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Post by legios on Aug 27, 2013 21:59:42 GMT
I don't know, maybe attitudes are different in Japan..... They seem to be using more modest vehicles for pursuit duty, like Skyline GTR's and Mazda RX-7's, so I suspect that the Countach is more a case of "movie style" policing than reality Wikipedia says that some Prefecture's use the current 350Z Fairlady (with a nice picture of one in Black-and-white to support the contention, so I'd speculate that they may well have used the contemporary Fairlady's back in the Diaclone days. Karl
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Post by Jaymz on Aug 27, 2013 23:31:57 GMT
Ok, so the police didn't get to keep the car, but it still existed with that paint job for a car show. Some fancy police vehicles are actually ones seized from drugs busts and the like. They keep them for police use instead of auctioning them off.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 28, 2013 6:27:12 GMT
I think there's a Lamboghini Police Car to vote for in this week's list..... But no Prowl.
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 28, 2013 17:17:16 GMT
NO PROWL?!?!?!?!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 28, 2013 17:31:36 GMT
You can't vote for Prowl every week, where's the fun in that?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 28, 2013 17:48:51 GMT
In fact the next oppotunity to vote for a Prowl isn't for another 7 weeks
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 28, 2013 22:15:17 GMT
You can't vote for Prowl every week, where's the fun in that? Prowl equals fun ('cept if you're a Decepticon, baby).
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 28, 2013 22:16:18 GMT
In fact the next oppotunity to vote for a Prowl isn't for another 7 weeks Madness.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2013 7:26:14 GMT
Content yourself with this little quiz on the subject: Of the original 18 Autobot cars, none are direct repaints. Of the six that resemble other all feature some modification be it a lightbar (Prowl, Ratchet, Red Alert), a spoiler (Smokescreen) or larger modification (Grapple and Hoist). But at some point 16 of the 18 have different coloured version. Which two haven't? The Car Robots section of the list on Diaclone.net should help you eliminate some of the 18. All 18 of the original Transformers cars come from Diaclone, and are the complete set of 12 Diaclone car molds. But there's three variations on the Diaclone car molds that weren't used in the original TFs (one has been subsequently). One involves a lightbar, two involve different heads, what are they?
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Post by kayevcee on Aug 29, 2013 8:56:30 GMT
Smokescreen was only available in traditional red & blue. The other was... Jazz?
Police Sunstreaker got a lightbar. Skids and Wheeljack had different heads that didn't make it to TF until eHobby Skids (Crosscut) in 2004.
Probably.
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 29, 2013 9:20:33 GMT
Jazz had Stepper or was that are mould for the targetmaster?
Otherwise I cant think of a repaint of Hoist.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2013 12:58:15 GMT
Smokescreen was only available in traditional red & blue. The other was... Jazz? Police Sunstreaker got a lightbar. Skids and Wheeljack had different heads that didn't make it to TF until eHobby Skids (Crosscut) in 2004. Probably. -Nick The second part is 100% correct Nick. Yes Smokescreen - Fairlady Z with Spoiler - has only been available in Red & Blue Jazz had Stepper or was that are mould for the targetmaster? Otherwise I cant think of a repaint of Hoist. Jazz had Stepper - which I think has a 5mm hole for the Targetmaster in the Spoiler - and G2 Jazz - a 3mm hole in the roof for the Snow Serpent launcher - but Jazz does have a completely original repaint E-Hobby Electrum JazzHoist has Diaclone repaints in Red & Blue: see www.diaclone.net/orid/dia043/index.html
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Post by kayevcee on Aug 29, 2013 15:59:46 GMT
I was just thinking about different coloured versions within Diaclone, and in that context there are more than two anyway. Oops!
Let's see...
Hound was done in beige as eHobby Detritus. Ratchet was done in green as Movie Ratchet. Bluestreak has his infamous "blue" recolour and eHobby "anime" style with the black hood. Sideswipe has also been Tigertrack, G2 Sideswipe and Diaclone black/Deepcover. Mirage was also done in red, in a giftset with Ultra Magnus and black Sideswipe. Jazz, as you say, was Stepper and G2 white with #1 livery.
Trailbreaker was also available in blue and yellow. Prowl has his crazy mostly-black "Policia" Mexican variant. Ironhide was black in Diaclone and eHobby. Wheeljack had his red Marlboro cousin with the different head. Sunstreaker also appeared in red and white "Police" variants.
Red Alert was eHobby'd as Clampdown. Inferno was Targetmastered as Artfire. Skids was Diacloned in red and silver with a different head, and has since appeared in silver, green and orangey red as Crosscut, Skids and Screech. Hoist was Diacloned in red and blue. Grapple was eHobby'd as Hauler in fetching green. Tracks had his famous red repaint, that showed up in eHobby as Road Rage. Smokescreen is covered.
I give up, Phil. I only count one. Am I wrong?
