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Post by The Doctor on Feb 2, 2010 12:01:36 GMT
I always feel it's important to be polite and clear with criticism when you know the odds are high that the creators of the product you are commenting on will read your comment.
I can't comment on the IDW boards as I stopped going there some time ago.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 2, 2010 13:24:38 GMT
Actually I read the LSOTW thread on there or at least the first 5 pages and it was all positive and polite besides some agro about how the Wreckers got off the Earth after AHM.
I was quite shocked and frankly bored. I go there to laugh at angry internet people not for senisble discusion.
Andy
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Post by kayevcee on Feb 2, 2010 16:46:55 GMT
I enjoyed the first issue a lot once I read the whole thing, but I didn't enjoy going through the Battle of Garrus 9 again. As James and Nick said it didn't go on to set the tone for the whole issue but in all honesty I think the issue would have been better off without the first five pages entirely, instead having the whole thing covered as a 1 or 3 page 'story so far' montage or Kick Off's eye view hinting at the carnage on the ground rather than showing it in all its glory.
It cheapened the impact of what could have otherwise been dramatic moments for me later on, too. When Overlord blasts one of his own men it's no longer a big deal because we saw him shoot Skyquake at the start. Kick-off ripping some nameless dude's head from his shoulders could have been shocking if Kick Off had had a bit more time to get established AND if it hadn't been about the sixth graphic decapitation of the issue so far. I know this is a stylistic thing but my exposure to the IDWverse has been mostly through the -ation series where TFs can take a *lot* of punishment before they go down, but on Garrus 9 they seem as fragile as a character in a Final Destination movie. Maybe weapons are more potent or armour is cheaper out there.
I know this post comes over very negative but I'm still reading the series so if any of you creative sorts happen by this thread again please assume that anything I didn't mention is absolutely groovy- Overlord's scheming, the Predators' wariness, the new recruits and their neatly defined personalities and particularly Rotorstorm's bio up the back - he's basically a flying Bluestreak with egotism instead of inane banter. Love it!
I'll stick with the series even if there's so much arterial energon sloshing around I feel like I have to put my shirt in the wash after reading each issue, but I honestly think the dramatic clashes to come would have more impact if they weren't sharing paper with page after page of juvenile (sorry!) gore.
I've been hovering over "Post Reply" for a while now. I think I'll leave it as it is and let it stand, with an apology attached if it comes across as harsh or unfair.
-Nick
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Post by Mark_Stevenson on Feb 2, 2010 19:01:38 GMT
I'd like to say that I love it. I'll probably have to read it a few more times before a full analysis can be done, but...
...Impactor.
HA!
Mx
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Post by legios on Feb 2, 2010 21:48:23 GMT
I've finally had a chance to read through #1 this afternoon. I planned to read it on Monday when it arrived, but my back pain was sufficiently off-putting that I opted to leave it until I was feeling a bit more capable in the brain department. So it was put aside until this evening.
I think it is a reasonable debut issue for a series. Put it this way, of the last four #1's of IDW's various Transformers series it is the only one that has left me interested enough to think about picking up the next issue. The Overlord portrayal is interesting - very different from his portrayal in Masterforce - and he certainly believes in making very definite first impressions it would seem. I am pleased to see him have such a distinct identity here. It would have been easy to simply lift traits from his screen appearance, but instead he has been defined anew for the IDW universe.
The plan he is working to intriques me as well. It almost seems as if he is filling a sort of "Old Man of the Mountain" kind of role - conditioning the folks on Garrus 9 to carrying out acts of brutal violence in return for (non)eternal rewards. Is he forming an army, a cult, or a mixture of both and for that matter what for? These are the questions I am left with by this issue and I will be interested to find out the answers.
Speaking of violence - I have to agree with those folks who have said that they found the amount, and degree, of violence in this issue somewhat unsettling. But I suspect that it is meant to unsettle me so I find that I am steeling myself to it and trusting that it is relevant to the story. In part this is because of my faith in the creative team. Both Nick Roche and James Roberts have thrown some disturbing moments the audience's way in the past, but usually because there was a good story related reason for them. So I am taking it a little bit on trust that there is a point to the disturbing scenes that we are being shown and that they are not simply gratuitious.
As to the new Wreckers, I would agree that they don't seem like a particularly professional bunch and certainly aren't folks that I could imagine being picked for a Special Operations unit. But on the other hand it does add a level of credibility to the idea that the Autobots are a halfway spent force, with Springer being forced to "take what he can get". I do like their interaction with Top Spin and Twin Twist - the latters certain level of disinterest in the new blokes work quite well I think.
