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Post by Bogatan on Aug 31, 2013 19:59:10 GMT
5. Black Tracks, red Track, Police Red Alert, whatever sandy Hound is called. There are way to many repaints out there and in truth I havent paid enough attention, if I do I want them and cant have them so am sad. 4. Any of the Hoist repaints, I've never paid them much attention, but they do look great. 3. A black and gold Jazz with targetmaster blew my mind when I found out about it. The united version is indeed a thing of beauty. 2. Mock up G2 Sideswipe. Okay I know this a cheat, but I can't help the fact the the alternative G2 colour scheme is frickin amazing. Seriously considering a KO Tiger Track to have a go at this. 1. G2 Sideswipe, It looks fantastic, but I doubt it would top the list if not for that comic art. So looking forward to the Masterpiece version.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 17:25:34 GMT
Those photos would suggest so yes, and I'd go with the missiles and gun being the same colour, but look at the box photo. The box photos are prototypes not the finished product (just like with TFs for example Skywarp or Bluestreak). Best example I can give you is this picture of Trailbreaker where he has the yellow version fists instead of black (did you get my PM by the way?):
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Post by legios on Sept 5, 2013 20:27:45 GMT
Week 17: Repaints of Autobot Diaclone Cars that weren't sold 1984-1985
5) Black Nissan One-Box/Black Ironhide: Love this mould to begin with, but the black is just icing on the cake. Works really well on the plastic and makes it look so much more "solid" than the red version. I like the red version because it is the definite Ironhide, but this has its own charms.
4) Cross-cut: For some reason the metallic silver makes this version feel more like something I'd expect to see out on the local roads, and I do so love a Transformer that feels like something that could be just around the next corner.
3) Road Rage/ Red Corvette Stingray: I like Tracks a lot, a fun toy which looked great in blue. Looks so much better in red. Feels more showy and "look at me" than the blue version somehow.
2) G2 Sideswipe - the first Sideswipe toy I ever managed to buy. Black is always a solid choice for a redeco, and the neon race-style decals work really well.
1) Police Supertuning Countach(Sunstreaker): Sunstreaker didn't feature on my previous list, but I do have a fondness for police redecos, and this is a really striking example of one.
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Post by kayevcee on Sept 5, 2013 21:17:55 GMT
Hmmmmmmmm. 5) Red Hoist. Such a great mould. Just edges out yellow Trailbreaker. 4) Crosscut. Like Karl I love the colour, and the alternate Skids head. 3) Road Rage. Red Corvette. So cool. 2) Stepper. Lovely colours in both modes and great add-ons for Targetmaster connectivity. I specifically prefer the book-style reissue with the lovely golden Jazz weapons and the extended peg to let Stepper hold Nightstick in his hand as well as on his shoulder. 1) Unproduced G2 Mirage. Bit of a fudge, but I don't care. Look at it. LOOK AT IT!-Nick
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2013 8:01:16 GMT
2. Black Ironhide - Like Phil says, the mould looks great in these colours. Got mine cheap as well, people don't even seem to go for exclusive repaints of that toy (Green Ratchet can be got at reasonable prices too). That's cos Green Ratchet looks hideous!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2013 8:01:50 GMT
Week 18: 1988 ToysYour top 5 toys that were released in 1988 please. We're talking Powermasters, Small Headmasters, Dual Targetmasters, Pretenders, Triggerbots & Triggercons, Sparkabots & Sparkacons and Seacons here. See www.tfu.info/year/88index.htm for details but note that we think there's a mistake in their 1988 listing. We believe the first 3 Micromaster patrols were released, at least in the UK, in the latter half of 1988 so the Race Car Patrol, Off Road Patrol and Air Strike Patrol are all up for grabs as well.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2013 8:16:15 GMT
