X-Men

[Andy Turnbull]

Jan 7, 2016 17:46:13 GMT Grand Moff Muffin said:

Jan 7, 2016 17:42:38 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

Heh!

He does the very first part of the Phalanx Covenant -when Banshee springs Emma Frost from the X-Mansion. At that point he retained a bit more of the influence of Art Adams about his work.

His Age of Apocalypse work is probably the last which keeps most of that influence, as we get nearer Onslaught he's more into his classic manga influenced style.

Nah, he wasn't told to draw like Andy K, just simply evolved his style.

Andy

Yes, that makes sense, I really liked Art Adams in Asgardian Wars. Him, Jim Lee and Kubert are probably my top three X-artists. I guess they have a lot of similarities in their style.

Martin

I think we need an X-Poll of artists.

Andy

[The Doctor]

Can't stand Art Adams' style. I dropped books when he came on.

-Ralph

[Andy Turnbull]

Shakes head...

Andy

[Grand Moff Muffin]

FPC had their one copy of 'Age of Apocalypse Vol. 3: Omega' in today, and now it is mine, oh yes.

That's my weekend sorted.

Martin

[Andy Turnbull]

If that has the post AoA mini-series that came out circa 2005 I will be interested to hear your reaction to them.

Andy

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Jan 8, 2016 17:53:59 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

If that has the post AoA mini-series that came out circa 2005 I will be interested to hear your reaction to them.

Andy

No, this one contains:

Weapon X (1995) 3-4, Generation Next 3-4, Gambit and the X-Ternals 3-4, Astonishing X-Men (1995) 4, X-Man 4, X-Calibre 4, Factor X 4, Amazing X-Men (1995) 4, X-Universe 2, X-Men Omega, Age of Apocalypse: The Chosen

There's another one next month containing:

X-Men Chronicles 1-2, Tales From The Age of Apocalypse 1-2, X-Man -1, Blink 1-4; material from X-Men: Age of Apocalypse One-Shot, X-Man Annual '96

And a further one in May containing:

X-Man 53-54; X-Men: Age of Apocalypse 1-6; Exiles (2001) 60-61; What If? (1989) 77, 81; What If? X-Men Age of Apocalypse 1; material from X-MEN: Age of Apocalypse One-Shot, Hulk: Broken Worlds 2, X-Men Prime, X-Men: Endangered Species, Exiles: Days of Then and Now 1

But I'm not sure whether those further volumes are worth spending money on?

Martin

[Andy Turnbull]

The one next month has material that was published around the time. The two X-Men Chronicles were the replacement for the X-Men Unlimited Quarterly title that ran at the time. The first shows a bit of the early X-Men, before Weapon-X and Jean went their own way. The Tales of AoA - feature Cyclops quite heavily. X-Man Annual 96 is some lovely Alan Davis work. Probably worth getting.

The one afterwards...I'm not so sure if I am honest but there is a lot there I haven't read. Phil may have read more of these.

Andy

[Andy Turnbull]

First two of those AoA volumes ordered from Wordery.

Will no doubt get the third soon and the other two.

AoA is still my favourite crossover event.

Andy

[blueshift]

Jan 10, 2016 0:31:47 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

AoA is still my favourite crossover event.

Andy you forgot about Secret Wars 2

[Andy Turnbull]

Jan 10, 2016 0:37:10 GMT blueshift said:

Jan 10, 2016 0:31:47 GMT Andy Turnbull said:

AoA is still my favourite crossover event.

Andy you forgot about Secret Wars 2

I most certainly did not.

Andy

[The Doctor]

Secret Wars II pisses all over AOA from a very, very high height.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

No it doesn't. The central limited series is rambling pish at times.

marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Secret_Wars_II_Vol_1

See issues 3, 5 & 7 especially.

AoA has a central plot with all parts helping to achieve this.

[blueshift]

WHAT IS EAT?

[The Doctor]

Though I have a huge soft spot for it I have never claimed Secret Wars II is 'good'. AOA is unmitigated garbage though.

