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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 27, 2014 18:42:30 GMT
Unfortunately, I thought the Brood story in "Beyond the Farthest Star" was very strong and don't like having it in a rubbish binding. You can't go wrong with a random dragon! Grateful if someone could let me know if the X-Men Brood story arc is available in another TPB at reasonable cost. In colour? No. well apart from the last two issues which are in New Mutants Classics v1 and From The Ashes respectively In B&W? Essential X-Men v4 Coincidentally they are the earliest issues of X-Men that I still own in floppy format for precisely that reason! |
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Post by Jim on Jun 27, 2014 23:43:10 GMT
There is a new batch hitting in September, though the only title I remember is X-Men: The Trial of Magneto. Keeping track of the releases is a chore, made harder since Panini closed down their forum (not that they bothered to put the information on their site, it was down to fans to work it out and post it).
It's true that the old binding was poor, but at the time I was so glad to have all those comics collected in full-colour at a reasonable price that I could overlook it! I have since invested in the 2 Omnibi of the Claremont / Cockrum / Byrne stuff, it's certainly material worthy of that format and there has been a hint that they will continue with more volumes.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 28, 2014 6:02:12 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 28, 2014 15:42:46 GMT
Currently reading Essential Thor volume 6.
Why?
Well many years ago Thor had his own UK comic. After that finished Thor ran as a backup in Spider-Man in his Amazing Friends. And there I read bits of a story. I think Firelord was involved, Hercules & Sif were stealing the staff of Kamo Tharnn, The Possessor. Odin's on Earth with memory loss and the Army are about to fight Loki's hoards.....
Fortunately working out which issue featured the Possessor was easy which led me to this volume.
May have to try tracking down the Hulk comics run as back up too
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jun 29, 2014 8:15:07 GMT
Thanks, guys - a Rocket Raccoon pocket book - fantastic!!!
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 9, 2014 7:44:14 GMT
Two Thor pocket books lined up next... Never read a Thor comic before! What will I make of them? Martin Which ones? |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 9, 2014 17:16:47 GMT
Two Thor pocket books lined up next... Never read a Thor comic before! What will I make of them? Martin Which ones? The proper ones, i.e. "When Gods Go Mad" and "In the Shadow of Mangog". NOT the "Warriors Teen" books. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 9, 2014 18:05:24 GMT
Both older Thor material.
You want to try to read the Walter Simonson Thor (330ish-382) as that is excelent.
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 9, 2014 20:36:35 GMT
That run has recently been reprinted, though sadly recoloured.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 9, 2014 20:52:49 GMT
I have the earlier version with the original colours.
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Post by legios on Jul 24, 2014 18:40:14 GMT
Been busy recently with a bundle of trades from my library. They seem to be on a real push to expand both their trade provision, and to promote them to the user-base - which is nice to see after decades of that sort of thing getting the Redheaded Stepchild treatment everywhere I have lived. I am liking the vast array of trades they have, great things to slip into the bag and wander off to a convenient seat in the local woods to sit by the pond and read.
It has been a bit of a mixed bag recently:-
New Avengers: Everything Dies: In which the Avengers discover the impending end of the multiverse and contemplate drastic actions to preserve their own universe. Hmm. I've never liked Marvel's "Illuminati" since it was introduced - the whole "secret conspiracy of superheroes" doesn't sit well with me at all. This is a story where we actually get Reed Richards and Tony Stark seriously considering destroying an entire parallel Earth and its universe, along with everyone in it, in order to try and preserve their own universe. Call me old-fashioned, but I always thought destroying universes was one of the defining features of a super-villian... There is some decent moral dillemna writing and the like, but in the end this trade leaves a bit of an unpleasant aftertaste. I wasn't a huge fan of "The Last White Event", the previous Hickman Avengers trade I read, and I think I have to conclude that much as I have liked Hickman as a writer his Avengers run just isn't going to be my thing.
Uncanny Avengers: The Apocalypse Twins. I was lukewarm to the early issues of Uncanny Avengers, but this worked better for me that I expected. Yes, there were some moments where I realised that I had missed a lot of stuff in some title or other redefining the nature of Apocalypse and his relationship to the Celestials - and the version of Wolverine in this comic doesn't really feel like the same person as the one who is Headmaster of the Jean Grey School.. But for all that it is a decent enough plot - super-powerful mutants who want mutants to do the ultimate in withdrawing from human society by going to another planet, and the fractious and mismatched Uncanny Avengers ranged against them. Always nice to see someone use Kang well, and having Sunfire around (and behaving like a total @£$!#) is always a pleasure. It is blood, thunder and nonsense but it is reasonably entertaining nonsense. I wouldn't have expected it but I think this stuff grows on me more than Hickman's work on New Avengers has.