(Actually, I found myself reappraising IDW's Wreckers in general whilst I was reading this issue. Whilst there had always been the sense that Marvel's Wreckers were a Special Operations unit that was sometimes misused by high command, it struck me that what we have seen of IDW's Wreckers suggests that they are something slightly different. Rather than Special Operations work we have really only seen them in the role of an elite line/assault unit. More 75th Ranger Regiment, or 82nd Airborne than Force Recon or SBS. Which would fit with what Springer says here, with its suggestion that the team tend to get thrown into meatgrinder situations and has a high turnover as a result. But I'm digressing now, probably the after-effects of the pain medication).
Art-wise it is pretty impressive. The art itself has a nice sense of energy to it. The arrival of Overlord and Ironfist's waving-handed "this is my hobby 'kay?" panel leap out at me as having a real sense of fluidity and motion to them. (The latter being one of my favourite individual panels in the issue. I'm not sure why, perhaps because the combination of the dialogue and the art really make him stand out as a character there). The layout is quite nice as well - the larger number of shallow panels and closeups onboard Magnus' ship creates a nice sense of a confined space.
Josh Burcham has done a fantastic job with colours on this issue - the contrast between the bright, sharp colours aboard Magnus' spaceship and the much darker hues of Garrus 9 works really well and adds a lot of atmosphere to proceedings.
One thing that didn't work quite as well for me as it might is the final page. I had to have a think about why that was, but I think it is because I don't really know for certain who this character is. After all, he may share a name and an appearance with a Marvel UK character but this story hasn't really defined him yet so I don't know what I am supposed to be feeling at his appearance. The ending works to a certain degree, because the story has established that Impactor is someone who is significant to Springer, and on the list of people the latter expects to never see again. But I don't entirely have a sense of investment in it myself. But then, I had a similar response to the final issue of "Infiltration" where Optimus Prime appeared out of nowhere - but that had the added problem of being supposed to be the end of a series. At least here it is possible that this is a foundation for learning who IDW Impactor is and what he means to Springer.
It certainly lays the foundations for an interesting story. It makes me want to know what Overlord's goals are, and whether he is doing what I suspect he is to Garrus 9's inhabitants. Springer's jadedness with the war is an interesting character beat to play, and one I hope will be explored a little further in upcoming issues. There is certainly plenty of content here - both in terms of events, and in the fact that it establishes quite a sizeable cast of characters quite effectively. It is also rather nice visually as well. As I mentioned before I did find the violence made it a little bit hard to read in places but I have the sense that this is in service of a story point rather than being violence for violence's sake so I persevered through it.
(Also, it has a character profile up the back. I like character profiles and this one does a very deft job of clearly defining IDW Rotorstorm.).
My complements to all involved. This is the first IDW Transformers series since Maximum Dinobots that has held my interest all the way through its first issue, and it will be the first since then that has convinced me to come back for issue 2.
Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 2, 2010 22:16:19 GMT
Overlord - Someone on TFW suggested that this Overlord maybe closer to Euro Overlords tech spec than the Masterforce version. I havent watched MF yet so I can't say for myself, but there is something in Overlords arriving alone and the fear and awe of the other Decepticons that does fit the tech spec description. Violence.- It was violent, but I didn't find it troubling. Spotlight Kup was more disturbing. The violence in this was more Tropic thunder (blowing up steve Coogan and licking the dripping neck, slaughtering the panda bear) and Evil Dead than say things like Saw which to me is like a fetish film. Impactor - I wonder if knowing who Impactor is affects the way we read it. I think Martin said the same thing if it had been a new name and shape but exactly the same character and story if the characters arrival would play differently. On the other hand if you don't know who Impactor is Springer and Kups talk wouldn't lead us to believe Impactor was dead and I really don't know how the cliffhanger would work. Then again most of the people reading this probably don't know who Impactor is so I guess the cliffhanger must work. Or not. Maybe. Andy
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Post by blueshift on Feb 2, 2010 23:07:48 GMT
Whaaaat! We must fix this!
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Post by Bogatan on Feb 2, 2010 23:16:56 GMT
It took so long to get through Headmasters I've never had the energy for the next series. Is the Victory or Masterforce? I need to watch both. It's a good thing really because once I watch them I'll have to fork out for the complete BW series which I can't afford right now.
Also I keep hoping for a decent dub of the two shows and headmasters too.