-Ralph

[blueshift]

I enjoyed the X-Men Secret Wars 2 crossover issues

[Grand Moff Muffin]

Finished reading AoA. Very, very impressed. So nice to have a 40-issue run of comics so well planned out and choreographed from start to finish. It all hangs together really, really well when presented and read in collected form. The creators set out to do a specific experimental thing over half a year and achieved it.

I like Secret Wars II, but it's a very different thing - basically the Beyonder's guided tour through all the ongoing series, almost the opposite of AoA which puts all its ongoing series on hold to do something bold and different. AoA is self-contained, SWII anything but.

I'd have to say AoA edges it as the most satisfying Marvel crossover that I've read to date.

Martin

[Philip Ayres]

The problem with AoA is that Marvel can't leave it alone!

There's a volume coming up with some follow up material in:

www.amazon.co.uk/X-Men-Apocalypse-Twilight-Terry-Kavanagh/dp/0785193448/

I'd say this is worth having but the stuff after that? No.

[Andy Turnbull]

Hived the TF/AoA discussion off into it's own thread.

Andy

[blueshift]

Nearly at the end of my X-Men quest,
What other comic runs pass the quality test?

Bonus poem?
Why is Psylocke asian?
Why is Psylocke asian?
Why is Psylocke asian?
WHY IS PSYLOCKE ASIAN???

[Andy Turnbull]

This is explained sort of in X-Men after the departure of Jim Lee,
I expect it will cause pain to thee,
It's tackled a bit before Magneto's return in Fatal Attractions,
Then once again after the Summers/Grey wedding interruptions

Andy

[blueshift]

Reading through Claremont's New Mutants run on the Marvel App (it has 1-40 and then sporadic issues until Cable and X Force). Via the Scottish character I am learning all about the wild and backwards land of Scotland. I liked that they were shocked at things like cinema and electricity and other such wonders that can be found in America.

[Philip Ayres]

It's always amusing when Marvel US comes to the UK. Once again I post these Marvel Two In One panels for your enjoyment:

[legios]

Ah yes. Reminds me of the Excaliber issue where a Bobby asks Dai Thomas, "Whose the chippe with the great legs." Um, no...in the UK a Chippie is where we get fried food from, and you aren't going to get fried food out of the Summers daughter. Potentially something might fry if she had heard you, but it likely wouldn't be fish or sausage... :-)

Could be worse, several American TV shows seemed convinced we still had steam trains and London Particulars in the 1970s.

Karl

[legios]

Jan 30, 2016 10:58:38 GMT blueshift said:

Reading through Claremont's New Mutants run on the Marvel App (it has 1-40 and then sporadic issues until Cable and X Force). Via the Scottish character I am learning all about the wild and backwards land of Scotland. I liked that they were shocked at things like cinema and electricity and other such wonders that can be found in America.

In fairness, if it is the character I am thinking of she as basically raised as almost a shut-in by a community whom I suspect even the Wee Frees would hold were dangerously, and irrationally conservative...So I will cut them a little slack. I mean, it isn't as if the portrayal of other countries always so accurate in American Comic, da?

Karl

[blueshift]

Yes, but that's pretty much all we have about Scotland in the book. Ultra conservative backwards religious nuts who run about waving pitchforks and being scared of satan and devils.

Also Moira McTaggart who lives on a wild desolate island but has a secret high tech base.

Presumably the locals believe her to be a witch.

[blueshift]

Jan 30, 2016 11:07:16 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Speaking of Stonehenge, was there ever a reason given why they needed to give Captain Britain a fictional stone circle for his origin story.

Did they think Stonehenge was under copyright or something?

[Andy Turnbull]

Just to allow that almost set in the real world sleight of hand the Marvel Universe used to be really good at, as there wouldn't be any top secret facilities that near Stonehenge.

Andy

[blueshift]

Don't be silly Andy; there's the Pandorica underneath it for a start!!

[Philip Ayres]

Stonehenge is in the middle of Salisbury Plain greats chunks of which are MOD property, including Porton Down. Ideal location for a top secret research base!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salisbury_Plain

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porton_Down

[Andy Turnbull]

Enough of your real world facts!