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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 20:54:01 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 20:54:01 GMT
Any retcon for Professor X makes him even worse a person.
It's like tourettes for X-Men writers they just cannot help themselves.
Andy
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 20:56:06 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 14, 2015 20:56:06 GMT
I enjoyed the really really early comics where Prof X was madly in love with Jean Grey
D:
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 20:57:15 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 20:57:15 GMT
Revisited only once by my reckoning and by Mark Waid during the ramp up to Onslaught, when Onslaught reveals to Jean Grey that the Professor is not such a virtuous man.
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 20:58:53 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 14, 2015 20:58:53 GMT
I have been reading the classic Claremont X-Men run. Why... why does Prof X have a shrine to Cthulhu in his back garden??? I think it's important to remember who wrote Uncanny 96 which first showed the Cthulu temple..... |
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 21:04:57 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 14, 2015 21:04:57 GMT
And Prof X was crippled by Lucifier!!!!
Did they ever revisit that crazy, made-up sounding story?
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 21:30:06 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 21:30:06 GMT
And Prof X was crippled by Lucifier!!!! Did they ever revisit that crazy, made-up sounding story? Not in the comics but there is in the X-Men books. From wikipedia In the novel Shadows of the Past by Michael Jan Friedman, the alien Lucifer is revealed to be alive, capturing Professor X and replacing him with an ionic energy duplicate possessing his memories and powers while nevertheless unquestionably loyal to Lucifer, while trapping Xavier in the Nameless Dimension with him (The Nameless Dimension being depicted as a featureless realm filled with a thick liquid-like substance that Lucifer and Xavier can 'breathe' as though they are still inhaling oxygen). Using the original X-Men as his agents to satisfy Lucifer's twisted sense of irony - and also due to his limited ability to create truly effective ionic constructs; the duplicate Xavier was only his third construct shown and the other two lacked any kind of initiative, only defeating Iceman and the Professor when capturing Xavier through raw power and their immunity to telepathy- the duplicate Professor dispatched the X-Men to acquire three components from Quistalian outposts around the globe, intending to use them to alter the machine that had sent the Professor into the Nameless Dimension so that it could be used to allow Lucifer to return to Earth, claiming to the X-Men that he could use those components to devise a machine to protect Earth from future Quistalian invasion. Fortunately, although the dimensional distance prevented the Professor from telepathically contacting his students directly- although he could penetrate the dimensional barrier, his weakened powers were subsequently unable to access the complex minds of his students- he was able to make contact with Jeffery Saunders, the mentally handicapped grandson of a recently deceased friend of his, whose mental state meant that he lacked the conflicting thoughts that had prevented the Professor reaching the X-Men. Using Jeffrey's physically superior body - the young boy being an exceptional athlete despite his mental state- the Professor was not only able to alert the X-Men to the deception- thanks to Iceman (The only member of the team to see how the real Professor treated Jeffrey, having recently accompanied the professor to the funeral of Jeffrey's grandfather before Lucifer abducted him) realizing that the duplicate was acting out-of-character in his dealings with Jeffrey - but later defeated an ionic duplicate of Archangel - created after the original was injured and captured while they were investigating one of the facilities- that could have allowed Lucifer to use the newly modified portal to return to their dimension. Although Xavier was briefly tempted to destroy the machine when he thought that Lucifer might be able to reach the exit portal before him, Jeffrey was able to help him escape by 'sending' the Professor his own youthful energy back along their psychic link, giving Xavier the strength to beat Lucifer to the portal in a swimming race, the portal being deactivated just as Lucifer's hand attempted to emerge after Xavier. With Xavier's return, the machine is destroyed by Cyclops and the duplicate Professor is found to have ceased to exist, leaving Lucifer to fume and plot his revenge in the Nameless Dimension once again. |
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 21:30:49 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 14, 2015 21:30:49 GMT
I have been reading the classic Claremont X-Men run. Why... why does Prof X have a shrine to Cthulhu in his back garden??? I think it's important to remember who wrote Uncanny 96 which first showed the Cthulu temple..... Mantlotainment! Andy |
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X-Men
Dec 14, 2015 21:54:00 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 14, 2015 21:54:00 GMT
And Prof X was crippled by Lucifier!!!! Did they ever revisit that crazy, made-up sounding story? YES marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Lucifer_%28Quist%29West Coast Avengers Lost In Space/Time is something to do with him |
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X-Men
Dec 16, 2015 20:04:52 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 16, 2015 20:04:52 GMT
B-b-banshee's IRISH CASTLE has LEPRECHAUNS living in it.
Of COURSE it does.
Was that ever revisited? It's the sort of thing I am expecting to find a 12 part miniseries from the 00s dedicated to explaining how the leprechauns were actually creations of Mr Sinister and cloned from Jean Grey.