Andy
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Post by blueshift on Feb 2, 2010 23:39:55 GMT
I would be prepared to wager decent money on you liking Masterforce. I am usually a huge critic of everything, but I can barely fault that series.
Victory is a bit more of the same as Headmasters, only with a really good ending.
Of course, this is getting off topic a bit.
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 3, 2010 2:45:07 GMT
Hmm, interesting varied reactions to the violence. It was such a non-issue for me I didn't even mention it in my post. Perhaps the exuberance of its depiction was such that I interpreted it in the same camp vein as I did Overlord. Although honestly I think most of it comes from me not really reading violence amongst robots as being the same as amongst humans. It's not as serious because they're robots. These guys get stuff ripped off them all the time, and have had it done in older TF comics, although the fluids are certainly flying faster and thicker than they usually do. I can see how that can be a put off.
Me, I'm good with it, but then I do have a liking for the grotesque in comic art. Funnily enough I can't do that level of horror violence in movies though.
On another note, I don't know why there's any grousing over at IDW about how the Wreckers' got off Earth. That was a question of mine, and the answer seems fairly obvious with this issue - Magnus came and picked them up prior to the start of the Ongoing (and acquired Verity at the same time).
What's a little confusing now is Magnus' apparent return to Earth in the Ongoing - there's no mention of Verity, so she's either on his ship or with the Wreckers. Plus there's no reference to the 'fact' that Magnus had already been to Earth post-AHM to collect the Wreckers. And although LSoTW #1 is set before Ongoing #1, we don't yet know where the rest of the series falls with respect to the Ongoing. This isn't a problem with LSoTW, of course, which can be read entirely without any reference to the Ongoing at all. It just makes tying these series together a pain in the ass.
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Post by Kingoji on Feb 3, 2010 7:16:03 GMT
The ongoing is where the answers should lie. It is the one that has made an issue out of the TF's inability to get off-planet, it is the one which confuses matters by throwing in numerous new cast members each issue without even a mention as to how they got there, and it is the one which brought back an Ultra Magnus who appears to have lived in a different reality for the last three years. This issue of the Wreckers, along with Magnus arriving in the ongoing, seems to direct one to the conclusion that Optimus Prime is not the be-all and end-all of Autobot authority. Prime has to answer to the Tyrest Accord by the looks of it, and there had to be someone out there who sees the overall state of the Autobot forces and deems that Garrus 9 is in dire need of some Wrecker action. Magnus, fetch! Not to mention that we have psyche evaluations and the proper processing of new candidates for the team, even if the Autobot forces have been dwindled significantly. This seems to harken back to the way Furman was running things, even if only a little... for example, I was always so intrigued with the fact that in this universe Optimus Prime has to "seek an audience" with Omega Supreme (the ongoing hasn't really clarified it's treatment of Omega yet, but no real surprise there as it hasn't clarified anything at all yet). But anyway, my point is that the situation on Earth comes across as an isolated hinderance. Magnus and the Wreckers can come and go throughout the galaxy, even if they do now need to share a ship, and they're getting their orders from somewhere. I would postulate that the communications breakdown amongst the Autobots (which as I think back on it seems to have been implied but not explicitly stated; there were coms difficulties on Cybertron, but that may have simply been because they were on the atmospherically tumultuous Cybertron) may only be a tertiary after-effect of the Decepticon strike and not one of the primary goals. Squads, units, outposts all slaughtered, the Autobot numbers pitifully lessened... but those who lived got to their working communications centres and called in a sitrep to high command. Hell, maybe some of them could only get in touch with each other, and in their panic made the rash decision of 'We need to find Optimus Prime! He'll know what to do!" and all made their way to his last known location; the Earth. If this were indeed the case, then all the ongoing needs to worry about clarifying is the lack of transport off-planet and the low energy reserves after only three years. Anyway, back to the Wreckers, which is actually capable of telling a tight and concise story... There may well be a number of Iddly-Diddly-Woubleyas complaining about not having things explained, and that doesn't surprise me. They complained even after issue one of the ongoing of the same things despite it's slow narrative pace clearly defining that for the answers to a lot of things you'd need patience. If anything, I'd expect a book as tight and fast-moving as LSotW to have more people expecting that it can give us answers. The way I look at it, it's their loss if they're letting the poor handling of the ongoing upset their enjoyment of this mini. I mean, what if Nick and James DO answer these questions in here, about how Magnus and the Wreckers, and ONLY they, could come and go from Earth, or the state of the Autobot movements command structure thoughout the galaxy and, if things go as I theorized earlier, Optimus and his terran team being a very small and