit variable, but when it's good it can be very, very good, and the overall level of quality does rise. I particularly enjoyed the Mandalorian trilogy in s2 (for Whose Line fans, a key character is voice by Greg Proops!). The thing about the movie is that it's actually 3 episodes which Lucas decided could be stitched together, and so was never really written for that length or format. It's still not great even taking that into account, but I think the production team deserves some benefit of the doubt. I'm also becoming a big Ahsoka fan - on paper she should be the most annoying character in all of Star Wars, Anakin's feisty teenage sidekick, but she really works. I like the unique way she uses a light sabre (there are quite a few nice little touches like this in CW) and she noticeably matures as the series goes on. I am quite nervous about her fate. Also, in the last few episodes I saw a dour Scottish[-accented] admiral is introduced. He's great! |
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Post by blueshift on Apr 23, 2012 23:29:30 GMT
Meanwhile I have been watching Red Letter Media's very entertaining demolition of the films. This is an especially good bit: I told you they were good reviews! |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 24, 2012 7:49:09 GMT
Oh, I had seen them before, but required their joy again after the weekend's Prequel torment.
RE: Ashoka. I am less inclined to check out the CG show if she is a major character. She annoyed the fuck out of me in the movie in a way no other SW character has.
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Apr 24, 2012 9:43:48 GMT
She gets much better than she was in the movie, but she is a kind of divisive character and it does depend a bit on how the writers use her - she has had her share of annoying rookie moments. She has a really nicely done, if brief, duel with General Grievous in one episode.
She certainly isn't the focus of the series, anyway - there're plenty of episodes she doesn't appear in at all.
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Post by Stomski on Apr 24, 2012 13:05:13 GMT
(for Whose Line fans, a key character is voice by Greg Proops!). Greg Proops also voiced the English speaking head of the pod-race commentator in Phantom Menace. |
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 24, 2012 18:56:26 GMT
She gets much better than she was in the movie, but she is a kind of divisive character and it does depend a bit on how the writers use her - she has had her share of annoying rookie moments. She has a really nicely done, if brief, duel with General Grievous in one episode. She certainly isn't the focus of the series, anyway - there're plenty of episodes she doesn't appear in at all. Mmmm. Well it is Star Wars I have not seen and the s1 boxset is a reasonable price. I would like to re-watch the cel-animated Clone Wars first though. I generally enjoyed that but the DVD's seem to be out of print. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 24, 2012 19:31:13 GMT
Mmmm. Well it is Star Wars I have not seen and the s1 boxset is a reasonable price. I would like to re-watch the cel-animated Clone Wars first though. I generally enjoyed that but the DVD's seem to be out of print. -Ralph Do you want a loan? as well as the Blake's 7? |
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Post by The Doctor on May 7, 2012 17:48:19 GMT
I would not say no.
In other news, I have been swithering on giving the CG Clone Wars box set a try as the movie was so bad. But Sainsburys had the first two single discs in a '2 for a fiver' bin so grabbed them to try it as cheaply as possible.
-Ralph
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Post by Dave on May 9, 2012 10:07:18 GMT
I love reading about the making of the Clone Wars show but I'm not really a fan of it and from what I've sampled I've never been tempted to seek out the whole thing. There have been some good stuff though and I will say I haven't had any problems with Ahsoka.
In related news I had a mad moment and there is now a copy of The Clone Wars movie on its way to me.
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Post by Jim on May 9, 2012 11:13:17 GMT
My s3 DVD arrived on Friday and I'm genuinely looking forward to getting into it (especially as my current watching is DS9 s7 which five episodes in is turning out to be a bit of a slog).
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Post by The Doctor on May 9, 2012 17:45:13 GMT
In related news I had a mad moment and there is now a copy of The Clone Wars movie on its way to me. I had a similar mad moment earlier this week... -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on May 11, 2012 20:47:30 GMT
It has now been watched. Surprisingly, it was not as bad as I remembered it being. It's nothing brilliant, but it holds up far better for me than the live-action prequels.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on May 22, 2012 19:22:58 GMT
The first disc, featuring the next four episodes has been watched. Bit of a mixed bag. Sometimes it was dull, sometimes it suffered from Prequelitus (over-long, over-elaborate action scenes that go and on and on without furthering the plot) and sometimes I quite enjoyed it and thought it was fun. It even made the battle droids briefly an actual threat though generally they are over-used and giving them personalities just makes the Jedi's look like mass murders who cut them down without offering them a chance to surrender.
Generally, though, it's ok. Decently made, above average kiddy cartoon fare. It does help that Anakin has a completely different personality from the films, but every scene with the character who is his Padawan learner put my teeth on edge. I think if I was 8 I would love the show though (considering that young Ralph loved the Ewoks cartoon for his Star Wars fix).