Green Lantern/Green Arrow: Billed as containing the whole "road trip" story, this has that and more, including the drugs issues which caused a stir in the day and a large chunk of issues after that, including Ollie Queen's "quitting the world" story and the very first appearance of Jon Stewart. I think this is a collection with the potential to be a bit marmite. A lot of this stuff is very much a product of its times - from the speech patterns of the characters, to the rather blunt and unsubtle way that it approaches its soap-boxing. For all of that though, I liked it (but then, I like Marmite). The "finding america" arc, whilst quite blunt in terms of its laying out of issues has the sense to not offer any solutions. Even the two issue drugs storyline rejects the obvious superheroic "just arrest the dealers" solution by pointing out that it doesn't matter, there will always be more. As an early attempt to say that comics can actually ask proper serious questions about the world I think it works. I've a soft spot for the two issue arc where Green Arrow accidentally kills a man and initially hangs up his bow and retires to a monastery too - I am a bit of a child of the Silver Age, for me the default position is that superheroes do not kill, and this story plays well into this. On the lighter side, Stewart's introduction is brilliant - and hilarious. We are so accustomed to the serious, disciplined, retired-marine version from the Justice League cartoon that it is easy to forget that the original version was a bolshy, angry, Black Power sympathising man who didn't have much time for a white, apple-pie, space cop telling him what to do. The contrast between him and the straight-laced, middle-classesque Hal Jordan is pure gold.
Karl
EDIT: For Terminological inaccuracy.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 3, 2014 17:19:57 GMT
So Gentlemen: The Phil guide to buying Stern Avengers in Trade. His first issue is 228 in Trial of Yellowjacket but the Amazing Spider-Man annual in Absolute Vision 1 occurs before it. Hmmm, maybe I will have to buy Legacy of Thanos now that it's been drawn to my attention that the editors of Transformers considered Avengers to be TF canon at least as far as Avengers #257. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 3, 2014 18:04:09 GMT
Oh yes you need to find out why TF4 can't take place after Avengers 257 :-)
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 6, 2014 19:15:00 GMT
Oh yes you need to find out why TF4 can't take place after Avengers 257 :-) (You mean TF8.) Crikey, yes, that's a lot of death and destruction. And yet I've read X-Men comics from a few years later in which the Savage Land appears to be back to normal. Explanation please? Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 6, 2014 19:33:26 GMT
X-Men Annual 12. The X-Men visit the region and with the help of the High Evoloutionary restore the Savage Land bringing back many of it's inhabitants who'd fled to another dimension.
It's a very good comic actually!
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 6, 2014 20:05:49 GMT
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 7, 2014 6:43:50 GMT
You mean October 1988... but thanks! Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 7, 2014 7:00:18 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 2, 2014 6:59:03 GMT
I've just ordered the Iron Man 2020 trade for less than a tenner from Marketplace, that's worth it for the Machine Man stuff alone and it would seem to be a big chunky book. Yep. It's printed in chronological order from Arno Stark's point of view, beginning with the time-travel / nuclear bomb / Spider-Man story which begins and ends in 2015, then the Machine Man mini-series set in 2020, the Death's Head story and IM2020 sixty-something-page one-shot also in 2020, and the six-part Astonishing Tales story in 2023, rounded off by a What if? story about the 2015 Iron Man being trapped in the past so that none of those other stories happen. In my assessment Machine Man and the 2023 six-parter are excellent, the What if? story (drawn by Manny Galan) is rubbish, the rest is so-so, but it' a good package overall. Martin Martin: I know you like that Machine Man series, have you ever read any of the artist's other stuff? |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 2, 2014 17:31:24 GMT
Martin: I know you like that Machine Man series, have you ever read any of the artist's other stuff? Which artist? I've enjoyed Herbe Trimpe's stuff since he introduced Jetfire in the first TF comic I ever read, and drew 'Prime Time' and 'Showdown' and various G.I. Joe. I'm sure I've read odd issues of Barry Windsor Smith here and there also. He might even be in the new X-Men pocket book apparently out now. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 2, 2014 18:23:31 GMT
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 2, 2014 19:24:46 GMT
He also did the Weapon X story, the origin of Wolverine's adamantium skeleton. The very first one serialised in Marvel Comics Presents in 1991. If you picked up the issue that had the Furman/Hitch Death's Head story in at the time you will have seen part of it.
