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Post by The Doctor on Oct 10, 2010 12:18:39 GMT
Gotta - ack!
-Ralph
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Post by skillex on Oct 10, 2010 19:37:06 GMT
I am - whisper it - actually not minding the Drift miniseries much. It passes the time and I'd rank higher than the ongoing, Ironhide or AHM.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 10, 2010 20:51:28 GMT
I'd rank it right alongside them.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 10, 2010 22:47:23 GMT
Likewise.
It's pump.
Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 11, 2010 16:15:04 GMT
I am amused by the 'controversy' online re: Armada Hot Shot being killed because I did not spot it. Even when the panel was pointed out to me I couldn't see him. Or when it was pointed out it was chap x in that panel. I tried squinting but it just looked liked a very small shapeless mass in a small panel to me. I honestly couldn't tell it was meant to be anyone!
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 11, 2010 16:55:14 GMT
I am amused by the 'controversy' online re: Armada Hot Shot being killed because I did not spot it. Even when the panel was pointed out to me I couldn't see him. Or when it was pointed out it was chap x in that panel. I tried squinting but it just looked liked a very small shapeless mass in a small panel to me. I honestly couldn't tell it was meant to be anyone! -Ralph The controversy was less that it was Hot Shot being killed, more that Alex Milne drew it simply to be a jerk to someone.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 11, 2010 17:00:25 GMT
Possibly, but when the art is does not clearly indicate who it's meant to be, I can't see the fuss.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 11, 2010 20:17:53 GMT
Yeah, it seems to be a storm in a teacup. Surely if Milne is being rude to some particular individual it is between them - especially as it has been done in such an oblique way that I can't understand it without it being pointed out in great detail? It isn't perhaps a terribly polite thing to do, but surely not something that directly concerns anyone other than the immediate parties??
(Also, drawing a random background character who happens to look like a character from a childrens action-adventure cartoon that you know a particular person happens to like being killed doesn't really seem like the kind of insult that warrants any kind of reaction other than rising above. To me at least.)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2010 9:41:24 GMT
I'm liking the Drift miniseries. I think McCarthy is better suited to these limited runs like Spotlights and mini-series. He might just have had too many pages to fill in 12 issues of AHM and decompressed the story to fit.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 23, 2010 22:14:46 GMT
Thanks to Mr Merrifield, I have read #4. A crowning achievement in literature.
-Ralph
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Post by grahamthomson on Oct 25, 2010 9:09:33 GMT
Is it true that Drift now possesses a MAGIC SWORD?!
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Post by chrisl on Oct 25, 2010 9:54:15 GMT
Drift was revealed to be The Riddler from Batman..........
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2010 9:56:58 GMT
Is it true that Drift now possesses a MAGIC SWORD?! Not only that, but a MAGIC SWORD that may quite possibly be one of the most ludicrous Magic Swords that can be imagined. -Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 25, 2010 10:48:00 GMT
Is it true that Drift now possesses a MAGIC SWORD?! Not only that, but a MAGIC SWORD that may quite possibly be one of the most ludicrous Magic Swords that can be imagined. -Ralph Do tell, I have yet to read of this delight
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2010 11:57:40 GMT
All of the robots of Crystal City have giant magic swords they wear on their backs, but they never use them because they draw on their life energy if used. So, yes, they invented a supah weapon that they can never use because if they do they die. At the end, Dai Atlas thinks Drift is so super awesome that he gives him one of these swords. -Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 25, 2010 16:35:55 GMT
Without knowing the context, the idea seems to have some merit. A weapon that kills both sides is a weapon used as a last line of defense rather than one for trying to take power. For a race with a large number prone to fits of meglomania but being McCarthy I expect its just cool and shiney. Andy
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2010 18:42:18 GMT
Personally, I think carrying a weapon you can never use is writing of the shittest order. Even a stick is more useful. -Ralph
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Post by legios on Oct 25, 2010 19:31:10 GMT
The idea of it being a weapon you can never use might have some merit, if it were something that was equally dangerous to an opponent. A sword is not that kind of weapon however. A sword that kills you if you use just means that if the situation is so desperate that you have no other weapon all you can do is either stand there and let him shoot you dead or try and attack him with your sword which drains your life and makes you die..... Which presumably the guy attacking you was intending for you to do anyway. It is sort of a reverse/idiotic version of the nuclear deterrent, an "if you attack me I will kill myself" as opposed to "if you attack me you will die too". Karl
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 25, 2010 20:18:27 GMT
The idea of it being a weapon you can never use might have some merit, if it were something that was equally dangerous to an opponent. A sword is not that kind of weapon however. A sword that kills you if you use just means that if the situation is so desperate that you have no other weapon all you can do is either stand there and let him shoot you dead or try and attack him with your sword which drains your life and makes you die..... Which presumably the guy attacking you was intending for you to do anyway. It is sort of a reverse/idiotic version of the nuclear deterrent, an "if you attack me I will kill myself" as opposed to "if you attack me you will die too". Karl I'm working on the assumption a sword so powerful it kills the user must be pretty bad for the victim too. Basically using it is gauranteed to kill you and the attacker, in which case it is relatively good as a deterent because only the equvilant of a suicide bomber (suicide stabber?) would choose to use it as an offensive weapon and anyone willing to attack some one with such a sword would also have to be stupid or insane, but yes many other weapons would make far more sense in the role.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 25, 2010 22:54:49 GMT
Sorry to disappoint folks but no, it is just stupid. In the same way as the 'explanation' of why the Crystal City bots choose bladed weapons over guns is not because they are more honourable or capable but that they simply choose to go for the worse weapons with no explanation given. The Super Swords just seem to be swords that glow - hence the Crystal City bots arming themselves with guns when critically needed and slaughtering an attacking army in a couple pages with no mercy in the name of spreading 'peace'.
