X-Men

[The Doctor]

Colossus isn't great either. I cheered when he died.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Are there any X-Men you do like? (says he shifting this to the X-Men thread)

[The Doctor]

Professor X. magneto.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

May 21, 2015 17:20:09 GMT The Doctor said:

Colossus isn't great either. I cheered when he died.

-Ralph

He's a character who has been very poorly served a lot of the time.

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

[Andy Turnbull]

Gorgeous work. Though I have always thought the Paul Smith era is the prettiest of the X-Men eras.

Andy

[Kingoji]

May 7, 2015 16:35:07 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Oh FFS. Obvious spoilers

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/05/07/so-what-happens-to-the-x-men-after-secret-wars-spoilers/

First I heard of this. What does this mean for mutant characters that have no real affiliation with the X-books? Firestar? The Richards children?

I was kinda hoping that Marvel would use this Secret War event to reset titles like X-men out of the canonical narrative holes they've dug themselves into back to a place that's more of an iconic standard. But it seems more like they're keeping the difficult stuff and trimming the superficial stuff only.

Also, words cannot describe how much it pisses me off that studio conflicts should impact the original books.

[Andy Turnbull]

Think that might not happen now, as the previous editor of the X-books has left, and for a long while the x-books have been editorially driven (Morrison's run not withstanding) so who knows.

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

X Men relaunch teams and creative teams

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/29/cullen-bunn-and-greg-land-relaunch-uncanny-x-men-marveloctober/

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/29/jeff-lemire-and-humberto-ramos-launch-extraordinary-x-men-as-old-man-logan-joins-marveloctober/

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/29/dennis-hopeless-and-mark-bagley-relaunch-all-new-x-men-marveloctober/

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/29/tom-taylor-and-david-lopez-on-the-new-female-wolverine-for-marveloctober/

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/06/29/jeff-lemire-and-andrea-sorrentino-relaunch-old-man-logan-1-for-marveloctober/

[Andy Turnbull]

Ah fuck. Greg Land.

[The Doctor]

Ah fuck. Humberto Ramos.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

He is better than porntracer though.

Andy

[The Doctor]

I disagree. Ramos is an artist so poor I automatically drop titles he is on. He is like a poor man's Pat Lee. Nowt against Ramos himself, just cannot stand his art.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

You may disagree but you are wrong.

At least Ramos draws his own stuff, rather than tracing from porn and wrestlers. Makes me so angry as once upon a time I liked Greg Land's work.

Andy

[The Doctor]

Seeing any page of Ramos' work featuring his twisted nightmare people, awful perspectives, poor anatomy and Pat Lee-minus dull surprise faces makes me a million times more angry than Greg Land's bland style. I honestly can't think of any artist whose work I dislike more than Ramos' stuff. My idea of hell would be a Gambit/Deadpool team-up book drawn by Mr Ramos!

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

No, it would be Secret Wars; Gambit and Deadpool - The Hidden Chronicles.

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

Some info on he X-Men's future from SDCC

www.bleedingcool.com/2015/07/09/sdcc-15-things-change-uncanny-inhumans/

[The Doctor]

I just can't give a toss about the Inhumans.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

me neither

[Fortmax2020]

Prefer them to the X Men.

[The Doctor]

Now you're just saying that to be contrary.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

It's possible he's just disliking the X-Men at the moment due to some poor recent exposure.

[Fortmax2020]

Jul 10, 2015 13:06:16 GMT The Doctor said:

Now you're just saying that to be contrary.

-Ralph

Nope.

[Andy Turnbull]

Oh the comedy threats for making him read Planet X.

Worth every penny.

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

Courtesy of a recent Comixology sale I've now read Death of Wolverine.

It was ok. Not great, but not a complete disaster either. I'm pretty sure the then current Wolverine writer, Paul Cornell, who'd written the 24 issue run in could have done a better job. In many ways it felt like it was written to a "let's see ow many elements of Wolverine's past we can squeeze in" recipe. And I really can't decide if I like the final ending or not.

So OK. But could have been better.

[The Doctor]

IIRC Cornell was asked if he wanted to do it and politely declined.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

This the story as I remember it:

www.bleedingcool.com/2014/04/28/so-why-isnt-paul-cornell-writing-the-death-of-wolverine/

Soule certainly is a "go to" man at Marvel at the moment....

I can't tell if Cornell is towing the party line when interviewed here:

www.newsarama.com/21103-cornell-counts-down-the-last-days-of-wolverine-before-september-s-death.html

However he repeats the story here:

www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=53505

So I think we'll go with it, but note that despite the Wolverine run's success and good write up Cornell hasn't written for Marvel since.

[Andy Turnbull]

Could be coincidence...

Andy

[Philip Ayres]

Read the final Amazing X-Men volume last week. OK, but the other two are better. Adjectiveless X-Men v5: The Burning World should be waiting for me when I return home tomorrow via an £8 eBay purchase. Bar the stuff running in Essential X-Men that's me up to date X-Men wise prior to Secret Wars

[Philip Ayres]

Burning World turned up today, good but not a patch on the earlier books. Also got round to reading Cyclops v2 which again wasn't as good as the earlier volume but seemed fun and looked very nice.

Ralph reminds me by text that Nightcrawler v2 sucked big time. Mind control and the Shadow King. Let it go Claremont!