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Post by The Doctor on Jan 22, 2010 22:14:40 GMT
Do you know what just occurred to me? Using Pirranacon's (sorry, I'm using the comic's spelling) fists and any one Seacon's weapon, you could make ANY Special Team's limb a weapon. This realisation is 22 years late, granted, but that's just how slow my mind works. I never realised that either. Until now. -Ralph |
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Post by grahamthomson on Jan 23, 2010 16:49:58 GMT
Do you have the means to try it at home?
My Bruticus is now armed with Drag Strip and Breakdown. Superion's in for a shock when he gets back from the library!
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Post by Nigel on Jan 23, 2010 17:53:22 GMT
I haven't got Piranacon's hands to try it.  I think Special Teams marked a change in the Transformers brand, as they were the first step away from the core concept of robots in disguise and towards the gimmicks that followed annually. True, there had previously been combiners (Devastator and Reflector) but they hadn't really been treated any differently to the rest of the range. The Special Teams were the first "event" and marketed as something new and different. In the same year, of course, we also had the move away from realistic vehicles. |
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 24, 2010 20:53:45 GMT
Okay if Soundwave is Onslaught then Scattershot would fill the Megatron or galvatron slot. I have different ideas for the cassettes.
The Audiocons
Soundwave - Onslaught
Overkill - Rippersnapper
Laserbeak - Cutthroat
Ravage - sinnertwin
Frenzy or Beastbox - Blot
The Decepticons
Megatron or Galvatron - Scattershot
Cyclonus - Strafe
Starscream plus 2 jets - three of Superions limbs
The Autobots
Prime - Motormaster
Mirage - Dragstrip
Sideswipe/Sunstreaker - Breakdown
Jazz or Bumblebee - the other two
The Protectorbots
Inferno - Hotspot
Prowl - Streetwise
Twintwist - Nosecone
Ratchet - First Aid
Springer - Blades
The Oddbots
Sludge - Hungrr
Jetfire - the remaining superion limb
Hound- Swindle
Wreck Gar - Afterburner
Hot Rod - Lightspeed
The leftovercons
- Silverbolt Well maybe this should be jetfire
Astrotrain - Blast Off
Blitzwing - Brawl
- Groove
- Blades
The seacons just dont work as earlier characters do they. Unless the Dinobots had to go underwater for some reason. Or maybe the Insecticons.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 24, 2010 21:04:28 GMT
not really know.
we've done this topic and not gone anywhere near why the planes are Autobots not Decepticons an why the Truck & Cars are Decepticons not Autobots as was the traditional dividng line in the toy range at the time.
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 24, 2010 21:17:16 GMT
I always thought of it as Hasbro balancing the sides. When the line launched it probably made sense to each side as distinct as possible. By 86/87 every kid knew about Autobots and Decepticons and the symbols each side wore.
From a fiction point of view once Autobots need air support and the decepticons need ground support so it makes sense for the reinforcements to fill the gaps.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 24, 2010 21:21:46 GMT
Easy answer: The Autobots were short on air power and so built jets, the Decepticons were short on vehicle disguises that could blend in on Earth and so built cars.[/quote]
Actually when you think about it the division was broken before then.
The first year establishes the UAtobots as road vehicles, and the Decepticons as Planes, Cassettes and Animals.
The problem is when we come to the second year is that there are no new casettes. So no new carded Decepticon toys. Easy answer - make the Constructicons - they build things so they aught to be good guys - into Decepticons and shove something that aught to be Decepticon to the Autobot side like say ..... Dinosaurs. After all kids love Dinosaurs so they'll go for Dinosaur robots lets make them the good guys.
Or something like that.
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Post by Nigel on Jan 25, 2010 13:32:25 GMT
Let's stick with combiners for this week: MICROMASTER COMBINERS.
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Post by blueshift on Jan 25, 2010 13:36:53 GMT
The six-team combiners or the ones that combined in vehicle mode like Connectables?
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Post by Nigel on Jan 25, 2010 13:44:59 GMT
Good point. Allow me to re-capitalise; that should clear it up: Micromaster Combiners.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jan 25, 2010 18:13:32 GMT
Robots that each turned into half a vehicle. Completely useless unless they stay with their partner all the time. I bet they were dead envious of normal Micros.
And if your pal got killed, you were well and truly screwed.
Bizarre designs from a story perspective.
Martin
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Post by blueshift on Jan 25, 2010 18:17:47 GMT
Aha no, for they could swap and change and be a million combinations! A tank-plane? You got it!