5) SqueezeplayI'm not a huge fan of the smaller Headmasters but love the crab/monster mode Squeezeplay has. 4) ScoopYay! Finally Autobot construction vehicles! Scoop's a "does what it should toy" and is almost right straight out the box. His one problem is his hands can't hold his Targetmasters. Looking forward to the update a lot. 3) QuakeQuake almost wins this just for one feature: being able to use Targetmasters as his tank barrel! 2) PiranaconHasbro/Takara's Scramble city combiners get better as they go on. And Piranacon is tops. Weapons modes for each smaller character, that mean they can be held by the giant robot, encourages children to swap the limbs round to try out each one a gun. Superb creature modes. Lots of undocumented fun with the gun stands allows you to mount weapons/figures on Snaptrap's creature mode. There' a reason for the reissue and two repaints: it's a great toy. (Takara: BWII reissue. With the missing weapons. And Missing Team member. I have money for you) 1) Powermaster Optmius PrimeOr more accurately Super Ginrai. Powermaster Optimus Prime is a great toy by itself: original Optimus Cab & Trailer. Cab turns into original robot. Cab mergers with trailer to form super robot which is larger form of original robot. Superb idea. Unfortunately using plastic all over, stickered windows and some choices made to cheapen the cost weaken the Hasbro version. Super Ginrai throws in chrome, metal cab, clear plastic windows and, most importantly, retractable fists to vastly improve the toy. It's not perfect - see My Powermaster Optimus Review for how a few small things could make it much, much better, but it's very very good.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 6, 2013 13:38:10 GMT
As usual the back end of the top 5 could really be any of a half dozen toys. Freewheeler is a long time favourite, since single handedly beating Scorponok. Backstreet too is such a fun toy to fiddle with. As Phil said Scoop is a more than solid toy, not a toy that jumps out at you, but has so many little feature and combinations.
But possibly as a sympathy vote 5 Cindersaur - poor little fella, no wings and didn't get a G2 release (though the Botcon update is rather nice). Was bought from Index (possibly Argos, but I think Index) so I didnt know which toy I was going to get so it has the lucky dip novelty going for it too. Perfectly fun little toys with an oh so addictive gimmick.
4. Quickswitch - I feel sorry for QS, Sixshot has gone on to enduring fame and popularity. QS got one appearance in the UK comic (which I own art work from I just remembered) and is now largely forgotten it seems. Admittedly Sixshot is cooler and larger, but QS is a great toy in its own right. About time he made a come back. Starring role in Transformers 6.
3. Getaway - Probably one of my first proper Autobot cars. (Hound and Ratchet not bing cars and Streetwise being diddy and a combiner). Lovely proportions, fun transformation and some how I never broke the powermaster gimmick (on any of my toys, but most impressively on Getaway for some reason.)
2. Powermaster Optimus Prime - I still remember lunch time my Mum came home and told me she had spoken to some one in At Cost and been told a brand new Optimus Prime toy was coming out. I'd missed the original so this was the greatest news I had ever heard. Oddly I dont remember actually getting the toy, but I do remember it being an incredibly well played with toy for many years. Discovering TMUK led to me discovering God Ginari as well so when the reissue was announced it was one of my first imported toys. Amazing how many little changes there are and how much they improve an already fantastic toy, though the painted diecast would probably have been ruined by me if Prime had come with it in 88.
1. Browning - The last pre Transformer to enter the Transformers line? Did some watches or egg things come along later. Certainly the last to come along with the tradition 1984 look and its a fantastic toy. If it had been 50% bigger or had accessories or a giant cannon on it's arm, it would have been Megatron, I'm sure of it. Such a great toy. Fist missiles and all. My first japanese Transformer, though actually I had a French pre transformer, I didnt care.
I'm saving Overlord for his Euro release date.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 6, 2013 14:55:54 GMT
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Post by Jim on Sept 6, 2013 21:50:12 GMT
Going to limit myself to toys I have owned for'88 as it seems to be the year I got most from. And a very fine year at that.
1. Quickmix - Cement mixer, double targetmaster chemist! I distinctly remember saving to specifically get him. All three Autobot double target masters are good, but he's the best.
