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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Jan 20, 2017 20:32:56 GMT
Oh, how loose are we playing with it? Can I have Energon Tidal Wave?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 20:38:40 GMT
If you want. It is three ships combined.
(further demonstrating "What is a combiner?")
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Jan 20, 2017 21:35:35 GMT
5: ROTF Superion. It's far too small and fiddly to the point where I might actually hate it. However I don't have enough experience of the other lines between G1 and movies so it's in by default.
4: ROTF Devastator. A bit better but I enjoy the individual modes more than I do the ugly mound they mold into.
3: 2010 Piranacon. It's quite fun.
2: Micromaster Devastator. Really great little toy that captured the fun of the original line. Plus mind came in job lot of minicons and Micromasters that cost about £3 so was a total bargain.
1: Energon Tidal Wave / Armada Shockwave. An amazing toy. Simple, fun, imposing and full of surprises. I can never decide if I prefer it in the mental translucent green and black of Energon Tidalwave or the gorgeous and subtle purple and grey of Armada Shockwave.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:30:32 GMT
PHIL!!!
No-one ever thinks of just two Transformers as a combiner! Next you'll be saying Duocons are a Combiner but they are not: they are Duocons!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:32:23 GMT
PHIL!!! This category does not exist. You just made this up. No-one thinks: "Ah! I enjoy this combiner from between Special Teams and Combiner Wars!" -Ralph It exists purely because we've done Scramble City and will (extensively) do CW. It exist purposely to look in between the two real high points of combining. Godfire Convoy is not a combiner!!! -Ralph It's two Transformer toys combined together..... .....providing you cant TF both of them of course ;-) But you prove my above point about "what is a combiner?" Is there a line drawn somewhere? PHIL!!!! NO NO NO. There is no such thing as two high points between combining. There were Micromaster Combiners about ten years ago, Energon combiners, etc. This is not a category!!! No!!! *pounds ground* I DENY THIS CATEGORY!!! -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:35:56 GMT
If you want. It is three ships combined. (further demonstrating "What is a combiner?") NOOOOOOO!!!! Tidal Wave is NOT a £"$$"£$£" combiner! I know. Hang on. *attaches milk carton to toaster* Look I have made a combiner. TOP 5 COMBINERS THAT AREN'T SCRAMBLE CITY (WHICH ARE ACTUALLY CALLED SPECIAL TEAMS! PHIL) AND COMBINER WARS: 1: Goat and backpack. 2: Milk carton and toaster. 3: Dishwasher and suspicious lump of cheese. 4: The madness of Phil and this thread. 5: A spanner and a confused dentist. -Ralph
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Jan 20, 2017 22:37:26 GMT
No, don't take this away from me. Please.........
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 22:38:33 GMT
PHIL!!! No-one ever thinks of just two Transformers as a combiner! Next you'll be saying Duocons are a Combiner but they are not: they are Duocons!!! -Ralph OK then are Darkwing & Dreadwind a combiner? Magmatron, as above? Tidal Wave? Tidal Wave + Megatron? Victory Sabre? God Ginrai? A Optimus Prime + Jetfire + Overload? E Optimus? E Optimus Prime + Wing Sabre? E Optimus + Omega Supreme? C Optimus + Leobreaker? C Optimus + Wing Sabre? PCC?
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:40:35 GMT
N O NO NO!!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 22:42:52 GMT
No, don't take this away from me. Please......... It's alright, Burns is not in charge here, I am! If Magmatron stands from earlier then Tidal Wave must too!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 22:44:09 GMT
So which do you think is a combiner and which isn't?
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:45:43 GMT
No, don't take this away from me. Please......... It's alright, Burns is not in charge here, I am! If Magmatron stands from earlier then Tidal Wave must too! This thread has reached new levels of madness. What next? Zebras are horses? -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:46:09 GMT
So which do you think is a combiner and which isn't? None of them are Combiners. -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 20, 2017 22:46:25 GMT
I am dangling on the edge of oblivion!
-Ralph
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Post by Benn on Jan 20, 2017 22:47:52 GMT
I stand with Ralph on this.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 23:12:44 GMT
You're only saying that cos Ed wanted Magmatron!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 23:14:09 GMT
So which do you think is a combiner and which isn't? None of them are Combiners. -Ralph So how do you define a combiner then?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 20, 2017 23:14:42 GMT
I knew this would happen!
We had Top 5 combiners down on the list to do for ages before I thought better of it!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 21, 2017 9:23:18 GMT
Are two members of Multiforce a combiner?
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 21, 2017 9:35:53 GMT
None of them are Combiners. -Ralph So how do you define a combiner then? The way they have been defined for 33 years!!! -Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 21, 2017 9:36:27 GMT
Are two members of Multiforce a combiner? NO. -Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 21, 2017 9:47:52 GMT
Are Six Members of Multiforce a combiner?
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Post by Kingoji on Jan 21, 2017 10:33:16 GMT
Unless Magmatron counts, I never had any. What?!?!?!?! Well, after Beast Wars and until Animated, my collecting of TF toys pretty much stopped aside from reissues. It resumed with classics and decent homages, so it wasn't really until CW that I got any new (post G1) gestalt. So, like, Magmatron and Safeguard I guess are the closest, and I'm loathe to include Safeguard cuz it was shite.
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Post by Benn on Jan 21, 2017 10:54:49 GMT
You're only saying that cos Ed wanted Magmatron! No, I have no anti-Magmatron bias! A combiner has to be at least three individual robots/characters with distinct robot and alt modes, who combine with each other to form a larger robot. Road Ceasar is, the Requiem Blaster isn't, for example. Energon Prime and the PCC's are not combiners, they are robots who enhance themselves with drones. By my definition, I'll admit the PCC are a grey area, but in my head they aren't combiners. Others may come down on the other side of that. Energon Powerlinxing isn't combining, Animated Safeguard isn't. Energon Superion and Bruticus are. The Beast Wars Tripredacus and such are.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 21, 2017 11:27:25 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 21, 2017 11:30:08 GMT
*ccccrrrzzzzzzzzt*
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 21, 2017 11:51:40 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 22, 2017 21:15:42 GMT
Close reading shows the term is in dispute!
Now, Phil, let us consider COMBINER FORCE toys. Many of them do not combine but the packaging says COMBINER FORCE. So is Warrior CF Starscream a combiner then?
-Ralph
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Jan 22, 2017 22:06:42 GMT
No, because the list is for post G1 and pre-CW.
In terms of the figure and broader term itself, does anything actually connect to it or is it just a sort of cash in on the CW cartoon?
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 22, 2017 22:26:58 GMT
Ok I'm running naked down my High Street right now, spanking my own arse and singing "Combiner Wars are here again!".......
(out of maddness 'n'that...)
WHAT's a Combiner...?
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