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Post by Benn on Jan 10, 2014 14:30:04 GMT
Hmmm... Shockwave Shockwave Shockwave...
5. Shockblast - Looks fun, and very very close in looks. Never owned, or even seen. 4. Original - Only reason he's way way down is that I've never owned him. 3. Laserwave - Remold of Alternator Jazz. I really liked this guy, he's had the best Shockwave head I've seen, and he is so very very posable. 2. Animated - Fun little begger. Loses points for having two arms. Even in the fiction, he's been the best Shockwave since G1 1. Action Master - Only UK available G1 Shockwave right? Looks right, points his gun arm appropriatly meanacingly.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2014 21:08:42 GMT
1. Knights Morpher Cyclops. I passed him up at Auto Assembly and regretted it. WhenI finally got him over a year later I was impressed by his aura of sheer dangerous menace. Technically he's not Shockwave (the accompanying comic actually makes him out to be a construct harbouring part of his creator's personality), but he does scale well with MPs.
2. WFC Shockwave. Probably the best of that first wave, very good articulation and an all-round fun figure.
3. Voyager (in G1 colours from his lab set). Portrays the bulk I quite enjoy from Prime.
4. Action Master Shockwave. Played the **** out of this as a kid.
5. G1... The original rare Transformer.
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Post by Jim on Jan 10, 2014 23:43:16 GMT
Week 36: ShockwaveYour top 5 Shockwave toys please. For the purposes of this Top 5 we'll also accept toys named Shockblast as they're meant to be Shockwave! 1. Action Master - not just great for being the only UK release of the character (and an Action Master!) but it's a great sculpt as well with a fun partner. Love that a non-Transforming toy of a character that turns into a gun sports a safety-orange gun barrel. 2. Botshots (2013) - I prefer this one over the first release, a bit more fun and a bit more character. Those are the two I've owned. Botshots would probably be beaten into third place, but I'd still rate it highly on this list as a fun toy. 3. G1 - never seen one IRL, but he looks great in photos. 4. BH Cyberverse Commander - did the two-pack with the insecticon repaint ever make it out here? I remember thinking he looked good and that I'd pick it up if I saw it. 5. Generations - actually I did own this, but found the vehicle mode lacking and along with the limited posability and the fally-offy gun arm I didn't bother hanging on to it. Not a terrible toy, but Shockers deserves better. -Jim
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Post by Bogatan on Jan 11, 2014 0:20:55 GMT
My list stands but I admit I had forgotten about Animated and Alternators. Really there hasn't been a bad go at Shockwave has there.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 11, 2014 7:42:48 GMT
4. BH Cyberverse Commander - did the two-pack with the insecticon repaint ever make it out here? I remember thinking he looked good and that I'd pick it up if I saw it. Nope he didn't. Our US Agent has picked one up for me along with the missing Legion 2 pack
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2014 14:41:57 GMT
The only true Shockwave is Action Master Shockwave.
3p don't count as they are not actual Shockwave toys, sorry.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 17:12:32 GMT
3p don't count as they are not actual Shockwave toys, sorry. -Ralph Ohhhh not happy about that! I may rebel! REBEL!!! Who's with me, Quakewave Owners Club members?!?!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2014 17:16:53 GMT
Quakewave is a fine toy, but it is not a 'Transformer'. Sorry!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 17:28:57 GMT
But he transforms!
And he's Shockwave!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2014 17:51:35 GMT
He is a transforming toy, but is not made as a 'Transformer' by Hasbro, Takara or Tomy and his name isn't Shockwave.
I HAVE SPOKEN.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 11, 2014 18:13:36 GMT
He is a transforming toy, but is not made as a 'Transformer' by Hasbro, Takara or Tomy and his name isn't Shockwave. I HAVE SPOKEN. -Ralph Indeed.
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 11, 2014 19:10:34 GMT
Just read those posts with the inner monologue, "Yes, you're absolutely right Shockprowl. Yes, you're absolutely right Doctor. Yes, you're absolutely right Shockprowl. Yes, you're absolutely right Doctor."
Fzzzzzztttt-ccrrrrrrrkkk...
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 19:15:04 GMT
HasTakTomy make Transformers toys, of course they do, they own the brand, the franchise. But surely, brothers, after all these years, after all the support, the fan-fiction, the dreams, surely the essence of what is 'Transformers' does not lay solely with the manufacturers, but with us, it's fans, who have followed the characters they love for years, surely we have just as much right to 'The Transformers' as HasTakTomy? If HasTakTomy stopped making Transformers toys tomorrow, would The Transformers die? No! NOOO!!! They'd live! LIVE!!! We, my Cyber-brothers, we ARE The Transformers!!!!!!!
(I knew I should have gone into politics)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 11, 2014 19:19:11 GMT
It does fail the basic test of his name not been Shockwave/Shockblast.
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 11, 2014 19:20:03 GMT
Yes, you're absolutely right Shockprowl.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 19:37:51 GMT
It does fail the basic test of his name not been Shockwave/Shockblast. The figure is suppose to be Shockwave. There cannot be any doubt over who the figure is meant to represent. Magnificent one eyed purpleness.
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 19:39:41 GMT
Yes, you're absolutely right Shockprowl. Thank you, brother! Fellow owner of the dream that is 'Transformers'!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2014 20:35:14 GMT
It is not Shockwave.
OVER RULED.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 11, 2014 21:13:44 GMT
Don't be a slave to the Manufacturing Monopoly, brother!