The whole series is just daft. I bought it. I can say it.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 26, 2010 10:41:09 GMT
But, dude, that ending where Drift goes to Japan and drift-slides up a cherry bloosom covered mountain and transforms and looks at the sunset was AMAZING!
No, that's not a parody. That's really how it ends. -Ralph
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Post by bertie on Oct 26, 2010 11:42:25 GMT
Sounds bollocks. :-)
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Post by legios on Oct 26, 2010 11:47:02 GMT
No, that's not a parody. That's really how it ends. -Ralph Oh, good grief...... Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 26, 2010 12:12:52 GMT
As bollocks as it is, the series still urinates on a high height over Costa's Ongoing series.
In the interest of balance, I liked the Dai Atlas character in it.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 26, 2010 14:40:44 GMT
Dai Atlas was unfortunately 'smoothed out' in places to make him fit more in with the other 'Knights' in Crystal City. Just about any other obscure Japanese TF could have played exactly the same role. In fact I'm surprised Star Saber wasn't used as he is a much more natural fit to the role.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2010 16:10:57 GMT
Dai Atlas was unfortunately 'smoothed out' in places to make him fit more in with the other 'Knights' in Crystal City. Just about any other obscure Japanese TF could have played exactly the same role. In fact I'm surprised Star Saber wasn't used as he is a much more natural fit to the role. What irks me about Dai Atlas is his characterization. His previous portrayal in Zone was as almost a superhero Autobot. Dai Atlas' power level was way off the charts and he was a competent leader. Because this is Drift's mini, Dai Atlas is just a secondary character used to pander to Generation 1 fans. Unless IDW has other plans for Star Saber, perhaps he was just overlooked. Then again, this is IDW we are talking about. My regrets about IDW are all coming true. When Dreamwave imploded, I felt the most logical choice for Hasbro's properties was Marvel. Marvel would offer Hasbro an opportunity to reach a wider audience as well as reprint all the original series. While IDW has reprinted a great deal of back issues, at first IDW couldn't even secure Marvel character licenses. Classic Transformers were incomplete trades. Simon Furman began IDW's initial run with a clever re-imagining of Transformers universe. However, IDW used Spotlights and short minis to tell this new story. I wasn't sure where each story fit into continuity. In fact, I waited until the oversized hard cover was released just to make sense of what fit where. I'm sure IDW blamed Furman's direction for Transformers slide in sales and not the editorial confusion IDW created. So, IDW hired inexperienced writers to retcon a good chunk of what Furman wrote. I never read AHM but I know people that just thought the covers were cool and never really read the story. AHM was followed with more Spotlights and Transformers Continuum: the reboot. Now, IDW publishes an ongoing and character minis instead of Spotlights. Transformers continuity is a mess and the storylines are lacking a good narrative. It's a real disaster.
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Post by charlesrocketboy on Oct 26, 2010 23:40:25 GMT
What irks me about Dai Atlas is his characterization. His previous portrayal in Zone was as almost a superhero Autobot. I'd love to buy an IDW mini where he was a superhero Autobot, turning up out of nowhere to be a completely different genre and acting like the anti-Overlord. Everyone else would be having a sci-fi war story and then suddenly this black-and-white minded, square jawed saviour-warrior turns up complete with his own secret HQ, personal transports, and a Micromaster sidekick...
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 27, 2010 16:16:40 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2010 16:38:43 GMT
I have so far only brought issue 1 of this series but going by what everybody here has said about it I'm inclined to get the other issues.
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Post by grahamthomson on Nov 24, 2010 9:15:10 GMT
*raises hand* I've read Drift #1-4!
IDW has just put the last issue of TRANSFORMERS DRIFT onto their iPad App. I've now read all four issues. It only cost a mere £4 something. I can live with that.
But now I've read it, I feel quite scared to open the other IDW TRANSFORMERS comics I have...
I get the feeling that Shane McCarthy has snuck into my home and carefully spliced pictures of Drift into my old comics to make it look like the character was present at every single defining moment of Transformers' history.
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