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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 17:09:36 GMT
Do you have a link for this please?
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 17, 2012 17:20:58 GMT
And Megatron only came back to life in issue 78, what's your point caller? Well, from #1 to issue #80, Megatron's body was never written off. Yes, he was incapacitated by poisoned fuel, received a concussion that allowed him to be controlled by a human, temporarily froze in place due to running out of fuel, blew himself across the Space Bridge so that he wandered aimlessly in the Dead End until nursed back to relative sanity, blown through a portal, merged with Ratchet, separated from Ratchet and then knocked out when his spaceship crashed, but he's never actually been destroyed. Prime has had two bodies properly destroyed and shown a knack for coming back due to having his mind stored elsewhere and a new body created from nothing. That's why it would be hard to think of him as ever properly dying. He may have floppy copies stashed all over the place, and has the privilege of immortality within the Creation Matrix for good measure. Martin |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 17:31:58 GMT
Prime surely must have made numerous copies of that disk by now. Hopefully it has now been transferred to a CD.
That proves how tough Megatron actually is.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 17, 2012 17:37:15 GMT
Prime may be backed up on a floppy disc, but Megatron is probably backed up on MP3, just to show how hard he is.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Aug 17, 2012 18:34:25 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 17, 2012 20:19:50 GMT
According to this page: www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2012/2012-07.html issue 81 came in at 137 on the charts with just under 16000 orders. That's one place above Spawn and 27 above RID and MTMTE with just over 11000 each. Obviously this is sort of a first issue, so you'd expect that to drop and probably be on a level with the other two. I'd like to see a couple of annuals too, fingers crossed for some Geoff Senior interior art. Are those still the numbers the comics are doing? Crikey, looks like it never recovered from the AHM/ongoing crash Just thinking about it, while those numbers aren't huge, at least they are managing to put out 3 comics a months plus specials and digital sales and the digital only comics. So hopefully things are better than they were a few years ago. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2012 21:32:44 GMT
Thank you very much :-)
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Post by Dave on Sept 5, 2012 12:35:35 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 5, 2012 17:23:40 GMT
Those who have written about this panel represented it fairly accurately and comprehensively, it seems to me on viewing to make sure. I would now like to ban the word 'nod'. But huge respect to Andy Wildman for his drawing speed. Issue #88 done by the time of this interview, so now he's taking a break?! Other TF artists must despise him! My annoyance rises again with Simon Furman being under the belief that having the old UK stories happen in the RG1 universe would have meant he would be compelled to tell current US readers about those events - when that was never the case in the first 80 US issues. And how he's forgotten that he did (without any need to do so) refer to UK stories like 'Race with the Devil', 'Out to Lunch' and 'Deathbringer' in his Marvel US run. Grrr. So frustrating. And would be more frustrating if I weren't already considering dropping the series because of what he's done to Earth. I'll read issue #83 then decide. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 5, 2012 19:03:37 GMT
I read #83. I enjoyed it and I can't be arsed into getting into any more tedious debates about continuity so I will exit the thread again until #84 drops!
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 6, 2012 17:49:48 GMT
I read #83. I enjoyed it and I can't be arsed into getting into any more tedious debates about continuity so I will exit the thread again until #84 drops! -Ralph Fear not, Ralph. I've read issue #83 in full now and suspect it's my last. Not because of the continuity issues, which would have continued to spoil my full enjoyment but wouldn't have been fatal to my subscription. Rather it's the mass killing of billions of humans, including babies, grannies and most of the human characters I met in #1-80, which I can't really stomach. It would have meant an end to my enjoyment of the adventure and to my subscription at any point between 1984 and 1991 had it occurred then, and that part of me hasn't changed. I suppose a lot of skyscrapers got levelled in Masterforce and the live-action movies, but cities being nuked like in G2 and RG1... nah, too heavy for entertainment, especially in a present-day setting that had up to that point been essentially the same as the world I live in. Just a matter of personal taste. The continuity thing just makes it easier. Hope everyone else continues to enjoy it, but as they say I shall vote with my wallet. Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 6, 2012 17:52:57 GMT
I choose to believe Bomber Bill survived! -Ralph |
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Post by Marc Graham on Sept 6, 2012 17:53:37 GMT
Waiting for #83 myself to wing its way to me, but I've been enjoying it for what it is so far and I'm going to stick with it. Although I guess I'm indifferent to the fate of humanity in a fictional world, but maybe I'm just cold!
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Post by primenova on Sept 6, 2012 17:55:06 GMT
Should it have been more a long the lines of RoD or AOA where all the places are intact but everyone is enslaved. But Megatron has his own group of slaves - the reanimated Decepticons so he had no need for human slaves.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 6, 2012 17:55:09 GMT
I choose to believe Bomber Bill survived! -Ralph As do I. And as I shall not be reading what actually happens, I choose to believe he comes in when all hope is lost and defeats Megatron single-handedly. Martin |
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Post by Jim on Sept 7, 2012 9:46:10 GMT
Read 83 on the way to work this morning (chap next to me blatantly peering over my shoulder), enjoyed it much more than 82 though I'm still wary of the Earth status quo.
I found the art stronger than last month as well, but I've put my finger on one thing that has been bothering me - the rejuvenated Cybertron looks all old and battered, cracks and dents everywhere. I feel it would have played better into the story to have it all gleaming and pristine, contrasting with the states of Earth and Nebulos.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 7, 2012 10:29:34 GMT
Unless that's a plot point that might come to fruition later on. Just what did the Last Autobot do to fix Cybertron, and did killing him start to reverse it.