2. Catilla - armoured sabre tooth tiger pretender! Perfection all round, still a treasured toy.
3. Double Dealer - dual faction / no faction, triple changing, double powermaster! Very effective transformation, awesome and playable in all modes, love the colours. Got him for Christmas alongside PMOP.
4. Slapdash - first powermaster I got, just think he looks great all round. Remember the day I got him like it was yesterday, opening and playing with him in my Dad's shop.
5. Micromaster Race Car Patrol - micromasters seemed like such a cool thing at the time and a great way to bolster your ranks. Got mine on the same rainy day my brother got the air strike patrol. Definitely '88 as I had asked for PMOP for Christmas and in the run up to it was enacting a sort of "quest for Optimus Prime" thing with this patrol leading it.
Bubbling under: PMOP himself. Wanted him so much, wasn't expecting 2 TFs for Christmas, and wound up finding Doubledealer far more interesting. Cindersaur - colourful and sparky! If I had owned any Seacons back then they would be (appropriately) bubbling under as well, if not on the list.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 12, 2013 23:30:02 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 13, 2013 7:33:00 GMT
Honourable mention: The new Legends Starscream, finally a Cyberjet Starscream! 5) Transformers Collection 09 Anime StarscreamThe original Starscream, with deco tweaks and a bundle of extras. Superb 4) FOC StarscreamSuch a fun toy with the Gattling guns! 3) Energon StarscreamLots of clear weapons and an adapted ATB small jet design. Love it. If only there was one in more G1 colours with clear weapons. In fact one in Armada colours with clear weapons would be good. Fix the battle damage and repaint the **** out of this mold! 2) Dollar General Legends StarscreamThe Legend Starscream was good already. Getting the null ray cannons, from the US Skywarp, makes it so much better. 1) Henkei StarscreamOriginal Starscream shape in both modes. Right colours. All the articulation the original is missing. Job done.
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Post by Shockprowl on Sept 13, 2013 9:36:29 GMT
Starscream.
5- Actionmaster. His vehicle was a lot of fun.
4- Energon. Almost a prototype for the more superior Classics mold. This figure had an excellent transformation.
3- G1- Iconic and nostalgic. The three original Strike Planes together always 'gets me'.
2- Classics. Just a brilliant brilliant upgrade. IF ONLY it were voyager sized. If only.
1- Masterpiece. I have the older mold (in G1 colours of course). What can I say, I love Masterpieces. This mold could be improved, and I don't know how much of an improvement the newer MP mold is, but on display he looks fantastic.
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 13, 2013 10:47:07 GMT
Going back to last weeks I had forgotten about Doubledealer, I used to have so much fun playing with that guy.
Starscreams: I have an issue with Starscream, for me hes always had the weakest of the three decos. In my mind thats why he became the main character. Starscream sold on character, Thundercracker and Skywarp on colour. Because of this I struggle to consider Starscreams in their own right or to get particularly excited about them.
How do you show interest in Actionmaster starscream when Actionmaster Thundercracker exists?
Anyway 5. HDDVD 2007 Movie Starscream finally acknowledges AMTCs greatness. It's not a great mould, though I do quite like it, but those colours.
4. Pretender Starscream, My first Starscream and I think my first strike plane, my friends wingless Thundercracker probably arrived later. Also one of the few that doesn't have the spectre of a nicer looking repaint hanging over it. On balance might be my favourite classic pretender. Certainly the one that felt most like the character and original toy (Bee always looked awkward to me and Jazz couldn't see over his chest and legs were backwards) Grimlock might have been a better toy but didn't look as Grimlock like and Starscreams shell looked bad ass.
3. Prime Starscream. It's just really really good.
2. MP-11 Is it 11? Anyway I dont have Starscream but I do have the new mould and it's amazing how the little modifications improve the toy. I have nothing against accurate vehicle modes but when they so massively affect robot mode I do, MP11 fixes most of them. Mostly though its the head and tail fins that make the toy. The head is larger and just fits better. The scabbards weren't to my taste but weren't bad, though they did affect hip movement. They just felt wrong because they weren't G1. But if the original had been designed like that, the cartoon would have had the strike planes wielding swords and MP3 would have come with those swords and it would have been awesome. But the diaclone designers didn't, the cartoon didnt and MP3 didnt so the whole thing just didn't work.