insignificant event? People would then be pissed off that the answers happened in a mini, an optional footnote-side-tale, rather than in the ongoing where continuity should matter most. Nick and James can't really win. The level of violence was for me, to repeat Dinogirl, a major non-issue. I mean, yeah, of course the excessive levels of splattering mech-fluids were noticable, but not bordering on "gorenography". Gen 2, and even Megatron Origin, were far more visceral than what is ultimately a small portion of this book. A book which as it's very premise is about a team of elite warriors going on suicide missions to the very worst kind of violent hot spots imaginable (plus, they're robots anyway) should be expected to be more harsh to it's characters than anything else, yet it isn't! Maybe I'm a little desensitized to it due to a good portion of my teenage years reading titles like Dark Horse Comic's Aliens and Predator comics. And one of my favourite titles of recent years has been Punisher Max. The attitude towards graphic violence in mainstream comics is slowly becoming more and more tolerable, anyway. When I was a kid, you never even saw someone bleed during a fight. I specifically remember the first time I saw it; Wolvering punching his claws right through grey Hulk, and it did upset me. But then it became more frequent for people to get battered, bruised, broken and bloody in battle, Wolverine himself became one of the most popular characters in comics. In more recent years, the Hulk has been eviscerated and devoured on-panel down to his guts and bones. Look at Ultimatum if you must. Graphic cannibalism, limb amputations, decapitations, heads being crushed, bodies being squeezed to pulp, people being shot between the eyes... in a mainstream title, to the flagship characters. In comparison, LSotW seems almost nostalgic in it's subtleties!
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Post by blueshift on Feb 3, 2010 9:57:00 GMT
The ongoing is where the answers should lie. It is the one that has made an issue out of the TF's inability to get off-planet, it is the one which confuses matters by throwing in numerous new cast members each issue without even a mention as to how they got there, and it is the one which brought back an Ultra Magnus who appears to have lived in a different reality for the last three years. Yeah, honestly the ongoing is a bit baffling in its depiction of the entire Autobot army as a tiny little outpost on Earth, but hey, that's not Nick's fault!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 3, 2010 18:36:58 GMT
But on the other hand it does add a level of credibility to the idea that the Autobots are a halfway spent force, with Springer being forced to "take what he can get". "Why me?" "Because you're the best of what's left." - Hot Shots Part Deux Yeah, when they called in a 'specialist' in Spotlight: Kup, they got a bona fide one. These guys... have yet to prove they deserve to be labelled the Autobots' 'elite'. Yeah, that was my favourite panel. I like Ironfist. Which probably means he's gonna die. Just re-read Nick's Prowl story in 'All Hail Megatron'. Even though it's a new Prowl, not my Prowl, he's so Prowl-like that I just love it. I guess I always like that sort of character, whether they're robots or not and called Prowl or not. Plus, so much juicy text on the page. I think Wreckers #1 is my third favourite Nick/IDW comic, after the Prowl story and Spotlight: Shockwave. Martin
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Feb 3, 2010 19:58:30 GMT
But anyway, my point is that the situation on Earth comes across as an isolated hinderance. Yeah, the events there come off like a different continuity to Wreckers. This would annoy me more except damn it, I've been missing -ation-style IDW for months and here it is again!
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 4, 2010 5:08:26 GMT
Just re-read Nick's Prowl story in 'All Hail Megatron'. Even though it's a new Prowl, not my Prowl, he's so Prowl-like that I just love it. I guess I always like that sort of character, whether they're robots or not and called Prowl or not. Plus, so much juicy text on the page. Martin Don't get too attached to that, it looks like it's going to have the piss retconned out of it shortly. In any case, just want to make extra clear that my ramblings concerning inconsistencies between the three current series lies solidly with the Ongoing, not at all at LSoTW. Excellent post there Kingoji and I think you spelled out what I was thinking better than I can think (which is hardly unsurprising). Earth does feel like an odd little echo chamber of its own. In any case, I need to get a proper review of this done up in my LJ, as there are a few people I know over yonder who walked away from TF comics with AHM. Have to let them know there's some worth reading again!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 4, 2010 6:51:48 GMT
Just re-read Nick's Prowl story in 'All Hail Megatron'. Even though it's a new Prowl, not my Prowl, he's so Prowl-like that I just love it. I guess I always like that sort of character, whether they're robots or not and called Prowl or not. Plus, so much juicy text on the page. Don't get too attached to that, it looks like it's going to have the piss retconned out of it shortly. Doesn't mean a thing to me. I'm not following IDW continuity. I'm just enjoying Nick's issues as if they were standalone 'what-if's or homages to the Marvel continuity. Martin
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Post by Kingoji on Feb 4, 2010 19:35:05 GMT
Do you know, I have only just remembered that I provided an illustration for some James Roberts writing? W00T!
