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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 5, 2013 23:15:04 GMT
Lost Liefield issue of New Mutants I love me some early Liefield. And it turns out there's an unpublished New Mutants fill in issue he did: robliefeldcreations.com/?p=3013 |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 6, 2013 11:44:16 GMT
Likewise.
Looks decent enough.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 6, 2013 13:55:00 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 6, 2013 21:52:31 GMT
Is it just me, or does his pencils look a lot better than the inked pages?
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 6, 2013 23:10:13 GMT
I think the answer can be found in the text of the first link. An old inking adversary of mine is mentioned.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 6, 2013 23:12:58 GMT
Ah Milgrom.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 6, 2013 23:26:26 GMT
I'd lay money on that being the answer
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 6, 2013 23:29:21 GMT
Yeah, looks heavy enough to be his work, Williamson was much more deft and delicate.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 3, 2013 16:06:52 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 12, 2013 16:32:08 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 12, 2013 17:41:56 GMT
I hope it is extreeeeeeeme! And lots of pockets!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 13, 2013 20:46:36 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 15, 2013 22:28:14 GMT
I still have a fondness for X-Force 1.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 16, 2013 15:48:04 GMT
I think the New Mutants issues in the run up are far better.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 16, 2013 17:14:52 GMT
Oh, both are poo!
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Sept 16, 2013 22:58:28 GMT
I just recently read the first premiere classic HC collecting the New Mutants issues, found it quite good fun and have the next volume rounding off NM and staring X-Force lined up.
I read X-Force #1 for the first time as part of the Marvel Firsts digital thing and thought it really wasn't all that bad.
-Jim
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 17, 2013 17:51:50 GMT
While there are many flaws to the Liefeld art, I do find his work up to the early Youngblood stuff a lot of fun.
Andy
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Post by Jim on Sept 17, 2013 23:38:43 GMT
It is quite fun; I didn't even really notice most of the flaws people love to point out while reading it - it was easy on the eye and flowed just fine. I don't find unrealistic anatomy to be such a problem (how often do you see Mignola or Kieth taken to task for that?), it's mostly that he isn't consistent within his own style.
That said, the first Liefeld comic I read was when I got back from my "break" from US comics just after the start of Heroes Reborn - and that was just dreadful, coloured my opinion of him for a long time.
-Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 18, 2013 7:59:31 GMT
People will moan about Liefield but what they forget was how horrible New Mutants was before he arrived.
The last issues of the Blevins/Simonson run are dire. Truly. Blevins style never really did it for me, and though I'm starting to see something in the earlier issues the later ones (Inferno onwards) still look awful to my eye. You can find his art in the Mutant Massacre(he draws some of X-Men 211 trying to ape JRjr and you can tell which panels) Fall of the Mutants and Inferno. Oddly the rest of his run with Louise S is the only New Mutants issues which haven't been collected.
Liefield injected energy and dynamism into the title and made it something really worth reading again. Breath of fresh air.
In the 80s X-Men, New Mutants and X-Factor were top of the pile for Marvel and for a long while each title really deserved better art teams than they had. It's only with the arrival of Lee, then Liefield and finally Portacio that they look good again. Go read Xtinction Agenda and compare the issues drawn by Lee and Liefield (though he's not at his best here) with the other artists. Chalk and Cheese.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 18, 2013 8:04:48 GMT
IIRC the end of Simonson/Blevins run is an overlong story set in Asgard basically leaching off the NM Special Edition/X-Men annual 9. I'll look up how long it was but it was running when I quit the title and they were just returning from there when Liefields run started
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Post by Philip Ayres on Feb 28, 2014 18:35:05 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 12, 2014 6:24:22 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 14, 2014 16:33:54 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jul 14, 2014 21:21:25 GMT
I saw.
I didn't bother reading the comments though.
He's just such an easy target for the mouthbreathers it's not even funny anymore.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 16, 2014 19:01:11 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 26, 2014 15:54:25 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 28, 2014 15:08:40 GMT
People are nuts. These comics are bargain bin fodder at conventions/stores EVERYWHERE!
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 26, 2015 12:10:38 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 26, 2015 13:18:00 GMT
Phil! I saw the thread title and thought he had died!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 26, 2015 13:22:45 GMT
You do that every time I bounce a comic creator's thread!
Lost count of the number of time's I've killed Nick!
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