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Post by The Doctor on Oct 10, 2012 17:20:37 GMT
Amazing Geoff Senior cover for #84. Best TF work he's done in years.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 10, 2012 18:09:39 GMT
I heartily concur!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2012 14:47:47 GMT
Yeah this first storyline is playing out pretty much as I guessed it would, as well as what Screamer's plan is (I believe I even mentioned this when Ratchet first appeared in this story!)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2012 12:33:28 GMT
Issue 84 did feel slightly like treading water and moving pieces into predictable places. But it looked good.
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Post by Jim on Oct 18, 2012 15:18:07 GMT
Absolutely agree re: the Senior cover. Marvellous work. Could we get a collection of these, like those Marvel art appreciation cover stunts?
Enjoyed this issue quite a bit, Wildman seems to be improving and even if I still dislike the wasteland Earth set up I'm feeling quite engaged overall. Even if UK continuity is being ignored we're getting some nice nods.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 22, 2012 20:06:52 GMT
Issue 84 did feel slightly like treading water and moving pieces into predictable places. But it looked good. Pretty much my thoughts! -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 8, 2012 9:24:20 GMT
Well I cracked and grabbed the digital version rather than wait the usual week for the print copy. Golly. Poor Springer! -Ralph
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Post by KnightBeat on Nov 8, 2012 20:46:26 GMT
An enjoyable issue, but I still have trouble mentally linking it to the original US Marvel series. It has the characters, but it feels a bit lifeless (unsurprising, given the state of Earth, I suppose) and predictable. Hopefully Galvatron's return will liven up the situation. The biggest surprise of the issue was the appearance of Optimus Prime, Prowl, and co. in vehicle mode. I expected everyone to have become Action Masters, with the exception of Slag and a few others. Simon claims this will be explored in the next issue.
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Post by Jim on Nov 9, 2012 11:59:50 GMT
Brutal! Springer's demise caught me off-guard; although elsewhere in the issue death seems to be down to the spark core being destroyed and it seems to be located in the chest, so there's hope yet. At least for fan-fiction scribes. I'm still not quite feeling that it connects well to the US run either, though I am enjoying it and Wildman seems to be in his stride now. Got the Senior cover again this time, though didn't feel it was quite up to the others so far (especially last issue's). The Guidi covers continue to be great.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2012 19:19:33 GMT
Fantastic issue. Great final battle between the two biggest icons in the Transformers.
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Post by Marc Graham on Nov 10, 2012 9:04:06 GMT
Enjoyed it quite a lot. Its a slightly different take I think than if we'd had the series continue back then - but I'm enjoying it for the wild ride its taking us on in any case.
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Post by Dave on Nov 10, 2012 11:27:23 GMT
My copy arrived this morning and I loved it. OK the solution was what was suggested last issue, but I'd rather have something that makes sense rather than surprising us just for the sake of it. I've had some problems with "Loose Ends" but there was nothing new to add to the list this issue. Very much looking forward to "Natural Selection".
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Post by Bogatan on Nov 10, 2012 22:03:18 GMT
Still enjoying it, but I wish Loose ends had been done a little quicker. Not because I have any problem with it, but there seems so much set up that 15 issues hardly seem enough. Unlike others I have really had no problem accepting it as a continuation of the old comic. Springers death came as a surprise and Megatrons deaths wasn't so much surprising, but it was intense (as was Ratchets) and the first time we have had a real and proper Megatron death aside from maybe DOTM. I'm curious to see how Galvatrons return is tied to Megatrons death, maybe Megatron will prove to be less dead than we believe. Hoping for some more post Actionmaster characters to appear now. Roll on Thunderclash or similar.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2012 21:28:22 GMT
Some fine G2-like violence from Ultra Magnus on the Geoff cover. In fact, it is exactly like what you would imagine a cover from a lost issue of G2 to have looked like.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2012 13:17:33 GMT
So conflicted... Enjoyed the Loose Ends ride overall, but I can't help but feel that 20 years ago it would have been an issue or 2 shorter than this. And that the art back then was slightly better (again, the single "flashback" panel actually looked like it was snapped from an old comic, and looked better than the opposing page with the same characters).
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Post by legios on Nov 14, 2012 21:11:09 GMT
Right, quite enjoyed #85. It had a nice sense of steadily building to a crescendo and i did think that it pays of the idea of "one last toe-to-toe showdown" quite well. I like the fact that there are effectively multiple resolutions happening simultaneously - Prime deciding that he has to be better than his opponent and paying the price for that, Kup deciding that sometimes the right thing to do is the unthinkable, and Spike stepping up to save [what little is left of] his world. That is a nice piece of structure - I like the way it is framed so that everyone involved is likely to think that their moment was the pivotal turning point, when in truth they are all parts of the puzzle.
I was genuinely surprised by the return of Galvatron - that felt like closed business suddenly being torn open again.