And indeed, shame on me for forgetting...
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Post by legios on Feb 4, 2010 22:12:41 GMT
[ Yeah, that was my favourite panel. I like Ironfist. Which probably means he's gonna die. Ironfist is wonderful. I think he is probably one of the better characters in the first issue. Not sure whether I am expecting him to die. But I am fairly sure that wide-eyed innocence of his is going to be a casualty sadly. Don't get too attached to that, it looks like it's going to have the piss retconned out of it shortly. In any case, just want to make extra clear that my ramblings concerning inconsistencies between the three current series lies solidly with the Ongoing, not at all at LSoTW. I've found that there is something freeing about knowing that Last Stand of the Wreckers is my last IDW Transformers series for the forseeable future(there is nothing else currently announced that interests me). For me it now exists in a vacum - it doesn't need to be consistent with other comics that I am not reading anyway. As long as it is internally consistent and makes sense in its own right then that is enough. Karl
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 5, 2010 4:20:36 GMT
[ Yeah, that was my favourite panel. I like Ironfist. Which probably means he's gonna die. Ironfist is wonderful. I think he is probably one of the better characters in the first issue. Not sure whether I am expecting him to die. But I am fairly sure that wide-eyed innocence of his is going to be a casualty sadly. Yeah, I thought he was adorable, especially the panel where he turns around to the others and starts into his hobby/obsession. I like Pyro as well, with his reaction to Verity and his apologizing. Both are indeed most likely goners! Excellent point. If only I had the willpower to stop caring/reading about the Ongoing. Maybe I can make that a belated New Year's resolution! Wreckers or nothin'!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Feb 5, 2010 6:52:24 GMT
Yeah, I thought he was adorable, especially the panel where he turns around to the others and starts into his hobby/obsession. I like Pyro as well, with his reaction to Verity and his apologizing. Both are indeed most likely goners! Shame really, as I'm finding a lot more appeal in having the guys flesh out TFs in the IDW universe who never appeared in Marvel or Masterforce - Kick-Off, Pyro, Ironfist, etc. _are_ Kick-Off, Pyro, Ironfist, etc. to me and not Kick-Off/Pyro/Ironfist impersonators or homages. OK then, does anyone feel like laying down here, on the basis of the first issue, their best guess as to who lives and who dies? Here's my reckoning: James and Nick are perfectly capable of doing nasty things to the likes of Ultra Magnus, Kup and Springer, but I don't think IDW would let them be killed off so I reckon they're safe from being properly, unambiguously killed. I also think the human will live for sure. Top Spin and Twin Twist, on the other hand, are the ones I'm most confident _will_ die, especially after their lines about having a habit of saving each other, and just being another couple of gunslingers. They aren't being given strong individual characters like the new guys, so I reckon they're being treated as expendable. The rest, I'm not sure about. I'd like to see this incarnation of Impactor live, just to make a change from form to date. But I think he's a dead'un too. Pyro might live, if he has to shape up and take command at some point. On the other hand, is there room for another Optimus Prime type? I'll guess no. Perceptor I guess is the most expendable of the animated movie guys, so he might cop it. Yeah, I'll say so. Probably Guzzle and Rotorstorm too. But on reflection, I'll guess that Ironfist lives in order to chronicle the Wreckers' last stand on his blog. Overlord and Kick-Off will probably die. Hmmm, the way I've sketched it out, it does sound pretty violent. Any alternative speculations? PS I want to be proved completely wrong. I like unpredictability. The trouble is, Wreckers looks like being so successful that Roberts and Roche will probably be conscripted to the ongoing series... which means more IDW TF comics for the likes of us... Martin
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Post by legios on Feb 5, 2010 7:12:21 GMT
The trouble is, Wreckers looks like being so successful that Roberts and Roche will probably be conscripted to the ongoing series... which means more IDW TF comics for the likes of us... Martin And the problem with this would be.........? :-) Karl
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Post by Kingoji on Feb 5, 2010 17:53:42 GMT
Perceptor I want to see dead. Not because I dislike him in this continuity, but because he won't be keeping Kup stable anymore, which would lead to some very bad things...
