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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2015 18:14:50 GMT
Oh Lord, I'd done my best to forget! Post Civil War, pre Secret Invasion?
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Post by blueshift on Oct 20, 2015 18:42:59 GMT
Oh Lord, I'd done my best to forget! Post Civil War, pre Secret Invasion? I quite enjoyed World War Hulk. I mean yes all the stuff that wasn't the main book was horrible, but the main book was good. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2015 18:59:20 GMT
I may react differently if I read it now but my problem at the time was that Planet Hulk, which directly preceded it, was so much better.
Just stuck my head in the library door: I own a copy of WWH!
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Post by Jim on Oct 20, 2015 20:46:13 GMT
I disliked the conclusion to the main mini, it just wasn't dramatically satisfying; it didn't really feel like anything got resolved properly. I seem to remember Pak wasn't too happy with the direction he had to go in with it either.
My favourite thing about WWH remains Incredible Herc, that was great.
-Jim
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2015 20:50:55 GMT
I enjoyed WWH for the first few issues but it was extended past breaking point for what was essentially a simple Big Fight. Planet Hulk went on and on and on and on. I never made it to the end!
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 20, 2015 22:11:14 GMT
Enjoyed Planet Hulk, but felt that WWH sort of fell apart at the end.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 21, 2015 9:38:14 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2015 12:18:48 GMT
If only I had the spare pennies!!!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2015 11:48:55 GMT
Well I read Avengers: Time Runs Out -Volume 1. Utterly impenetrable. Not a fucking clue what that was about.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 11:54:35 GMT
Well I read Avengers: Time Runs Out -Volume 1. Utterly impenetrable. Not a fucking clue what that was about. -Ralph YOU MUST READ ALL THESE SEVENTY BILLION HICKMAN COMICS TO EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND SECRET WARS* *(That was literally what everyone was saying, I believe this to be a filthy lie) |
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 11:55:21 GMT
My favourite thing about WWH remains Incredible Herc, that was great. Oh man, same. Incredible Herc was brilliant! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 12:05:18 GMT
Well I read Avengers: Time Runs Out -Volume 1. Utterly impenetrable. Not a fucking clue what that was about. -Ralph YOU MUST READ ALL THESE SEVENTY BILLION HICKMAN COMICS TO EVEN BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND SECRET WARS* *(That was literally what everyone was saying, I believe this to be a filthy lie) Time Runs Out v1 is one of the better jumping on points too! |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2015 14:36:02 GMT
It was? It was incomprehensible! Where the Avengers even in it? I couldn't tell.
There was also some quite unpleasant stuff with a version of Professor X somewhere begging to die which just came across as rather distasteful.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 14:55:03 GMT
There was also some quite unpleasant stuff with a version of Professor X somewhere begging to die Had he read some of the X-Men movie scripts? ZING! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 15:36:36 GMT
It was? It was incomprehensible! Where the Avengers even in it? I couldn't tell. There's 3 different sets of Avengers in Time Runs Out: The main group which are working with SHIELD, the renegade Illuminati which are on the run and Sunspot's group which have taken over AIM and are doing something in the Savage Land. There was also some quite unpleasant stuff with a version of Professor X somewhere begging to die which just came across as rather distasteful. -Ralph That's AXIS, not Time Runs Out. |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2015 18:24:35 GMT
Nay there was a bit on an alternate Earth where a Prof X is made to shout "KILL ME!" by the evil folk who are destroyed worlds for no clearly explained reason other than the U.N. saying it was ok apparently.
-Ralph
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Post by blueshift on Oct 24, 2015 18:30:27 GMT
Nay there was a bit on an alternate Earth where a Prof X is made to shout "KILL ME!" by the evil folk who are destroyed worlds for no clearly explained reason other than the U.N. saying it was ok apparently. -Ralph Did they actually explain how you can have a planet fly up real close to another planet without terrible gravity effects, and if you blow up one of the planets the other one is saved and not just smashed to bits? |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 24, 2015 18:44:32 GMT
Oh yes, you're right. Sorry, been a bit since I read it
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 24, 2015 20:02:39 GMT
Nay there was a bit on an alternate Earth where a Prof X is made to shout "KILL ME!" by the evil folk who are destroyed worlds for no clearly explained reason other than the U.N. saying it was ok apparently. -Ralph Did they actually explain how you can have a planet fly up real close to another planet without terrible gravity effects, and if you blow up one of the planets the other one is saved and not just smashed to bits? Fuck all is explained. -Ralph |
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Post by legios on Oct 25, 2015 12:48:30 GMT
Did they actually explain how you can have a planet fly up real close to another planet without terrible gravity effects, and if you blow up one of the planets the other one is saved and not just smashed to bits? Nah. But then, given that the Marvel universe can get by fine with another Earth-mass planet in the same orbit as it without changing the orbital dynamics of the system I'm inclined to say that it doesn't have the same physical laws as our universe. I didn't find that trade completely incomprehensible - but mostly because I'd read some of the previous trades - but it, along with "The Illuminati", was the moment I decided that the run had completely alienated me and that it was an ideal point to jump off. (Sort of an "Identity Crisis" moment for me only with Marvel stuff) Karl |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 28, 2015 19:33:48 GMT
Just bought the newly released X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Volume 2 'Reign'.