I confess to finding myself more interested in finding out what is happening with Skorpornok though - any time someone starts ranting about "the future of our species" or "evolutionary breakthroughs" it usually means that some sort of horrendous error is about to shamble from their labs. ...
I have Guido Guidi cover myself and I rather like it. So nice to have Guidi getting to do work on good Transformers comics. Karl
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2012 14:07:45 GMT
Also, and this is probably inspired largely by a certain storyline coincidentally currently happening elsewhere, but the Prime/Megatron conflict seemed more than slightly thematically reminiscent of the never-ending conflict between Batman and the Joker... Order vs chaos, a psychotic murderer trying to drag The Law down to his level, how far can you push someone...?
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Post by Death's Head on Nov 18, 2012 18:45:11 GMT
Lee Sullivan did used to draw Prime as Batman and Galvatron as Jack Nicholson...
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Post by KnightBeat on Nov 18, 2012 19:20:01 GMT
I never realised, but there is an uncanny resemblance now that you mention it.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Nov 18, 2012 19:55:33 GMT
Of particular note was the colour art on Page 17, a stunning job by John-Paul.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 21, 2012 22:49:01 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Nov 21, 2012 22:52:07 GMT
SF) See above. But the Scorponok in RG1 is going to be far more like the original version from Headmasters mini-series than the more conflicted/ambiguous Zarak version who sacrificed himself in #75. He's a badass basically, but a more cerebral badass. That's all I'm willing to say for now. Disappointing
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 13:56:47 GMT
Disappointing I agree, though it seems the most logical approach to me. Whilst clearly the headless HM bodies still contained elements of the original TF personality, it kinda makes sense to me that the heads, once cut off from the body, would no longer experience the same things or be affected by the Nebulon partner's personality. Or, at the very least, the impact would be lessened - like receiving a radio transmission on an unclear wavelength, especially when the body is millions of light years away on Earth/Cybertron.
That being said, the noble Scorponok is a lot more interesting than another vengeful megalomaniac.
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 22, 2012 17:54:22 GMT
Well I don't see the point in bringing Scorpy back just to retread what the other version did so doing something different is more interesting to me and it makes more sense he would be a fiend as he has not experienced the effects of Lord Zarak.
There could be interesting story merit in the idea that for the Headmasters they all had two completely different lives yet are the 'same' person.
On a tangent, looking at those preview pages for #86, I think Wildman and Baskerville have really clicked now and got into their groove.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2012 21:49:15 GMT
Who is the Autobot talking to Hot Rod? I thought Windcharger at first but I don't think it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 13:59:42 GMT
Well I don't see the point in bringing Scorpy back just to retread what the other version did so doing something different is more interesting to me and it makes more sense he would be a fiend as he has not experienced the effects of Lord Zarak. There could be interesting story merit in the idea that for the Headmasters they all had two completely different lives yet are the 'same' person. I wholeheartedly agree with the principles, and am interested to see what Simon does here. I think, in my previous post, I was suffering the age-old circular stupidity of wanting something new so long as it's not different from what I liked before. And having read #86... undecided. On the one hand I'm intrigued by the random and varied Nucleon reactions in the Nursery (is there a list anywhere of who should be infected?), but on the other finding Scorpy's master plan to be kinda uninteresting. The idea of there being a switch in every TF that decides if you're good or evil? Meh.
Grimlock's internal guilt and self-doubt seems more like Optimus than Grimlock, but I like it nonetheless. Ditto for Optimus bearing his scars.
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Post by The Huff on Dec 11, 2012 13:34:03 GMT
What is up with Huffer, I wonder? Nothing - he keeps moaning so they just put him in stasis so they wouldn't have to listen to him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2012 13:50:09 GMT
The Art goes from stunning to sketchy in the first two pages, I don't understand how that can be allowed to happen. What is up with Huffer and Silver-bolt, I wonder? Starscream's survival was so predictable, and as for poor Grotesque shame on you Grimlock! In some cases the art goes from stunning to sketchy in the space of 1 panel such as one with Grimlock in the foreground and the other Dinos in the background And yes, predictable and shameful...
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Post by The Huff on Dec 11, 2012 14:17:31 GMT
That was the best drawing ever of Sludge though - never seen him stand up like that before. Really made me laugh!
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 15, 2012 20:10:08 GMT
Thought the Prime/Megatron conclusion was handled alright, barring one bum note. What was the point of Ratchet being there at all? I mean from a dramatic standpoint it was a complete waste. If Ratchet and Megatron were still bonded at such a deep level, then why not have that as part of the story, it's Ratchet that makes Megatron hesitate long enough for Prime to deliver the fatal blow.
The latest part is much more interesting and it's good to see Scorponok again, and I'm glad we are not getting any retreads of the Zarak/Scorponok characterisation. THis one is a villain and I'm happy with that. Grimlock is going to make the same mistake he made when he took Nucleon in the first place.
I predict similarly dire results.
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