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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 26, 2015 9:12:28 GMT
Young Ed points out to me that the last page of CW: Windblade 1 is a massive continuity fluff
Prime has the matrix - uhuh!
He used it to defeat Galvatron's horde and gave one half of the shell to Rodimus, who broke it, and one half to BB, location unknown
apparently this was covered in CW: Opening Salvo! tfwiki.net/wiki/First_Contact_%28IDW%29 |
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Post by Llama God on Mar 26, 2015 10:20:19 GMT
Not a continuity fluff... As that TFWiki article states, Prime only ever gave the cores away, not the container - presumably because he didn't want a great, big, empty space behind his robo-tits. Rodimus did indeed break his half, but Bumblebee never did anything with his, so we can only presume that it was given back to him after the end of Dark Cybertron, and his reclamation of his name.
And, if you check the artwork when Prime opens his chest, you can indeed see that there's only one half of the Matrix core present. I wonder what the Caminians will make of that..? |
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 26, 2015 12:46:39 GMT
{Spoiler}But remember it was supposed to be an empty, dormant half. Where's all that energy coming from? |
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Post by dyrl on Mar 26, 2015 15:21:24 GMT
So that's why Prime can no l8nger solve all the world's problems by opening his chest case...
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Post by Llama God on Mar 26, 2015 15:37:46 GMT
Well... ...it was re-energised when it came into contact with a fertile Titan (Caminus), or reacted some other way to the planet. Or... Optimus stuck a flashbulb in there to assist with snaring the superstitious Caminians. I'm thinking the latter. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2015 23:37:10 GMT
You are not the only one who thought that was a bit of a flub. I dare say it may get explained away in the next issue or in the story as a whole. {Spoiler}At least it's stated that in this issue that Starscream lied to Swindle, but the fact he handed the Enigma to him will come out in the wash. Which makes it an incredibly stupid thing to have done for the character. |
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Post by Llama God on Mar 26, 2015 23:48:20 GMT
Yeah, but... Who're you going to believe - Starscream or Swindle? That's an impossible decision to make right there... |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 26, 2015 23:50:28 GMT
{Spoiler}Problem is, there is no way for Starscream to make it that Swindle stole it. The minute he gave it to Swindle he should have been back in his quarters feigning he'd been attacked and the enigma had been stolen.
Sloppy writing imo. |
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Post by Llama God on Mar 26, 2015 23:57:30 GMT
Or... ...he'll just say that Swindle was lying and never had the Enigma in the first place. (A difficult one to call there, though, since at present we have no idea how it actually works.) And then he'll hope that he just comes up smelling of roses again (or, at the very least, that he'll smell enough like one to not be dead-headed), which to be fair is pretty much what's happened ever since the war ended.
But yes, to be fair, I was actually disappointed by this issue. I loved Scott's work in the first Windblade series. This seemed... rushed and poorly assembled. |
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 27, 2015 8:11:14 GMT
The only decent thing in the first Windblade mini was Stone's art. Even if she did turn the Terrorcons into their Beast Hunters versions for no reason whatsoever.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 27, 2015 17:13:27 GMT
I still maintain that there a solo Transformers book headlined by one character is a dumb move. They are part of an ensemble cast and work best that way.
Andy
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 27, 2015 18:04:20 GMT
The only decent thing in the first Windblade mini was Stone's art. Even if she did turn the Terrorcons into their Beast Hunters versions for no reason whatsoever.  !! |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 27, 2015 18:05:25 GMT
I still maintain that there a solo Transformers book headlined by one character is a dumb move. They are part of an ensemble cast and work best that way. Andy Other than Spotlights. Spotlights are good. |
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 27, 2015 18:07:37 GMT
They are one offs.
I mean an ongoing solo book.
Andy
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 27, 2015 18:08:35 GMT
I can KINDA get it for a mini, but not an ongoing like in this case.
But even then, I'd sooner see a mini about a team, because no one character EVER carries an entire series. And I'd definitely sooner see them be about characters that already existed but didn't get an opportunity to shine yet.
For example, how much more awesome would the combiner wars be if we'd had minis about ANY of the teams before hand, to make us care about them. All we really know about the Aerialbots and Stunticons at this point is a bunch of names and faces that weren't totally happy in their faction and somehow became a giant, because the giant is what everyone cares about, right?