Question: What happened to the non-X Marvel titles during this period? Did they just carry on as normal? How did they rationalise it?
Martin
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Post by blueshift on Oct 28, 2015 20:19:16 GMT
Just bought the newly released X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Volume 2 'Reign'. Question: What happened to the non-X Marvel titles during this period? Did they just carry on as normal? How did they rationalise it? Martin They just carried on as normal, didn't they? It was all alternate timeline-resetting fun, no need to address it. Age of Apocalypse was so much fun, mostly down to how unique an idea it was. But Marvel have been well and truly flogging the 'alternate reality' dead horse to death and beyond as of late. It's cool the first time but not the 10^9999999 time! |
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Post by legios on Oct 28, 2015 21:10:27 GMT
Just bought the newly released X-Men: Age of Apocalypse Volume 2 'Reign'. Question: What happened to the non-X Marvel titles during this period? Did they just carry on as normal? How did they rationalise it? Martin Pretty much ignored it completely. As it was an X-books crossover it only affected comics from that editorial "family". Titles were pretty much "siloed" by the character family they belonged to in those days, and big events in one "family" wouldn't necessarily be reflected in any other "family"s books. So, world-shattering events in the "Avengers family" books wouldn't really impact on "X-Men family" books, and if the whole of reality was temporarily rewritten in the "X-Men" books it wouldn't be reflected in the "Spider-Man" books. Gone were the days where something like Inferno would affect Daredevil, Spider Man and the Avengers by virtue of them being on Manhattan island when it happened. That "siloing" has pretty much gone away now, going back to the old status quo. Karl |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Oct 30, 2015 0:25:06 GMT
Well to be fair it was only for a couple of years as Onslaught pretty much embroiled all the titles!
Andy
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Nov 1, 2015 14:31:26 GMT
Just finished Age of Apocalypse Volume 2 (of 3). Massively impressed by this crossover. Most Marvel crossovers that I've read are basically instances of the casts of two or more ongoing titles mashing together for a few issues, during which time the identity of the individual titles gets lost and you have to treat them as a single title for the duration, otherwise you only get the odd-numbered or even-numbered parts of the story, or whatever. Apocalypse is different. Each title has its own identity and cast, and tells a distinct story, but at the same time is linked crucially to what is going on in the other titles. The overall big picture story is tightly plotted, whilst allowing the writers and artists of the individual titles their own creative freedom. The "writing by committee" nut seems to have at last been cracked.
I also have to highly praise the characterisation - so many players getting such development. Perhaps 'Infinity Gauntlet' could have been this good if it had had the same page count for characters to breathe in - I'd have liked to see an entire issue on Odin's council of gods, for example. Or maybe it still would have been too cosmic and distant from humanity to engross me in the way that Apocalypse is currently doing.
Martin
PS Congrats to Gavin for passing me in post count. And come on, Nick, stop cruising in my wake and overtake! There's a place for you to claim in the top ten if you want it!
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 1, 2015 16:41:31 GMT
Awful series. By far the worst Marvel crossover.
-Ralph
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Post by Jim on Nov 5, 2015 0:35:28 GMT
Just finished the Deathlok: The Demolisher complete collection; it's a shame that Rich Buckler is mostly known for his swiping because this is really, really good, especially the Moench-scripted issues. It's got an energy which brings to mind Steranko in those early instalments.
Some of the later stuff is not so great, to be honest - the Dematteis Cap issues which attempt to wrap up his story are a bit weak (though with decent art by Zeck), and don't satisfyingly explain his seemingly fatal appearance in that Project Pegasus story with The Thing and Quasar.
Really glad I read this overall though.
-Jim
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Post by The Doctor on Nov 12, 2015 18:45:02 GMT
The final volume of Wolverines is...not good.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Nov 27, 2015 19:41:16 GMT
Martin, how you getting on with the Simonson Thor volume?
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Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 7, 2015 16:03:03 GMT
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