You know I'm right (I was right about The Sentry!).
Help me out, Nickos!
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 11, 2014 22:33:10 GMT
JUSTICE.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Jan 12, 2014 7:26:34 GMT
Let's discuss this. I feel I've made a pretty good, and indeed heart-felt, argument for the Quakewave representation of Shockwave to be included. What's the counter argument? Surely not just "it's not Hasbro/Takara"? I've made a good counter argument against that.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 12, 2014 8:37:59 GMT
NO
And besides it's a name week.... and that toy isn't named Shockwave/Shockblast.
I said you could include them *IF* you nominated an official toy as well.
Nick will be along shortly I hope to nominate a toy named Shockwave everyone else forgot about!
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Post by kayevcee on Jan 12, 2014 9:21:30 GMT
I like Quakewave.
-Nick
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 12, 2014 9:37:07 GMT
Quakewave is nice, but he is not a Transformer toy. He is a transforming robot toy. A distinction of trademark, copyright and ownership but an important distinction nevertheless.
While I would argue he is an impressive representation of the Shockwave character, having fiddled with Nick's, he is not a Transformer.
UBERGODMOD has spoken.
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Post by kayevcee on Jan 12, 2014 9:52:36 GMT
Okay, okay. Seriously now...
5) FOC Shockwave: a clever and fun-looking figure, let down by being tiny. Only intimidating to Legends. 4) Animated Shockwave (purple 2-pack variant): A fun and very ambitious figure, even if his head is on sideways. 3) Action Master Shockwave: the first official Shockwave released in the UK and a figure that saw a lot of use in young Nick's household. He had one of the best partners too. 2) 1985 Shockwave: Completely unlike anything else in the line at the time. Huge, powerful, intimidating. A great roleplay toy and an imposing figure, only let down by the lack of forward shoulder articulation. If Ban Dai could do it for Jetfire, ToyCo could have done it for Astro Magnum.
Honestly, I was going to put Quake Wave as my #1 since it is my favourite Shockwave toy, just edging out the original. However, in the interests of public order I'll simply leave the top spot unfilled. Honorable mention to Astro Magnum, who was my first Shockwave and by far the version I played with most as a child. It was also a third party toy.
-Nick
EDIT: Missing an apostrophe-S there, Andy. I hope.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jan 12, 2014 10:03:16 GMT
Well I can confirm you are not a Transformer so my typo was technically accurate.
Andy
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Post by Pinwig on Jan 12, 2014 10:50:17 GMT
I spent a surprising amount of time in bed last night drifting off to sleep thinking about this issue and eventually came down to one simple fact. Back in the day, my knock off Shockwave did sit in the same collection as my other Transformers, but he was always on the subs bench along with Omegatron and eventually got taken apart in a fit of childish curiosity because he ‘didn’t matter’. I never saw him as being a ‘proper’ Transformer, despite the fact he was from the same mould as the real one and as far as I could see was differentiated only by the fact he lacked a Decepticon badge. So if I apply that logic here within the constraints of the actual question, Quakewave can’t count.
However, I would say that Quakewave is by far and away the best representation of this character in any form ever. He is absolutely superb and would top not only my Shockwave list if allowed, but also any other top five Transformer lists he would be allowed on. So like Kayevcee, he is only not there for the sake of harmony. I’m not deserting the cause Shockprowl, there is certainly a separate discussion about what constitutes a real transformer. I saw that hideous £30 Optimus in Tesco again yesterday. That has the Hasbro name on the box, but it ain’t a Transformer in my eyes. Anyway:
5. - Animated. I did love this line and its anime stylings. It was a real breath of fresh air. The head is wrong, but apart from that aesthetically it’s an okay figure.
4. - Beast Hunters Commander. How amazing is this figure. This totally opened my eyes to the Commander scale figures, and he is still easily the most detailed and interesting to look at in that whole line. Only fourth because his bigger version is, well, bigger.
3. - Energon Shockblast. Apart from the green and the lack of a proper gun mode, this was the first time I had a figure in my hand that felt like a proper Shockwave. It looked right and gave me a rosy glow.
2. - Beast Hunters Voyager. I was genuinely surprised by how great this figure is. Of the variants I would go for the Takara colouring, but I only own the Hasbro original. I would love Dr Wu to do a proper Shockers head for this one like they did with the Primes, and the only other thing I would do is shrink his feet slightly. I think Shockwave benefits from weight, and when this one stomped out of the space bridge in the cartoon a shiver went up my spine so the fact the toy is one of the bulkiest Voyagers in this range works well. FoC Shockwave and his presence in the game totally ruined him. Hate that figure.
1. - The original. As said, I experienced this toy through a knock off in the 80s and his mystique at being an unobtainable has always kept him, along with his emphatic entrance into the comic, one of my all time favourite Transformers. As far as G1 goes, Shockwave and Soundwave define the Decepticons for me.
Final point - I am not even going to ask if Tidal Wave counts, because his link to Shockwave is probably more tenuous than Quakewave. However, despite his lack of a monocular head he would be 4 in my list because he’s brilliant.
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 12, 2014 12:09:11 GMT
There is probably scope for a Top 5 of 'third party toys based on official Transformers toys'. Phil?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 12, 2014 13:27:09 GMT
Indeed. I'll look at fitting that in as soon as possible.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jan 12, 2014 13:28:24 GMT
Nick has let me down by not voting for Micron Legend Shockwave!
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