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Post by primenova on Oct 24, 2011 11:53:22 GMT
I was going to add this to my other thread - but having loose limbs can't be classed as a disappointment after 25 years when this one is about a Transformers toy you've expect to be cool but is rubbish when you first get it fresh out the box.
I'm sure everyone is thinking of the same Transformers.
When you first see the photo of him drawn in comic form he looks cool - then you see the toy & say - I want that micromaster.
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Post by primenova on Oct 24, 2011 13:32:10 GMT
This is one - not about the toy itself . but how Hasbro didn't use the compartments on the Dinobots toys for weapon storage. I'm sure everyone had a friend who had Slag & put small guns inside him - but the Dinobots had nowhere to put their guns & swords. Maybe something for a Universe Dinobots line?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2011 13:36:02 GMT
Pete: The compartments on the Dinobots are for their Diaclone pilots. (http://www.diaclone.net/orid/list.html and search for DINOSAUR ROBO) Aside from the toys inherited from Microchange weapons storage on a toy was virtually non existant pre Beast Wars.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2011 13:42:14 GMT
BIGGEST DISAPPOINTMENTS:
Energon Mega-Dinobot
Universe II Cheetor, Dinobot, Smokescreen, Ratchet, Ironhide & Hotshot
ROTF Leader Op & Jetfire
The Classics Minicons
Beast Machines Mega & Supreme Cheetor
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Post by Stomski on Oct 24, 2011 13:48:03 GMT
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2011 14:05:53 GMT
What was wrong with the Classics Minicons? I don't recall them being especially disappointing?
Agree on the rest though. I'd almost purged my mind of Mega Dinobot. Probably one of the biggest hype-to-letdowns ever
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Post by Nigel on Oct 24, 2011 15:01:14 GMT
PCC five-packs - no more articulated than the Special Teams twenty-five years earlier and the drones don't transform.
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2011 15:01:41 GMT
Pete: The compartments on the Dinobots are for their Diaclone pilots. (http://www.diaclone.net/orid/list.html and search for DINOSAUR ROBO) Aside from the toys inherited from Microchange weapons storage on a toy was virtually non existant pre Beast Wars. It did puzzle me why Hasbro didn't use the little diaclone pilots anyway. All removing them did was lose play value, nothing was really gained by not including them. Hasbro made up the fiction themselves, they weren't restrained into not including them. They could have been little robot drivers or something fiction wise (they certainly looked more robotic than person-like!) |
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Post by primenova on Oct 24, 2011 15:47:26 GMT
Pete: The compartments on the Dinobots are for their Diaclone pilots. (http://www.diaclone.net/orid/list.html and search for DINOSAUR ROBO) Aside from the toys inherited from Microchange weapons storage on a toy was virtually non existant pre Beast Wars. I know that - but Hasbro could have used that feature to have fold away guns for the toys. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2011 16:03:17 GMT
What was wrong with the Classics Minicons? I don't recall them being especially disappointing? They are compared with the Armada ones. Pete: The compartments on the Dinobots are for their Diaclone pilots. (http://www.diaclone.net/orid/list.html and search for DINOSAUR ROBO) Aside from the toys inherited from Microchange weapons storage on a toy was virtually non existant pre Beast Wars. I know that - but Hasbro could have used that feature to have fold away guns for the toys. But the toys already have their weapons. Weapons storage on the toy just isn't an issue back in 84. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2011 18:06:38 GMT
MP01 Optimus Prime. Looked so good in pictures but was no fun to play with and the vehicle mode was bobbins.
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 24, 2011 18:54:13 GMT
Almost the entire Armada line. On first sight I liked the basic look of them, but then I opened them.
The previous 10 years had been a fantastic period for Transformers. From some of the best G1 bricks (Rotorstorm) and lightpiping, through G2 introducing articulation and Beast Wars going full on ball and socket joints and all the rest that came up till RID.
Armada offered non of that or at least not enough.
Classic Rodimus is the only other one I can think of were I had expected better.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2011 19:10:41 GMT
MP01 Optimus Prime. Looked so good in pictures but was no fun to play with and the vehicle mode was bobbins. -Ralph I nearly mentioned the giant paper weight but I know he has his fans |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2011 7:10:55 GMT
RID ULTRA ******* MAGNUS.
-Ralph
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Post by primenova on Oct 25, 2011 8:26:00 GMT
RID ULTRA ******* MAGNUS. -Ralph Keep him transformed - he is better at carrying 3 cars than the original where they do fall off the top if you have an uneven surface. Star Convoy - once you see the toy, you only want to get it for Hot Rodimus. SC is just brick like. Maybe if we have an updated release? |
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Post by Stomski on Oct 25, 2011 9:04:20 GMT
Insanity in this thread.
