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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 24, 2017 8:23:18 GMT
Sits down with cup of tea...... Tell me why it's Shockwave Ralph.......
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 24, 2017 8:27:25 GMT
Modern updates of toys that were originally Diaclone? -Jim Interesting fact: 18 Diaclone cars were originally done in Transformers. Off the top of my head I can think of at least seven more colours of Diaclone car that have had a TF remake!
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 24, 2017 11:47:08 GMT
Dinobot.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 24, 2017 15:07:21 GMT
I wish I could tell if Ralph's guesses are genuine. Months of animorphs always has me scratching my head.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 24, 2017 15:32:35 GMT
My guesses are always genuine!
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 24, 2017 15:46:35 GMT
Am I remembering right something about Shockwave clones in the Movie?
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 24, 2017 20:34:43 GMT
This is what he should be called from now on... O'Ralph.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 24, 2017 21:10:59 GMT
Top o'tha mornin' ta ya.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 24, 2017 21:15:52 GMT
I don't see the resemblance.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 25, 2017 7:22:17 GMT
O'My goodness!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2017 7:39:40 GMT
Week 225: Diaclone Car RemakesYour top 5 remakes of Diaclone cars in Transformers! For the record the original Diaclone cars are: Bluestreak Hound Jazz Mirage Ratchet Sideswipe
Ironhide Prowl Sunstreaker Trailbreaker Wheeljack
Grapple Hoist Inferno Red Alert Skids Smokescreen Tracks So we're looking for new versions of these toys, not reissues. They've been done in various forms in Classic Pretenders, Action Masters, Alternators, Generations, Combiner Wars and as homages in several other lines. In addition several of these have alternate colour schemes in Diaclone that have since been adopted as differently named Transformers in these lines. I leave identifying them as an exercise for the reader....
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2017 8:09:30 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2017 11:52:52 GMT
Diaclones aren't clones!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 12:22:29 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2017 12:50:07 GMT
I think I did know that from somewhere....
Have you picked the Diaclone book up yet, it's fab!
I know my top 2, probably 3, for this week but sorting the rest out is hard. VERY hard. Large field and the top entries set the bar very very high.
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 13:17:05 GMT
No, I missed the book after dithering when it was first available to pre-order, and think it's pretty much sold out now?
I am similarly fairly confident about my top 2 but after that...
-Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 25, 2017 13:44:38 GMT
This is what he should be called from now on... O'Ralph. Surely O'Ralph is some sort of mad Tons of Fun/ The Doctor crossbreed?
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 15:10:36 GMT
Week 225: Diaclone Car RemakesYour top 5 remakes of Diaclone cars in Transformers! 5. Classics Mirage - great way to update a character, probably the best of the original Classics line 4. United Wheeljack - while United Tracks is great, the mould suits Wheeljack better 3. BT Tracks (blue) - can't speak for the Alternator, but the hefty, metallic Binaltech version is a lovely design 2. United Stepper - RTS Jazz was already great; United Jazz an improvement; but in black and gold as Stepper it's something special 1. MP Bluestreak - the MP Datsun mould is great, but as the long-awaited blue Bluestreak it is amazing -Jim
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 25, 2017 16:57:01 GMT
5. Classics Mirage - great way to update a character, probably the best of the original Classics line *adds to recently constructed list of classics purchases*
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2017 17:06:56 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 25, 2017 17:08:28 GMT
But is a 'Diaclone remake' an updating of the original *toy mould* with that in mind as an inspiration or any other version of that *character*?
-The Ralphyard
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 20:18:33 GMT
But is a 'Diaclone remake' an updating of the original *toy mould* with that in mind as an inspiration or any other version of that *character*? -The Ralphyard I hesitated to include Stepper for this reason, then decided that since the original Jazz is identical to the Diaclone Porsche release (afaik), you can argue that Stepper is just as much a Diaclone import as Jazz (though retooled slightly as well as redecoed). I don't know, Phil is the ultimate arbiter of this! -Jim
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 20:22:15 GMT
5. Classics Mirage - great way to update a character, probably the best of the original Classics line *adds to recently constructed list of classics purchases* Good choice! What else is on the list? Hard to believe that was a decade ago; have we had a Top 5 for that line? -Jim
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Post by Jim on Aug 25, 2017 20:23:54 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 26, 2017 9:51:19 GMT
Good choice! What else is on the list? Quick explanation - I absolutely hated the look of the Universe figures when they started up fifteen years ago. I was in that mindset that saw the ad hoc reassigning of G1 names to ill-fitting moulds as being wrong, and that led to me totally ignoring anything to do with that in preference for the fun stuff like Unicron Trilogy/Animated, Binaltech and then Masterpiece. The classics stuff left me cold too so I ignored that and didn't get into this heritage line stuff until I really got into the games and started buying the FoC Generations figures because they at least had a deliberately different aesthetic. I've been buying Generations stuff since then because the figures I felt really improved, and Prime Wars has given me a shot at trying to get a modern/decent articulated figure for almost all of the old 84-87 G1 toys, which is my real focus of interest. But I realised recently that while I was being snobbish and ignoring Classics/Universe 2 and the first few Generations figures I was missing some legitimately good toys, and so at present am on a mission to work out which characters have better pre-Thrilling 30 figures than the more recent ones. It was Generations Wheeljack that started me on this, which I'd been looking at a while before finding one on the ToyFu stall at TFN. That was a real slap in the face. Brilliant toy, SO much better than the CW limb, so I bought Turbo Tracks straight away off eBay and am now seeking advice from chums on which other toys I've missed that are better than more recent ones. The list, based on what people have said here, is Generations Deluxe Warpath, RTS Jazz, Universe Cyclonus, Hound and I'm also very intrigued by Classics Sideswipe and Sunstreaker, and now Mirage. I was doing some reading on how all these lines fit together yesterday. My god this used to be so complicated with the way Classics/Universe2/Hunt for the Decepticons/Reveal the Shield etc etc all bled into each other. At least these days it's more simple. I also, by coincidence, re-read All Hail Megatron this week and can see that most of the character designs in that reflect the new moulds that came out at that point. So, err, back on topic, I must use this top five thread as a reference point for looking back at peoples' faves from the older lines.
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Post by Jim on Aug 26, 2017 10:21:50 GMT
Warpath, Jazz, Cyclonus and Hound (w Ravage!) are all top toys; Hound is probably my favourite from that list, he has a lot of character. I've never had much time for the Sideswipe/Sunstreaker mould but it has lots of fans.
Some of the Legends are worth seeking out too; I prefer the Universe Warpath and Cosmos Legends toys to the recent releases.
-Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2017 11:36:44 GMT
Both the Universe Legend (Legion) and Generations Deluxe Warpath are amazing. Fabulous toys.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2017 11:42:45 GMT
5. Classics Mirage - great way to update a character, probably the best of the original Classics line *adds to recently constructed list of classics purchases* I miss my Classics Mirage. Frequntly get tempted to buy a new one.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 26, 2017 11:46:30 GMT
The robot mode does look unusual, but then Mirage is quite an unusual character.
I could probably go with either Warpath, but he feels like he ought to be a deluxe to me, despite his minibot position. I forgot I also need the Universe/Classic whatever it was Legend/Legion (what?!) tank Megatron to add to my growing tankotron collection. He looks rather cool for a tiddler.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 26, 2017 11:50:41 GMT
The Megatron Legend (Legion) tank is really good. He was the best Legend for a few months till Warpath happened.
Shouldn't be hard to find one cheap
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