His work is stunning, always been a big BWS fan.
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Sept 3, 2014 6:46:13 GMT
The X-Men pocket book releases from 2009 onwards, all still readily available at sensible prices, are as follows:
| Pocket Book | Uncanny | Annual | Other | | Days Of Future Past | 138-143 | 4 |
| | Beyond the Farthest Star | 162-168 |
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| | Blood Feud | 176-179 | 6 | New Mutants #13-14 | | Love and Madness | 180-184 |
| New Mutants #15-17 | | Legacy of the Lost | 185-191 |
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| | The Gift | 192-194 |
| X-Men & Alpha Flight #1-2 |
So 'The Trial of Magneto' - which Amazon tells me has been dispatched - is likely to contain #198 though probably not #205. Just looked up issue #186 in my copy of 'Legacy of the Lost'. Yeah, that looks like something from 'Machine Man'. But I prefer Herbe Trimpe's solo work. Hmmm... 'Legacy of the Lost'... 'Legion of the Lost'... 'Legacy of Unicron'... Any chance Simon Furman was an X-Men fan? Martin (EDIT: Information tabled by Phil) |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 3, 2014 7:04:43 GMT
I know he references Claremont in various interviews in TF Classics so it's quite likely. UXM was THE comic to be reading at the time, even though Marvel UK had barely printed any since 82/3 ish - the last regular issue of X-Men reprinted by Marvel UK was 144 in Might World of Marvel 4. Nothing between there and 196 (the first issue in Secret Wars II, reprinted in 37) was ever reprinted in the UK.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 3, 2014 7:20:13 GMT
Ah, it's easy to predict
| Pocket Book | Uncanny | Annual | Other | | Trial of Magneto | 195-200 | 9 | New Mutants Special Edition 1
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Some Art Adams Goodness in there if you've not read it before. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 3, 2014 17:52:02 GMT
Herbe Trimpe's solo work. Hmmm... 'Legacy of the Lost'... 'Legion of the Lost'... 'Legacy of Unicron'... Any chance Simon Furman was an X-Men fan? Martin Herb Trimpe only did layouts on the Machine Man tale, as BWS had been out of comics, so he really only did the panel layouts and figure placement. The rest was all BWS. Andy |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Sept 3, 2014 17:52:55 GMT
Yes, Furman is an avowed fan of Chris Claremont's work having mentioned it in interviews in the past.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 3, 2014 18:06:26 GMT
Herb Trimpe only did layouts on the Machine Man tale, as BWS had been out of comics, so he really only did the panel layouts and figure placement. The rest was all BWS. Andy BWS drew UXM 186 out the same month as Machine Man 2020 1: marvel.wikia.com/Category:1984,_October But I could see that MM could well have been in development first |
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Post by Jim on Sept 3, 2014 23:53:03 GMT
Ah, it's easy to predict
| Pocket Book | Uncanny | Annual | Other | | Trial of Magneto | 195-200 | 9 | New Mutants Special Edition 1
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Some Art Adams Goodness in there if you've not read it before. Having it in hand and already reading it, I can tell you it collects just #195 - 200, one of the slimmer volumes. -Jim |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Sept 4, 2014 6:41:29 GMT
200 is double sized so.... But yes, that creates an odd jump when the X-Men just appear in 200. Martin: most of the next 25 odd issues have been traded full size: | Trade | Uncanny | Annual | Other | | Asgardian Wars | | 9 | X-Men Alpha Flight 1-2
New Mutants Special Edition 1 | | Ghosts | 199-209 | 10 | | | Mutant Massacre | 210-214 | | X-Factor 9-11
New Mutants 46
Thor 373-374
Power Pack 27
Daredevil 238 | | vs Avengers/FF | | | Fantastic Four vs. the X-Men #1-4
X-Men vs. the Avengers #1-4
Fantastic Four #28
X-Men #9. | | Fall of the Mutants | 220-227 | | Incredible Hulk 340
New Mutants 55-61 |
There's a big 215-219, Annual 11 & Spider-Man vs Wolverine shaped gap there though! I'd pay for a trade of those! |
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