-Nick
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 29, 2013 16:47:40 GMT
Artfire would have been a remould, not just a recolour so is it Inferno?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2013 17:02:58 GMT
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 29, 2013 17:04:14 GMT
Honestly not sure, is there somewhere for the targetmaster to fit without a remould?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2013 17:04:48 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 29, 2013 17:08:40 GMT
The only ones I can't see on Nick's list are the Black Tracks, gold Chrome Jazz and silver Chrome Bluestreak. Clampdown is, like many of the e-Hobby colours, a prexisting Diaclone one
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Post by Bogatan on Aug 29, 2013 18:11:58 GMT
If you go into the world of South American repaints then theres also a few more the only one Im sure on is the trailbreaker in Hoist colours.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2013 8:03:40 GMT
Week 17: Repaints of Autobot Diaclone Cars that weren't sold 1984-1985So Last Week we voted on which of the 84/5 Diaclone toys were our favorites. This week we're voting on which of their repaints/remoulds are our favorites. Any repaint/remould of the original 18 Diaclone cars can be voted on whether it was dreamed up for Headmasters, G2 or an e-Hobby release. Since so many of them were used by e-Hobby I think it's only right we include all the Diaclone car versions even those that haven't been officially used by Transformers yet, so the Car Robots section of the list at Diaclone.net should prove useful. DO NOT VOTE FOR ANY OF THE 18 TOYS ISSUED AS TRANSFORMERS IN 1984/5!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2013 8:33:34 GMT
5) Black TracksChoice number five was really difficult as there's about half a dozen choices that I really liked: Red Tracks, Black Sideswipe, Police Car Sideswipe (Clampdown), Red Hoist, Blue Trailbreaker. But in the end I went for Black Tracks as those colours look so nice on the Tracks toy. IIRC there's a limited TF reissue version. 4) Red SunstreakerI'm of the opinion that Hasbro made a massive balls up when it came to Sideswipe and Sunstreaker: Sideswipe should be the red version of Sunstreaker and Sunstreaker should be the yellow version of Sideswipe, now called Tigertrack. Both the Countaches look better in Red than yellow. 3) Blue BluestreakI'm not a fan of Smokescreen: the colours are too busy for my liking. But the blue car, with the silver bonnet and white plastic just sings. Oddly reminiscent of Alternators Smokescreen now I think of it. How e-Hobby never did this when they did do Anime and Chrome Bluestreak I'll never know. 2) Black IronhideThe first on this list I have! I think Black suits Ironhide more than red, both on the toy and matching the name. When the chance came up to hold the e-Hobby version cheap I took it. Superb. (aside: BW Rhinox, with black beast mode, and red robot parts, as BW Ironhide?) 1) Sunstreaker Police CarIf I could have one Diaclone toy it would be this one. Beautiful. Looks fabulous in White & Black as a police car.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2013 12:57:55 GMT
If you go into the world of South American repaints then theres also a few more the only one Im sure on is the trailbreaker in Hoist colours. It's not actually a Trailbreaker, it's a Hoist with a green Trailbreaker head cause IGA didn't have a Hoist head mold Same way that their first release of Smokescreen was actually Bluestreak in Smokescreen colours. All of the Mexican variants were because of missing resources or last minute changes by Hasbro that were too late for IGA to change, like the 3rd year minis being completely changed in colour (Tailgate from yellow/red to white/blue and Hubcap from white to yellow for example). Either way IGA never had the retooled mini molds so had to just repaint the original molds.
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 30, 2013 21:48:52 GMT
G2 Sideswipe wins this round. With a mention for G2 Inferno because he is...RAINING PAIN!
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 30, 2013 21:57:24 GMT
I know very little about the Diaclone repaint world, so I'll list the ones I like that I'm aware of.
Black Hound always looked nice to me. Was there a black Hound or have I imagined it?
Police Sunstreaker. Yes this mould as a Police cars looks superb. Prowlstreaker!
Blue Bluestreak. I just think the character looks better in dark blue. It's how I remember him looking from my childhood.
Mexican Prowl. I honestly think Black Prowl looks freakin' brilliant!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2013 22:21:26 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 30, 2013 22:23:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 11:00:06 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 31, 2013 11:06:20 GMT
Those photos would suggest so yes, and I'd go with the missiles and gun being the same colour, but look at the box photo.
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Post by Jim on Aug 31, 2013 19:25:10 GMT
Week 17: Repaints of Autobot Diaclone Cars that weren't sold 1984-1985
In no particular order:
1. Crosscut - always love the Skids mould and this one comes with the scooter and gets an interesting bio to boot! I have narrowly missed owning one at least three times via eBay. 2. Black Ironhide - Like Phil says, the mould looks great in these colours. Got mine cheap as well, people don't even seem to go for exclusive repaints of that toy (Green Ratchet can be got at reasonable prices too). 3. Road Rage - Finally a real life incarnation of that 'bot on the '85 box mural (yes, I know it's the Diaclone version but for me it will always be that mysteriously unavailable Tracks repaint of my childhood)! Doubt I'll ever manage to own one but glad it exists. 4. Stepper - black and gold repaint of cool looking toy + targetmasterisation! Had to get the TFC reissue. These days I prefer the Jazz colours, but it still looks great (and United Stepper is a thing of beauty). 5. G2 Sideswipe - G2 version of one of my favourite car moulds. Really must get one.
-Jim
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Post by Shockprowl on Aug 31, 2013 19:41:25 GMT
Ahh! That's what I was thinking of!
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