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X-Men
Dec 16, 2015 20:32:26 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 16, 2015 20:32:26 GMT
...And the father of the year award goes to Magneto!!  |
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X-Men
Dec 16, 2015 20:38:54 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 16, 2015 20:38:54 GMT
{Spoiler}It's been retconned.
He's not their father anymore. |
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X-Men
Dec 17, 2015 22:24:02 GMT
Post by The Doctor on Dec 17, 2015 22:24:02 GMT
*reads spoiler*
You are fucking joking me!!!
-Ralph
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X-Men
Dec 17, 2015 23:04:35 GMT
via mobile
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 17, 2015 23:04:35 GMT
Nope.
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X-Men
Dec 17, 2015 23:36:46 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 17, 2015 23:36:46 GMT
All so Marvel Studios can use them and Fox can't.
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X-Men
Dec 18, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 18, 2015 17:47:24 GMT
Not quite.
Fox has Quicksilver remember - Marvel have Scarlet Witch.
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X-Men
Dec 18, 2015 17:48:56 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 18, 2015 17:48:56 GMT
Fox had used Quicksilver before the retcon though. Have they used him since? I know neither appeared in Avengers beforehand.
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X-Men
Dec 18, 2015 17:51:23 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 18, 2015 17:51:23 GMT
Yes he is in DOFP and is in Apocalypse
Andy
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X-Men
Dec 18, 2015 18:37:11 GMT
Post by The Doctor on Dec 18, 2015 18:37:11 GMT
My mind is staggered. -Ralph |
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X-Men
Dec 18, 2015 18:43:06 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 18, 2015 18:43:06 GMT
My mind is staggered. -Ralph The way they do it is hilarious. Scarlet Witch casts a spell on Magneto and Quicksilver to STRIKE DOWN HER FAMILY and Magneto is unaffected thus they are not related and Magneto is all "NOOOOOOOOO :c" Quicksilver isn't particularly struck down either for a spell that was clearly supposed to KILL THEM TO DEATH but eh, Marvel. I am sure at some point there will be a recon that 'Scarlet Witch's spell was just sh*t' but whatever. |
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X-Men
Dec 20, 2015 20:41:47 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 20, 2015 20:41:47 GMT
Only when Ike Perlmutter dies.
Andy
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X-Men
Dec 21, 2015 19:24:56 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 21, 2015 19:24:56 GMT
I have got to the x-mens battles against Dracula and blatant Alien rip offs, but they are losing the fight re: Colossus's inappropriate feelings towards Kitty. What sort of an establishment is professor X running? What will happen if OFSTED inspect his school and discover he is radicalising youth into his private army??
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X-Men
Dec 21, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 21, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
I have got to the x-mens battles against Dracula and blatant Alien rip offs, but they are losing the fight re: Colossus's inappropriate feelings towards Kitty. What sort of an establishment is professor X running? What will happen if OFSTED inspect his school and discover he is radicalising youth into his private army?? Issue 165. NO COLOSSUS NO. |
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X-Men
Dec 21, 2015 20:07:11 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 21, 2015 20:07:11 GMT
But first Paul Smith issue!
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X-Men
Dec 21, 2015 20:41:23 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 21, 2015 20:41:23 GMT
The greatest X-Men artist!
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X-Men
Dec 22, 2015 20:47:07 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 22, 2015 20:47:07 GMT
Haha, the issue where Rogue joins the team is great.
Is New Mutants worth reading, they seem to refer to it a lot
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X-Men
Dec 22, 2015 20:50:56 GMT
Post by Philip Ayres on Dec 22, 2015 20:50:56 GMT
yes! ties in a lot around now.
Walt Simonson is great on X-Men 171!
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X-Men
Dec 22, 2015 21:34:23 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 22, 2015 21:34:23 GMT
Cyclops meets a double of his ex and instantly marries her. Real classy.
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X-Men
Dec 22, 2015 21:35:38 GMT
Post by Andy Turnbull on Dec 22, 2015 21:35:38 GMT
He's splendid.
My 2nd favourite X-Man.
Nightcrawler is tops of course.
Andy
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X-Men
Dec 23, 2015 9:03:00 GMT
Post by blueshift on Dec 23, 2015 9:03:00 GMT
WAIT, Nightcrawler's girlfriend is his (adoptive) sister???????
God dammit X men
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X-Men
Dec 23, 2015 9:15:00 GMT
Post by legios on Dec 23, 2015 9:15:00 GMT
Cyclops meets a double of his ex and instantly marries her. Real classy. Well, Scott is far too straightlaced to live in sin with her at that point in his life... :-) Karl |
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