(Not me. Superion was never more interesting than the Silverbolt/Slingshot dynamic. Nor is Defensor more interesting than the idea that Blades, a nutter, and First Aid, a pacifist, would be happy on the same team, etc.)
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 27, 2015 18:13:05 GMT
I've seen two characters get IDW minis: Drift and Windblade.
I care not for either of them.
Both are characters created by IDW.
Drift was far far better in MTMTE written by James. Having only seen him there I couldn't see why everyone else hated him. Now I know.
(Other character series may have existed when I was not reading TF comics)
(yes I know Windblade was a fan built bot: most of the work on her character has been done by IDW)
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 27, 2015 18:24:05 GMT
Drift got two minis. There were also the Ironhide and Bumblebee ones. And may god strike me down if I didn't think the Bumblebee one was the best of them all.
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Post by Kingoji on Mar 27, 2015 18:24:45 GMT
That said, they were all sub-par at best.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Mar 27, 2015 18:25:08 GMT
Drift got two minis. There were also the Ironhide and Bumblebee ones. And may god strike me down if I didn't think the Bumblebee one was the best of them all. The Ironhide mini started out promisingly, but the wheels were coming off by the end of Issue 2. Overall, yeah I think you are right the Bumblebee one is the least worst. Andy |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 22, 2015 11:39:30 GMT
After last week's art reference disaster in TF: The comic formerly known as RID this week's Windblade couldn't be as bad.
Could it?
Mainframe and Grotusque have been used for Blades and Streetwise AGAIN throughout. Devastator appears in te last panel with a car arm. I'm pretty sure A) it shoukdn't be Devastator and B) what it should be shouldn't have a car arm there!
Deary me!
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Post by primenova on Apr 22, 2015 11:57:02 GMT
But it's written by scott who did that ep of TFP series 3 where the animators had to have the con stood there doing nothing because scott is unable to write for all the characters appearing in a cartoon but the animators had to have the con's all around with Starscream because of a fight later on. The sooner we get rid of scott from the comics/cartoon & bay from the films - the better. I'm not paying more than 50p for any comic written by scott. I'll get this issue in the bargin bins when its almost worth the price of the writing.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 22, 2015 12:15:27 GMT
I don't think she can be blamed for Ramondelli's art **** ups, especially as similar ones were in TF:tcfkarid#40 last week.
He's claiming someone at IDW told him to draw them like that!
"As for Blades and Streetwise- those versions of them are simply the reference IDW sent me to draw from."
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Post by Llama God on Apr 22, 2015 14:06:16 GMT
It does smack a little of Hasbro having finalised the make-up of the Protectobots only after the comic series was in production...
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Apr 28, 2015 14:20:53 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me, as I imagine the Combiner Wars story must have had a heck of a lot of lead time due to the toy situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2015 10:48:57 GMT
I'm quite glad the Combiner Wars thing is over. Still, going by the last couple of pages in Windblade no. 3, I'm looking forward to seeing what is made of the rest of the colonies of Kobol. Sorry, Cybertron.
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Post by KnightBeat on Jun 13, 2015 12:06:04 GMT
Me too. The story telling and pacing has been a bit of a mess. After building up to the Combiner War for so long, the story seemed to devolve into a series of random events and fights between giant characters. Starscream's creation of Defensor was ridiculous. We also had the Caminus 1st contact thrown into the mix. I can't help but think this was an unnecessary distraction. If it needed to be there, it would have worked better as a background plot that jumped to the fore in the final issue when the combiners came crashing through the portal. As it is, I no longer care about Caminus 1st contact because we have lots of other planets/characters being introduced. Windblade #3 spoiler
It's a pity that Swindle was killed at the end of the story. He seemed to have been neutered when he got back to Cybertron, so it's a shame he had to die when he was becoming become more interesting. In another universe he would have made a great addition to the Lost Light.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 13, 2015 12:17:33 GMT
Swindle is not Dead . Rattrap only said he was. He'll be back for CWII and Bruticus next year. |
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Post by primenova on Jun 13, 2015 19:18:53 GMT
Camius stuff 'll be scott writing so no wonder it is pointless & dreadful - but i've still not read any parts of the story yet - going to get tpb.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Aug 11, 2015 14:49:25 GMT
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Post by primenova on Jun 28, 2016 19:40:15 GMT
I got the tpb today - what pages had redone art?
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