1. G2 Starscream. My first new strike plane and another that doesnt have a direct repaint in the line mocking it, even if Ramjet is looking a little smug. I got Starscream (along with Hubcap- that I thought was and still think of as Cliffjumper) on holiday in America in 93. At the time I had no idea G2 existed and walking in to the toy shop just down from the hotel was amazing. The colours, oh the colours. I had most of the G1 reissues except for SS Ramjet and (in my mind) Cliffjumper. Starscream was must have and I still love the odd colour scheme.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 13, 2013 11:51:57 GMT
Starscreams: I have an issue with Starscream, for me hes always had the weakest of the three decos. In my mind thats why he became the main character. Starscream sold on character, Thundercracker and Skywarp on colour. Because of this I struggle to consider Starscreams in their own right or to get particularly excited about them. How do you show interest in Actionmaster starscream when Actionmaster Thundercracker exists? <Looks at schedule> You might like two weeks time then
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 13, 2013 12:39:13 GMT
Anyway 5. HDDVD 2007 Movie Starscream finally acknowledges AMTCs greatness. It's not a great mould, though I do quite like it, but those colours. 4. Pretender Starscream, My first Starscream and I think my first strike plane, my friends wingless Thundercracker probably arrived later. Also one of the few that doesn't have the spectre of a nicer looking repaint hanging over it. On balance might be my favourite classic pretender. Certainly the one that felt most like the character and original toy (Bee always looked awkward to me and Jazz couldn't see over his chest and legs were backwards) Grimlock might have been a better toy but didn't look as Grimlock like and Starscreams shell looked bad ass. What am I talking about? Jazzs legs arent backwards. Must have been thinking about repainting them again. Also I should really have Energon Starscream in there somewhere probably in 5, but then again I'm thinking about the mould rather than Starscream.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 14, 2013 12:47:33 GMT
Powermaster Optimus Prime! He's the greatest hero of our time!
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Sept 17, 2013 12:20:18 GMT
Week 19: StarscreamYour top 5 Starscream toys, from any Transformers toy line. 5. Beast Wars II Starscream: Fun little toy with a clever transformation and a lovely colour scheme. So nice they reused some of the ideas for my number 4 slot toy. The way the weapons attach and completely change the shape of the toy is a nice touch. 4.Energon Starscream - The first run at doing a YF-22 Starscream, and in terms of how much fun it is as a toy still perhaps my favourite attempt. Keeps some of the aesthetic in humanoid mode, with long intakes on either siside of the head, and the wings protruding from the side of the body. But adds some nice new rinkles with the wings swinging up as deployable weapons. He also comes with fun accessories - a rifle and sword that can combine into a naginata? Brilliant. 3. Masterpiece Starscream - The first version. With the Masterpiece toys I see them very much as display pieces, and with the vehicle ones I kind of want them to get an update to a more contemporary version of the vehicle mode - something which this does rather well. Adding the conformal fuel tanks brings Screamer in line with the look of most contemporary USAF F-15's rather nicely. I actually like the reworked humanoid mode as well. I like the tail-booms separating as... well, everyone says scabbards but they feel as much like oddly-placed binders to me. (I can just see Starscream whining on about how his refit makes him more agile than ever in space - and then getting a smack upside the head with a beam-saber and a "shut up 'Screamer" for his trouble). I like little changes like giving him the missile bays which I always felt the original probably ought to have (and which apparently one of the Sumbow show animators also liked the idea of).Little niggles - the colour scheme is wrong, that olive colour belongs on the two-seat F-15E, not on a single- eater like Starscream who needed to be low-viz grey. Also the fact that they cheaped out and mirrored the front part of the fuel tank, and so gave him two internal gunports annoys me slightly. 