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 5, 2010 20:37:18 GMT
Hey Ralph I was sorry to read that the first few pages put you off. Maybe later on you'll go back to find out what happened in the rest of comic, and maybe that'll persuade you to stick around for future issues. The pages you've read serve as a kind of pre-credits sequence to the story, and - much as I personally love 'em - don't necessarily reflect the following 100 pages. As the story unfolds, you'll see (or you MIGHT see, depending on whether you continue reading) that this is about more than action sequences. Nick and I made sure of that. My comments were based on looking at a friends's copy. My previously ordered issues (I ordered both covers) have been in the postal system for a week now. At some point they will turn up and I shall give the rest of the issue a go. Can't say fairer than that. -Ralph
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Post by dinogrrl on Feb 6, 2010 5:07:12 GMT
Yeah, I thought he was adorable, especially the panel where he turns around to the others and starts into his hobby/obsession. I like Pyro as well, with his reaction to Verity and his apologizing. Both are indeed most likely goners! Shame really, as I'm finding a lot more appeal in having the guys flesh out TFs in the IDW universe who never appeared in Marvel or Masterforce - Kick-Off, Pyro, Ironfist, etc. _are_ Kick-Off, Pyro, Ironfist, etc. to me and not Kick-Off/Pyro/Ironfist impersonators or homages. I never even knew who these characters were to start with, and was expecting them to be quintessential redshirt types, and here I am already liking several of them enough that I would be bummed if/when they die. That there is good writing. OK then, does anyone feel like laying down here, on the basis of the first issue, their best guess as to who lives and who dies? Here's my reckoning: James and Nick are perfectly capable of doing nasty things to the likes of Ultra Magnus, Kup and Springer, but I don't think IDW would let them be killed off so I reckon they're safe from being properly, unambiguously killed. I also think the human will live for sure. Magnus has already re-appeared in the ongoing (yeah, yeah, shut up) and there was mention on the IDW boards (I think) that Verity will be in the ongoing in the second part of the year (unless I'm remembering that wrong), so they both survive. Out of Kup, Springer and Perceptor, Perceptor is the most expendable character, and I won't be sad to see this rather poorly version of him vanish. A sad indictment of AHM that my formerly favourite character is now one I would almost actively want to die. Kup is a possibility, but given that he's become somewhat iconic for IDW given the whole cygar thing, I agree that he survives. Springer is the main man in this, so I'd be thoroughly flabbergasted if he bought the farm. Twin Twist and Top Spin I agree are death candidates, at least one of them will go, for sure. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if all the new Wreckers died, really. Ironfists' blackout issue seems to set him up for a future fall, but then perhaps Nick just wants us to think that way, and he lives through it. This is what I love about this series already. I knew it would have Wreckers and some bloody battles with some dude named Overlord, but I had no idea what else would be in this first issue. And I still can't tell you what's going to happen next. I might guess who will die, but bugger if we all don't have to hedge our bets. This is what makes it so fun to read. Nick and James make the future unpredictable yet intriguing and exciting. There is no trouble with that! No trouble at all! I'd even put up with Don's stylings if the main comic was written by either or both of these two.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Feb 6, 2010 10:24:49 GMT
Lurgied up and too tired to post a proper review - needless to say I thoroughly enjoyed it. Best issue of Transformers from IDW since the last Revelations Spotlight.
MORE, MORE!
Andy
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2010 11:22:44 GMT
At least one member of the Scots contingent liked it. I haven't got my copy yet. I've received the latest issues of Bumblebee, the Ongoing and Tales of the Fallen but have yet to place an order for this one. I'll have to get around to it next week.
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Post by legios on Feb 6, 2010 14:27:03 GMT
At least one member of the Scots contingent liked it. In fairness I don't recall saying that I didn't like it. Just that I wasn't comfortable with some of the content. The fact that I am planning to buy future issues of the series would surely suggest that I was better disposed to it than, say, the ongoing title or the Bumblebee LS? Karl
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2010 14:39:54 GMT
I think I must have missed your post when you commented on it. All I remember reading here so far was that Ralph doesn't like it all that much while Andy does.
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Post by kayevcee on Feb 6, 2010 23:19:51 GMT
I like it as well, and I'm also sticking with it. I just had a couple of points that I thought could have been better. Nothing's perfect- except for Spotlight Kup, that is.
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Post by Rich on Feb 7, 2010 20:00:25 GMT
I've only read it once, and that was late last night while waiting for the last train home, so my thoughts are probably shallow, but it has to be said that I loved the final page: it really made me smile, and that more than justifies the cover price for me.
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