I have another disc to watch at some point.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jun 11, 2012 19:48:09 GMT
I've been working my way through the first two single disc releases of Clone Wars, and a few episodes on my laser-tv providers tv on-demand offering over the last couple of weeks. I think overall it is a little bit better than I expected. The first two discs are a little bit hit-and-miss. I know it is a war show but sometimes it does seem that we are having battles just for the sake of them. And also, Battle Droids remain excellent for comedy relief, but completely unconvincing as an actual threat which somewhat lessens the tension...
I am inclined to think that there is probably more characterisation of a lot of the prequel characters in the spin-off show than there actually was in the movies. Anakin gets to be a dangerously impulsive risk-taker rather than a creepy stalker, and Padme actually gets to have agency and do things, something that was progressively less and less apparent in the prequels.
I'm not sure that it is a show I would spend actually money to buy, because the likelihood is that it'll be a watch once, but it is certainly far more watchable than "Attack of the Clones" and I can see myself putting some more of it in the rental queue to watch in due course.
(Almost forgot - I love the newsreel style voice-overs for the "previously on" sections, it gives it a nice sense of their being a bonkers narrator on hand and it has been too long since we had a show with one of those.)
Karl
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Post by Jim on Jun 12, 2012 9:10:53 GMT
I like the newsreel voice-overs as well; they're a great way of getting the background in quickly so the short episodes can concentrate on the action and more interesting and fun than the usual "Previously" or having a classic Star Wars Crawl every time.
I am one disc into season 3; to be honest it's been a bit slow but with a few highlights. The battle droids show how they can actually be quite dangerous in sufficient numbers in one episode (I won't spoil it, but there's a scene which made me a bit sad).
I may be ever-so-slightly in love with Duchess Satine. That said, the Mandalorian episodes aren't as strong as those in season 2.
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 12, 2012 16:43:19 GMT
The newsreel voice-overs can go fuck off to a ditch and die. I hate them. I hate that dumbed down way of delivering exposition/backstory in any show/film. Sets my teeth on edge. I'd rather shove my arse down a baboons bum than witness any more of that utter lowest common denominator low-attention span shite! Instant fast-forward fodder.
And tonally they belong to some other universe entirely. It would be like watching episodes of Coronation St introduced by a troop of mime artists.
The rest of the show proper is ok, though. I don't mind it too much.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Jun 12, 2012 20:16:03 GMT
It has occured to me whilst finishing up the second disc of this that it almost feels like animated version of the Clone Wars is taking place in a different universe to the movies. In the series we see Battle Droids with different personalities and a tendency to interact with each other, rather than just being mindless cannon fodder, likewise the Clone Troopers are treated as if they are actual people - whereas the films tended to treat them more like robots who happened to be made out of flesh-and-blood.
It creates a bit of cognitive dissonance when you watch Clone Troopers making friends with aliens, and being praised for their heroism and realise that these same Clone Troopers are going to turn around a few years later and shoot a bunch of not-yet-jedi children and start jackbootedly oppressing the aliens they are trying so hard to free. It is just an odd thought that I can't shake whilst watching the episodes.
I don't have a problem with the newsreel voice-overs, for me the idea of Star Wars - whose roots are in the old movie-serials - borrowing from the newsreels that they used to run after seems oddly appropriate.
What is bugging me is folks hair. Yes, hair is not usually animated to move in most shots in animated shows. But the design style of Clone Wars makes it really obvious that everyone just has hair shapes carved out of the their skull. It is something I can't stop noticing.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 7, 2012 19:56:40 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Aug 13, 2012 17:49:15 GMT
Cheers for that link, that was definitely worth the £1.30 |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 31, 2012 8:07:51 GMT
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Post by Jim on Oct 31, 2012 16:33:15 GMT
Any implications for Dark Horse in all this, given Disney's ownership of Marvel?
A shake up of the comics might be quite good, though I did quite enjoy the Ostrander / Duursema Dawn of the Jedi mini this year.
On the movie front, people on Twitter seem to be jumping on the idea of a Brad Bird Star Wars. I could get behind that.
-Jim
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 31, 2012 16:56:39 GMT
Given what happened with Boom Studios and the Muppets license - Marvel will get their hands on Star Wars before this new film comes out.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 30, 2012 8:06:13 GMT
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Post by legios on Nov 30, 2012 22:23:25 GMT
Seconded. That has amused me this evening.
Karl
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 1, 2012 14:01:51 GMT
Wow. So full of shit.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 7, 2012 23:30:30 GMT
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Post by jameso on Dec 8, 2012 3:24:10 GMT
Pretty sure it's real.
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