2. Classics Starscream - updates the style, transformation architecure of the original to modern toy-technology marvellously. Keeps all the play value of the original and is every bit as fun as a toy. Only two things let it down, the lack of proper looking landing gear, and the air intake fans in a totally useless spot in fighter mode (the latter is a constant niggling annoyance to me, to the extent that if I still had two of the Starscream I would be tempted to lever them out of one of them I suspect) 1. "The Transformers" Starscream: The original, and grand ancestor. A toy whose influence on robot toy design comes down from Diaclone to more franchises than Transformers, and one of the three toys which originally got Transformers my attention. I am aware of all its flaws, but I have loved the toy since 1984 despite them all and my affection for it shows no signs of waning. Karl
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 20, 2013 6:25:47 GMT
Week 20: RobotmastersRobotmasters is a Japanese line that's 49% repaints, 49% new smaller versions of older molds and 2% bat$#!+ mental remould. See www.tfu.info/series/jrm.htm and pick your top 5 Robotmasters toys.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 20, 2013 7:40:30 GMT
An honourable mention for the aforementioned Reverse Convoy/Rebirth Megatron which looses out for not giving us the much needed green Combat Hero Megatron and because they got rid of the perfectly servicable existing Megatron head! 5) Beast MegatronShrink BW T-Rex Megatron down. Throw in a launcher. As a bonus give him a hand to hold his tail on the left arm. Superb. 4) Beast ConvoyAs is Beast Convoy. Yes there's a alot of gimmick stripping but we've still got swords, shoulder cannons and wrist blasters. 3) LigierOne of the great things about RM is that some of it's repaints are "what they really aught to have been all along" TFU have the wrong tint on there pictures this is a lovely deep blue and was the newer version of Mirage for me for many years. The only reason it gets beaten in the repaint stakes is that the following toy exists.... 2) R-BladeHow Hooligan hasn't been painted in the G1 Jetfire colours before is a mystery to me. Finally gets done and looks so right. 1) Star SaberTake a fan favourite character, previously hard to obtain in the west. Shrink him down in size maintaining all 3 modes and the removable smaller jet. Throw in some extra articulation. Make the removable jet a real proper "look I even have the hole for the footpeg" Micromaster, the first new one for donkeys years. The only downsides are the Sword hilt is a little fragile especially considering the narrowness of the fist bore and that Victory Leo didn't come out so well.
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Post by Jim on Sept 20, 2013 9:37:47 GMT
1. Energon Ghost Starscream - beautiful, more interesting visually than Classics in both detail and colour. Good but slightly scary transformation given the pressure it puts on some transparent plastic bits. I have all variations of this mould bar the Hasbro G1-style repaint - the Takara G1-style Nightscream is fantastic and would make it on this list if it had the right name! 2. G1 - a classic, though I prefer it in both Thundercracker and Skywarp colours. 3. Cybertron (Hasbro deluxe version) - I had the Takara release but the maroon is far more appealing than the grey and he's a fun toy to fiddle with. That I haven't owned: 4. Armada - Love this design, a good Armada example of evoking G1 while doing something new. Looking forward to the Generations version. 5. Action Master - he's an Action Master! Always like the look of the vehicle, and the more colourful robot mode. --- Starscream always suffers for me for being too grey, it's why he was my least favourite of the Classics planes. -Jim
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Post by Jim on Sept 20, 2013 9:45:21 GMT
I love this line from the crazy repaints to the logical repaints to the great packaging to the mix of eras and styles. In no particular order: 1. Wrecker Hook - looks like a refugee from G2, quite a nice mould with a pure heavy metal deco. 2. Bound Rogue - crazily named attractive repaint of a beast toy. 3. Ligier - Classics Mirage before there was such a thing, fun toy in a logical colour scheme (though I think maybe Skid-Z edges it). 4. R-Blade - first Robot Master I got, really looked the part in those colours. 5. Wingstun - again a nice scheme on a good toy. I wish I gotten more, especially Star Saber. Even though I donated mine to Toy-Fu, Delta Seeker is bubbling under as another attractive repaint. -Jim
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 20, 2013 11:55:43 GMT
