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Post by The Doctor on Nov 7, 2009 21:49:25 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2009 23:54:21 GMT
I've already ordered this from Steve Bax but reading that preview I'm beginning to wonder why. The first two or three pages is littered with the phrase 'it is believed...' and so I will say just this: 'it is believed that Shame McCarthy had a hand in writing this!'
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Nov 8, 2009 0:39:43 GMT
"It is believed" that Megatron Origin happened? No it's not, we saw it happen and Prowl, Ironhide, Jazz etc WERE THERE. And what's this about the Seekers being "noble" and giving legitimacy? They didn't appear to be noble in the series, and where did they give legitimacy?
"The precise time and incident that sparked the Great War is no longer known for sure"? You just said Megatron killed Sentinel Prime! That'd be an incident even if you haven't left out that he violently captured a city and the army retreated. That would be an unarguably incident and time!
"It is widely believed that one such soldier - Optimus - would later become leader of the Autobots" - records no longer exist of THAT? He was the leader for bloody thousands of years! Loads of still-living Autobots remember it!
What Thunderwing planned to do was a mystery?! No it wasn't, both sides know Bludgeon was throwing him at planets!
My god, this is even more useless than I thought it would be.
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Post by dinogrrl on Nov 8, 2009 1:06:29 GMT
Wow, that's shittily written. I'm thinking its Schmidt who wrote it, but the ever repetitive 'It is believed' stuff should have been edited out, fer chrissakes.
And the bit about Optimus' rise to leadership being an unknown mystery is a total WTF.
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Post by blueshift on Nov 8, 2009 1:19:27 GMT
Yes, the Optimus bit is baffling, since we see pre-Prime Optimus in Spotlight:Blurr, and half the current cast are running about in it!
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 8, 2009 8:04:30 GMT
This pretty well highlights my pet peeve with the whole war in most continuities millions of years is stupid long unless its a multi-multi-multi-generational war. I like the whole beginnings of the war being lost in time, but it only works if the original combatants have long since been killed. Some other character should have started the war and killed the high council and then a long time later Prime and Megatron emerge.
If the wars starts with Megatron having it start more than 10,000 years ago just doesn't work.
In this case I take it this story is meant to be being told thousands (well millions, no tens of millions) of years in the future when the wars starters are long dead and the record have been lost. Fine if it allows new comers to slip over whatever continuity balls ups have been commited.
But instead of the "It is believed..." maybe they could just have some sort of introduction stating it is set long after the war is over and that there are gaps in the history.
Still I might buy it so I can skip AHM and move straight on to the ongoing.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 8, 2009 11:03:07 GMT
Useless crap. Pish prose, like an under-heated Robot Wars feature but with much less text. Looks like one of those freeby Saga things Marvel give out. Not paying money for that.
More money saved!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Nov 8, 2009 11:42:20 GMT
Yeah, this seems to be a cheaply-made catchup for those coming to the new ongoing. Personally, I think it is a good idea if it helps get more readers, comic companies should do that more.
And we're not the target audience, the target audience are the people who've never picked up a TF comic before
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 8, 2009 12:03:49 GMT
Agreed, but I've read some of the very similar Marvel Saga catch-ups and they've been such insipid reads they put me off series I had been thinking of picking up, ie New Mutants.
And I don't see many people forking out cash for a summary of a series they've never read. Such things should be promo freebies or text back-up features in the actual comics themselves.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2009 14:50:59 GMT
Not a wise move from IDW by all accounts then! Lets just hope that they can still produce anything worthwhile with Last Stand of the Wreckers and the Bumblebee mini.
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Post by legios on Nov 8, 2009 17:01:33 GMT
And we're not the target audience, the target audience are the people who've never picked up a TF comic before And possibly will be less likely to pick up another one after reading this. It doesn't really compare favourably alongside what it is likely to be sharing shelf space with in all honesty. I can't see it making the average reader add the ongoing series to their pull list. Ah well. Saves me a few quid I can put aside for "Last stand of the Wreckers" at any rate. Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 8, 2009 17:40:30 GMT
I think its more likely for people who try out the ongoing series and have not read any IDW before (or not for a long time) get lost, rather than something people will pick up before they start reading the ongoing. I expect it will be heavilly plugged for the first few issues.
Speaking as someone who is about 18 months behind on the IDW TF series, however pants this is, if I find the ongoing to confusing I will likely buy it just to fill the AHM gap. I know I could go online to find out what happened but in 1 or 5 or 10 years time if Im rereading its just easier to have the reference book on hand.
However I look at it, it's cheaper and probably more fun than buying AHM especially when I'll get most of that in the UK comic eventually.
Andy
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Post by dinogrrl on Nov 10, 2009 1:15:55 GMT
Here's another preview page: www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0911/08/transformerscontinuum16.htmThey misspell Bludgeon as 'Bludegeon', after getting it right four other times. Also, I haven't read the whole Stormbringer bit for a while, but didn't the Autobots have their fight with Thunderwing on Cybertron, not Nebulos? Did their janitor write this for them after hours?
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 10, 2009 8:39:26 GMT
Yeah the fight was on Cybertron, Nebulos was attacked in the series. That is one seriously shitty book.
Andy
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Post by Benn on Nov 10, 2009 10:08:37 GMT
Regarding the mis-spelled Bludgeon, what makes it particularly funny is that it's spelled correctly directly above the mis-spell. I could proof-read better than that, and I'm dsylexic.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2009 10:55:26 GMT
And 'Cybertron' is 'Cyberton'. Clearly the IDW stuff now takes place in the Star Dub universe.
I can't believe IDW are charging money for this.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 10, 2009 11:09:35 GMT
I can. Remember Focus on Decepticons.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2009 11:14:10 GMT
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! And I bought that sight unseen. It was so bad I decided not to buy the series it was plugging (AHM).
Take note publishers, shitty preview editions can lose you business.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 10, 2009 11:27:55 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 10, 2009 11:33:13 GMT
You would have thought they'd have learned after the criticisms of Focus on Decepticons.
Obviously not.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2009 11:50:24 GMT
Oh dear.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 12:48:54 GMT
That's a really damning review you've found there Graham. Coupled with the thoughts in this thread Continuum is probably the worst single issue TF book that IDW have made.
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 10, 2009 13:31:50 GMT
The daft thing is a printed collection of TFWiki's IDW pages would have made a more useful "ultimate" guide to their Story So Far.
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Post by Dave on Nov 10, 2009 17:24:52 GMT
Hmmm. Doesn't sound too good. Worst part is I've got a copy on order (seemed like a good idea at the time).
The bit that stands out for me in that review is "IDW had an opportunity here to set the record straight on their continuity, Continuum makes one wonder if even they understand it." AHM ballsed some things up then the extra issues featured errors. You would have thought when it came to writing Continuum they would have read what came before to avoid making more mistakes.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 10, 2009 17:44:08 GMT
IIRC it's written by the editor of Transformers.
-Ralph
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 18:35:34 GMT
IDW should sack the editor then!
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Nov 10, 2009 18:54:09 GMT
IIRC it's written by the editor of Transformers. Defcon One!
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Post by dinogrrl on Nov 11, 2009 3:15:22 GMT
They just hired the silly bugger to help them out 'cause they were understaffed. Either he stinks out loud or they need to hire further personnel because there's no excuse for this poor level of proofing and fact checking.
And to think he wrote a reasonably fun little story in Spotlight Metroplex, must have been a fluke, seeing as his Galvatron story was bloody terrible and now this.
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 11, 2009 14:43:43 GMT
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Post by KoshNaranek on Nov 11, 2009 15:01:16 GMT
Yup, that says it all.
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