The art keeps getting better, I always said I thought it would be a few issues before Wildman/Baskerville really fell into place.
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Post by Dave on Sept 7, 2012 14:49:59 GMT
Just read #83 and I'm very much enjoying the series still. The only thing that bothers me about what happened to the Earth (and I think someone else mentioned this) is how no one bothered to check up on it over the past 21 years. Did I see... Circuit Breaker ...in one panel? |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 7, 2012 16:44:27 GMT
Yes you did.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 7, 2012 17:07:56 GMT
The guided view editor for #83 is a gibbon, missing out huge chunks of panels. Recommend full-page view only for this particular issue.
-Ralph
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Post by Marc Graham on Sept 7, 2012 18:15:28 GMT
Got #83 today, still enjoying this series, interesting to see how things will pan out, theres a lot of undercurrents going on in this series I feel.
Marc.
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Post by KnightBeat on Sept 7, 2012 23:15:05 GMT
Just read #83 and I'm very much enjoying the series still. The only thing that bothers me about what happened to the Earth (and I think someone else mentioned this) is how no one bothered to check up on it over the past 21 years. Did I see... Circuit Breaker ...in one panel? Yes indeed, although she appears to have been cunningly disguised as a generic glowy, flying human to avoid copyright infringement. Hey G.B. Blackrock! Why the long face? |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 9, 2012 20:14:32 GMT
Picked up one of the hand-drawn sketch covers for #81 (from FPG, they had just one). I haven't seen this type of variant before. It's a neat idea and better value than standard RI covers as you get a one-off item. Clever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2012 12:17:10 GMT
Whilst I agree that the art is becoming less inconsistent with each issue, I realised this issue exactly what bugs me most about it - and unfortunately I think it's the inking. To my mind the best-looking panels (and perhaps coincidentally the ones that most reminded of Wildman's work on the original series) were the videoscreen images of Megatron, where the inking is thinner and less pronounced. It's a shame the effect isn't used more often.
It's not going to stop me reading though.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 11, 2012 15:05:24 GMT
My Geoff Senior/Josh Burcham incentive cover arrived today courtesy of Mr Bax. Great to see the return of G.B. Blackrock in this, I was expecting to see him at some point. Great that we did kind of see Circuit Breaker and the NeoKnights in some form. I'm curious as to how the inevitable Prime vs Megatron confrontation is going to play out, as I don't see it being settled in just a mad fight, there's going to be something else coming into play. My money is on Ratchet, just to keep the consistency.
From the end of the issue it would appear that the Autobots insistence on keeping the deactivated bodies of their enemies is going to haunt them AGAIN! Now I understand that, but you would think they would keep them in different locations, to make things difficult should some ne'er do well comes looking for them.
Without digging through back issues, I would be inclined to say that Argus base is unlikely to be the PIT, could be an old RAAT/Triple I base. In my head, it's the vault where Professor Morris was kept!
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Post by jasonw on Sept 11, 2012 16:43:39 GMT
I despise what Furman has done with the Earth in these stories. It's nonsensical that the Autobots would not check up on the unaccounted for Ark with a bunch of their own deactivated Autobots in it, or keep some tabs on Earth.
It's lazy and clumsy. Most of all it makes a nonsense of the whole G1 run, because the Autobots have lost. Prime's sole mission was to protect Earth. That's failed. It's done.
If he kills Optimus off AGAIN. I'm booking out, as that really would be lazy.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 16:56:33 GMT
I think Megatron will be killed by someone having to kill Ratchet (since they have that psychic connection thing still) |
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Post by Jim on Sept 11, 2012 16:56:40 GMT
I have now managed to order the Senior cover to 83 for a reasonable price, but am still kicking myself for missing 82. Must get organised and get some pre-orders in somewhere for the next ones.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 18:21:00 GMT
Got my copy today. The story is moving along nicely and picking up pace.
I still think that Megatron may well defeat Prime in battle but before he can finish him off Ratchet will be destroyed and thus Megatron will die.
Interesting to know where Shockwave is. When Leadfoot said he couldn't understand how Megatron was able to take control of the Ark etc I wouldn't be surprised if Shockwave is behind that. We know he is highly intelligent and maybe he is behind the scenes running things. And Galvatron can't still be underneath the ice.
I personally think that Megatron's Earth attack is totally believable. He is portrayed as an insane, evil and deadly foe and will kill anyone who gets in his way yet we rarely saw any evidence of this. It makes sense that he commits genocide just because he was bored. With no Autobots about he would take great delight in killing as many humans as possible.
Spike said that for the first few years he kept the Ark off limits, probably as Fort Max. It makes sense really that Optimums Prime, wanting to leave Earth alone as he always felt guilty about bringing the war to it, should trust Fort Max to protect the Ark. Prime probably thought if there ever was a problem Spike would contact them but as that never happened the Autobots left Earth alone.
Nice to see Dirtbag there too!
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2012 19:58:52 GMT
It's interesting reading that some folk read the original series as being about the Autobots saving Earth and with that being Prime's mission, etc. I never read it as that, personally. It always felt like Earth was doomed from the moment the Ark crashed on it and it was a brief battlefield born against the backdrop of a millennia long war fought by robots with a different concept of time. Probably why the fate of Earth in Regen One doesn't sit oddly with me. Pretty much a logical extension of what was already there. Certainly, I recall sitting down and reading the full Marvel US/UK run in 2000 in a week and I couldn't see any happy ending for Earth in there.
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