RiD Ultra Magnus is a frickin' awesome. The multiple sounds depending on the combination is well executed, especially when combined with Prime to Omega Supreme.
And MP01 getting slated? What the heck are you expecting? It's a collector's grade toy, large quantity of die cast, so of course it will be heavy. Robot mode is a little blocky, but Prime *is* blocky!
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Post by blueshift on Oct 25, 2011 9:28:34 GMT
I have to agree, RID Magnus is awesome. Ralph you are captain wrong.
To the moon with you!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 25, 2011 10:43:57 GMT
Star Convoy is fabulous, how can you not love him?
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Post by Stomski on Oct 25, 2011 12:23:13 GMT
Star Convoy is fabulous, how can you not love him? I would like him a lot more if his head wasn't visible in base mode. Also, compare the robot to the box artwork! That is one dynamic looking picture showing off all kinds of articulation. Open him up and, oh. And this is coming from someone who *likes* Star Convoy. |
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Post by primenova on Oct 25, 2011 12:37:22 GMT
Star Convoy is fabulous, how can you not love him? I would like him a lot more if his head wasn't visible in base mode. Also, compare the robot to the box artwork! That is one dynamic looking picture showing off all kinds of articulation. Open him up and, oh. And this is coming from someone who *likes* Star Convoy. A redo of the toy would look awesome - we all love how StarConvoy looks on the box, Takara now have the design tech to make him a real toy & solve all his problems. They can do soem liek how we had the 25th an toys but to be 25th an for Japan only line. But then Hot Rodimus 'll be rubbish - like how the Armada Hotshot swapped round on the redo toy. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2011 17:21:18 GMT
And MP01 getting slated? What the heck are you expecting? A fun toy. I did not enjoy playing with it so got shot of it. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 25, 2011 18:07:26 GMT
Is the Burns opinion on Ultra Magnus online anywhere?
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Post by legios on Oct 25, 2011 19:32:57 GMT
I would have to say that Masterpiece Primes is the biggest sense of dissappointment I have had when I first saw him - he looks very nice as long as he is sitting in a pose on the shelf but the transformation isn't fun, it literally feels like work to transform him and in fact when I was fiddling about with him (actually Ralph's one, whilst convincing myself that I definitely didn't want one) I passed him over and said "would you mind finishing it off?" because I had lost interest in the process of transforming him.
I own lots of complicated transforming mecha, but even when they are complex there is an elegance in the way they come together that MP Prime (someone needs to do us a picture of Prime with the white helmet, belt, and armbands to go with that term) seems to lack. He is just complicated and finicky and unfun to transform.
He also has a truly hideous misshapen mess of a vehicle mode, like someone was trying to get close to the original version without paying much attention to the actual shape or proportions of it.
Karl
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Post by primenova on Oct 27, 2011 13:47:41 GMT
Star Convoy is fabulous, how can you not love him? I would like him a lot more if his head wasn't visible in base mode. Also, compare the robot to the box artwork! That is one dynamic looking picture showing off all kinds of articulation. Open him up and, oh. And this is coming from someone who *likes* Star Convoy. they could redo him as a headmaster if they can't find somewhere to hind his head in base mode. But not in the "just click the head down" way that Energon Optimus Prime & I think Cybertron too? Ball joints tech would make Star Convoy look cool. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2011 15:12:13 GMT
ROTF Devastator :/ Initial reports of a 2 foot tall combining Goliath. Hopes of 6 or 7 individually transforming figures, combining into the most awesome Gestalt EVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. And then the 1st pictures of the overpriced Playschool, My First Combiner. SOBS |
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Post by primenova on Oct 28, 2011 9:11:35 GMT
At least they did try with the legends one - but still not right.
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Post by Stomski on Oct 28, 2011 9:51:37 GMT
I dunno, for it's size I think the legends figure is pretty great!
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Post by primenova on Oct 28, 2011 13:51:09 GMT
I'm after picking it up anyway - the legends set not the brick set. But there's bound to be lots of thigns they need to improve on it - seeing its a 2000 series toy not 1980 one.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2011 15:55:14 GMT
At least they did try with the legends one - but still not right. But why could they have not done this with the Supreme figure. All that extra size to fit the engineering into would have allowed for decent individually transforming figures with an interesting and probably more movie accurate combined figure. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Nov 1, 2011 10:09:23 GMT
Classics Ratchet and Ironhide. Messy over-complicated ugly rubbish. So disappointed.
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