I love this line from the crazy repaints to the logical repaints to the great packaging to the mix of eras and styles. In no particular order: 1. Wrecker Hook - looks like a refugee from G2, quite a nice mould with a pure heavy metal deco. Wrecker Hook still needs a Dark Green & Orange as Hoist, to improve on his G2 esque MW Deco Have you ever seen the KO Power Warriors Wrecker Hook? superb as either Optimus or Rodimus www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-toy-discussion/113553-new-robot-master-knock-offs.html#post914509
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Post by legios on Sept 21, 2013 18:52:38 GMT
5. Beast Convoy - Mini version of the best Optimus Primal toy, keeps the "plenty of action features" aesthetic of the original and gets the look pretty much right as well. Not as good as the original Boss Monkey, but still a cracking toy in its own right 4. Air Hunter - Love the flipchangers, and this is a really nice redeco of the Megatron/Megaplex mould. The semi-translucent plastic is a nice touch, and the high-vis colour scheme looks great on him. 3. Ligier - Fantastic re-doc of MW Mirage, which is much closer to the original look of Mirage. Great toy, great colours and he comes with an extra bonus shiny chrome gun. 2. R- Blade: I have a great love of the Cyberjet molds, I think they are brilliant little toys, and have done since I got my first one back in the day. R-Blade is great fun mould, the Variable Geometry wings and the articulation of the humanoid mode makes him a lot of fun to mess around with, and the colour scheme is very striking. 1. Star Sabre - A Star Sabre that I can afford to buy without selling an organ, and who capture the look of his Victory animation model rather well, whilst being a decent toy in his own right. Great fun, and assuages any pangs I might have about owning a Star Sabre rather nicely. Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 21, 2013 19:13:14 GMT
Baby Star Saber is a tops toy. Tops.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 21, 2013 19:18:21 GMT
That he is. Upsize it as a deluxe and I have more mony for you.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 21, 2013 20:44:30 GMT
I could never find the Star Saber, it seemed to sell out everywhere instantly. I did get the Victory Leo though. It was nice, though the plastic quality felt very poor. Same with some of the other RM figures like Prime.
I'm a bit surprised there never got a Western release actually!
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Post by Bogatan on Sept 21, 2013 21:00:48 GMT
I've been trying to rack my brain to remember what I got from the line and you just reminded me I think I got Prime. I also got one of the beast wars repaints I think, but cant remember which I think it might have been blue. Not sure why I never got Star Saber or Victory Leo and a lot of others.
Machine Wars repaints all looked good as did the reverse Convoy.
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Post by blueshift on Sept 21, 2013 21:13:26 GMT
I've been trying to rack my brain to remember what I got from the line and you just reminded me I think I got Prime. I also got one of the beast wars repaints I think, but cant remember which I think it might have been blue. Not sure why I never got Star Saber or Victory Leo and a lot of others. Machine Wars repaints all looked good as did the reverse Convoy. Haha oh man, I just remembered about Reverse Convoy!!
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Post by Stomski on Sept 23, 2013 11:37:39 GMT
You bring out Starscream the week I'm away on honeymoon? What is this madness? Really hard to cut this down to 5!!
MP-3. Some people balk at the design decisions, the hip kibble I'm ok with invoking visions of samurai sword scabbards and the colour works well to me for some reason. It looks excellent in both modes and still is in my top 5 all time figures.
Energon. A different to expected transformation and paint job. Good weapons.
Galaxy Force. Where we've been use to sleek jets and robots, the GF design was chunky and invoked a feeling of power.
MPM-1. Despite being based on the Michael Bay incarnation, this figure is really impressive. A shame I only have the Hasbro version (with US soundchip) as I'm not too keen on the "tattoos".
Henkei. A little stumpy on the robot mode, but the transformation is really intuitive and fixes all of the problems with the original. There's a reason why this mould has been used ad nausea!
Reveal The Shield. Really surprised by this lil' guy. Looks good in both modes and a nice bit of engineering for a small figure.
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