I think they missed a trick by only having connectors on one side though. We could have had huge Micromaster trains!
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Post by Nigel on Jan 25, 2010 18:28:02 GMT
Can anyone remember if Connectables came out before Micromaster Combiners? I sort of half remember that they did. I assume that they were Hasbro's response to Connectables, in the same way that Micromasters were a response to Micro Machines. If the Combiners came first, I wonder how/why Hasbro came up with the idea, because they do seem to defeat the object of Micromasters a bit. "We've made all our Transformers really small - let's make them twice as big!"
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Post by blueshift on Jan 25, 2010 18:48:46 GMT
I believe Connectables came first, they were definately the same timeframe. For those who have not yet witnessed the glory of Connectables, I have some pics on my site. Including the box my mum made for me! www.redshirt.co.uk/toys/collectible-connectables/ |
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 25, 2010 20:15:58 GMT
I just read your Thomas and Friend Combiner. fantastic, I can so imagine a Ringo Starr voiced train bot battling Devastator.
Also I now want to find a little Fat Controller mask for Megatron. Then more masks for others.
Andy
(This post is officially almost on topic)
Edit: OMG!!!!!! OMG,OMG,OMG!!! theres a James-Octane hybrid.
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Post by blueshift on Jan 25, 2010 20:17:17 GMT
I just read your Thomas and Friend Combiner. fantastic, I can so imagine a Ringo Starr voiced train bot battling Devastator. He has since taken a lethal tumble off a shelf |
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 25, 2010 20:24:40 GMT
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Andy (Now officially off topic) |
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 26, 2010 8:04:49 GMT
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 27, 2010 19:34:10 GMT
He will rise again!!! He has too!!!!!
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Post by Nigel on Jan 28, 2010 16:00:44 GMT
Send for Harold to carry him to safety!
(What thread are we in , again?)
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 28, 2010 19:35:29 GMT
I want a repaint of Unicron as the Fat Controller!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 28, 2010 19:50:55 GMT
I want a repaint of Unicron as the Fat Controller!!! -Ralph GENIOUS!!!!! |
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 28, 2010 19:55:10 GMT
It would have to be the original 86 tubby Unicron.
Andy
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Post by Nigel on Feb 1, 2010 17:40:16 GMT
This week, the Wuzzles of the '90s: FUZORS.
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Post by blueshift on Feb 1, 2010 17:54:04 GMT
This will probably be unpopular, but I don't actually like the Fuzors. Part of the idea is decent, as a way to make interesting new animals, but it is pretty much wasted on creatures either too baffling (injector) or that look like normal animals anyway (Bantor, Skyshadow)
Maybe it is more the wasted potential of the idea. Silverbolt is easily the best, because the winged wolf looks really iconic and mythological rather than just two things slapped together.
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 1, 2010 18:19:33 GMT
Silverbolt is very nice. I also really like Quickstrike, it's fantastically flexible and the animal combination is clever, imaginative and functional. Airhammer is also pretty decent.
On the whole the basics seemed to work better on most levels than the deluxes.
Oh and Buzzclaw, for some reason i forget its a fuzor, it's one of my favourite TF's ever.
The deluxes, even Silverbolt, are lacking a bit. Silverbolts basic concept saves the toy for me, but the robot mode is a bit limited.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 1, 2010 18:27:51 GMT
Micromaster Combiners are a bit like Fuzors... front half of one thing, back half of the other!
Martin
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Post by grahamthomson on Feb 8, 2010 10:43:08 GMT
This week: BEAST WARS BASICS (e.g. Rattrap, Razorbeast, Terrorsaur, et al.) from 1996.
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 8, 2010 11:51:30 GMT
Best Transformers of all time. The first full line of highly articulated figures. Effective flipchange, hidden proper weapons, detailed sculpts, whats not to love?
I am glad they dropped the flipchange after the first wave, as it did limit the variaty of transformations, but it was great fun especially for Terrorsaur. Swooping out of the sky and transforming in mid air was something I'd wanted to be able to do with every flying transformer for 10 years, but always had to stop transform and continue. So when I got Terrorsaur I thought it was great.
Rattrap, Razorbeast, Insecticon, Terrorsaur and Clawjaw are probably my favourite moulds from the full 26 years of toys, Buzzclaw too. And in Fractyl, Packrat, TM Clawjaw and Ikard four of the best repaints of all time.
It was this line that confirmed me as a supporter of smaller toys being better which I still believe even if the new movie scouts haven't excited me much there was still ejector and Scalpel.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 8, 2010 12:33:57 GMT
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