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Post by The Doctor on May 1, 2008 16:13:35 GMT
It should do. Is Lee/Kirby Thor in there? Or Simonson Thor? Both seminal runs.
-Ralph
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 1, 2008 16:32:50 GMT
Yeah they are both earlier on in the running the master list can be found here.Andy |
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Post by legios on May 1, 2008 20:11:07 GMT
Yeah they are both earlier on in the running the master list can be found here.Andy Gratifying to see some of the runs that I have a fondness for chart so highly ("Suicide Squad" and the James Robinson "Starman" both appearing far higher than I would have expected). Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 2, 2008 6:53:02 GMT
Well.... that's opened it up a bit tomorrow.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 2, 2008 8:19:33 GMT
Great googally moogally.
It's going to be fucking Sandman.
Balls.
Andy
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 2, 2008 8:49:57 GMT
Come on Byrne/Claremont !
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 3, 2008 8:07:22 GMT
Blow.
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Post by legios on May 3, 2008 10:36:00 GMT
"Sandman" in the number one slot? All I can say is that I am clearly widely at odds with the general taste - and couldn't be happier to be so- as I think Sandman is pretentious nonsense.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on May 3, 2008 16:05:57 GMT
SANDMAN???!!!!! FUCK'S SAKE!
Also, the appeal of Claremont/Byrne X-Men continues to elude me to this day, Days of Future Past aside.
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 3, 2008 18:24:35 GMT
To a certain extent I agree. The problem with Byrne/Claremont is you know it's going to end with Phoenix dieing and despite it's laudedness the story has never really done anything for me.
That said....
My goodness it does look good. I'm a fan of Byrne's art and it's consistantly good in that "traditional marvel style but with more detail" way that Byrne has. The run introduces Guardian , Alpha Flight and Kitty Pryde plus the Hellfire Club. It's got *THE* best comic cover of all time in it 141
If you were asking me my fave Uncanny X-Men run of all time I'd go for Paul Smith's as this is the story I keep coming back to. I'm also fond of Jim lee's Uncanny issues - before he came on board the art had got bogged down and (as always) when teamed with a decent artist Claremont upped his game (was there ever a writer who was so dependant on his artists like this ?)
I'm pretty sure I nominated as my all time #1 run is the Morrison/Quitely New X-Men run. Purely on the strength of those first 3 issues which are complete dynamite.
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Post by legios on May 3, 2008 20:59:12 GMT
when teamed with a decent artist Claremont upped his game (was there ever a writer who was so dependant on his artists like this ?) I'd be half-inclined to say Paul Levitz. The difference between different artist runs on "Legion of Superheroes" is quite distinct in my opinion. The Byrne /Claremont X-Men run is one of those things that I can understand folk not being so fond of. It isn't up to the standard of Claremont/Smith by a long way. I have a certain fondness for it which outstrips its actual value - one of those things that I encountered at a particular age I guess. Like the Marvel Godzilla or Neal Adams batman. Karl |
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Post by Philip Ayres on May 3, 2008 21:20:23 GMT
I'm trying to remember what I voted for:
Claremont/Smith X-Men
Stern Avengers
Claremont Byrne X-Men
Byrne FF
Brubaker Cap
Morrison X-Men
Simonson Thor
all made it through to the top 100
Byrne Alpha Flight
Didn't
Can't rememeber the other 2 runs for the life of me ....
Oh hang on, I think I nominated Brubaker/Fraction Iron Fist.
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Post by Rich on May 5, 2008 18:02:44 GMT
Wow, I'm surprised at the strength of anti-Sandman feeling around here. The series is by far my favourite piece of graphic storytelling (not claiming to have a vast knowledge by any stretch), and it's also one of my favourite stories in any form. First read it while at uni: just picked it up at random from the local library not knowing anything about it and loved it.I'm currently re-reading it at the moment for about the fourth time, and still finding loads of new stuff about it to enjoy. The only volume I really have a problem with is World's End, which just drags a lot. I like the series' its pretension and it's hard not to be in love with Death.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on May 5, 2008 18:07:55 GMT
I read the first two trades and while I thought the first one was okay, the second was pretty dull reading for me.
I've read worse comics but I struggle to see the spell it has over so many people.
Andy
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Post by Rich on May 5, 2008 18:54:47 GMT
A few things I love about Sandman: Lucifer locking hell, the characters, much of the art (particularly some of the layouts in the early volumes), Brutus and Glob, Gaiman's almost unparalleled skills of intertextual cross-pollination, the fact it makes me want to go away and learn things and think about things, the complex structure and above all else the mood, which is often sombre and introspective but with a dash of humour and moments of light - at times it's like the most beautifully melancholy piece of music.
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