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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 29, 2020 20:46:38 GMT
I have no idea who that is. Apart from RiD Magnus. and it wouldn't be him cos he isn't G1. The one with the long teeth? |
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2020 20:47:06 GMT
Incorrect numbers Starscream I removed from this count to ensure he was only represented once, so yes, Martin is right! The most average of all G1 Transformers is Ironhide!
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 29, 2020 20:52:31 GMT
When am ah gonna start bustin' Deceptichops?
-Ironhide
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Post by Shockprowl on Jul 29, 2020 21:15:36 GMT
IRONHIDE!!!!
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2020 21:40:22 GMT
Honorable mentions go to:
2nd by a whisker: Dogfight
3rd: Pointblank, Blitzwing and Mindwipe
6th: Groundbreaker
The Autobots here all show the same trait that crops up a lot - Budiansky was clearly a fan of giving middling characters with no stand out traits Courage 10 just so they had something to make them noteworthy. That comes up a lot.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 29, 2020 21:56:46 GMT
It's also noticeable that once you get past 1991, the average tech spec scores rise dramatically. The lowest average is 7 and there are tens all over the place.
Overlord is weird though, Intelligence 3, Speed 3 and Skill 2 offset by Endurance 10, Strength 9 and Courage 9. So what we're saying is that he's a complete idiot with no obvious ability in anything except being an impenetrable wall. Does not make sense he's Rank 10 then. He's very similar to Omega Supreme, but Omega is more skillful and intelligent and beats him on Firepower.
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Post by Jaymz on Jul 30, 2020 0:20:00 GMT
Euro Overlord Rank 10 kinda makes sense from the back of the box blurb. It's him vs the Motorvators. Top rank because there isn't anyone else.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Jul 30, 2020 4:28:03 GMT
'Course, Japanese Masterforce Overlord's tech-specs ratings are much more impressive. And according to soundwavesoblivion.com, his Gigatank and Megajet modules had their own ratings:
Overlord: 10, 10, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 9, 78
Giga: 9, 8, 7, 10, 10, 7, 7, 7, 65
Mega: 7, 8, 10, 7, 10, 7, 7, 9, 65
Martin
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2020 7:02:35 GMT
Japanese G1 will be next in. I had thought this table could eventually have every tech spec in it, which is why there's the field for the line, but I'm already noticing it's getting slower to load and sort. I could enable pagination on it to see if that helps, but then I always find it annoying looking at lists across several pages. We could have different tables for different lines, but that defeats the object of being able to compare the characters.
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 30, 2020 7:14:24 GMT
Euro Overlord Rank 10 kinda makes sense from the back of the box blurb. It's him vs the Motorvators. Top rank because there isn't anyone else. It wasn't until I started applying years to these figures that I noticed that. Do we know if the 1991 Action Masters were already planned when Hasbro stopped the line in the US? So in the UK the Motorvators and Overlord were used to pad out the line that year when the action masters ran out? That's helped me realise why the Turbomasters and Predators are so highly regarded here, being the first Transformers produced specifically for Europe. I mean I suppose I did know that, it's just putting all this in a table has helped my brain sort it all out more clearly. Am I right in thinking there was no tie-in media at all for 91-93 other than the end of TF:UK? Which is where TMUK was born after Matt's letter in the last issue and it was only in zines that Thunderclash et al got stories? My TF involvement then was really weak. I started university in 92 so I had other things on my mind. Mostly SF conventions. |
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Post by The Doctor on Jul 30, 2020 7:32:24 GMT
Nowt in the UK though maybe in Germany?
-Ralph
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jul 30, 2020 7:34:05 GMT
We reach 1991 in the catalogue poll TOMORROW when we can see the glory of that year's catalogue
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Post by Pinwig on Jul 31, 2020 11:50:35 GMT
Anyone happen to have the gold box classic version of Astrotrain's tech spec? Its the only one I can't find anywhere to compare to the G1 version.
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Post by Jaymz on Jul 31, 2020 20:48:38 GMT
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 1, 2020 12:39:04 GMT
You star! Thanks.
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 9, 2020 12:18:48 GMT
Correction to last night's quiz: Martin scores a point for Question 8 - which noun appears most frequently in mottos. It is victory (20 times), which he suggested, not enemy (18) as I said. I hadn't realised when I did the questions that the Micromasters had individual mottos on the back of their cards. I've added all those to my list now and uploaded it as a separate table: www.pinwig.net/mottosI've also fixed a bug in the tech spec table that meant if you used the name drop down to pick any character with a partner they didn't appear. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Aug 17, 2020 7:04:52 GMT
I hadn't realised when I did the questions that the Micromasters had individual mottos on the back of their cards. I've added all those to my list now and uploaded it as a separate table: www.pinwig.net/mottosThe Micromaster patrol members had individual mottos. The Micromaster combiners had one motto per pairing, i.e. half a motto each. I think we must accept that this means that when a Micromaster combines with someone other than their usual partner, the combined form's motto changes accordingly. So! Phaser combined with Missile Master ('Phase Master') has the motto: "Peace in space is always high!" Meltdown combined with Spaceshot ('Meltshot') has the motto: "Ramming speed is the cornerstone of victory!" Grit combined with Slide ('Grit Slide') has the motto: "Only our Decepticon victory controls destiny!" Make your own fun in lockdown today with mixed-up mottos! Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Aug 17, 2020 9:45:22 GMT
I had no idea the mottos combined!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Aug 17, 2020 11:15:26 GMT
They aren't designed to... Martin's cleverly fitting bits together.
Although his is also combining Autobots with Decepticons. Which is very naughty indeed.
This has also pointed out to me that on both my charts the Micromasters who come with the larger bases aren't in there by name, which makes them harder to find. I'll have to fix that.
Barrage Burner - There's no speed when things get hot.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 12, 2021 22:32:00 GMT
Techspec values you'd change Nomination One:
Trailbreaker's strength.
A character who has never been at the forefront of my attentions has had a rapid climb in my affections of late, thanks partly to his outstanding Earthrise figure, and complex characterisation.
I have never seen a G1 Trailbreaker, but my brother had Hoist, so I'm familiar with the mold. It's a solid, bulky form, if a little skinny in the limbs.
The Earthrise figure is amazingly faithful to the proportions and feel of the G1 mold. And it's a mold that is bigger than the normal deluxe sized figures. When you consider several smaller Autobot cars- Prowl, Wheeljack, Sideswipe, achieve a strength of 7, Trailbreaker's 7 seems somewhat... inadequate.
I therefore suggest a more accurate Strength value for Trailbreaker would be 8.
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Post by Toph on Feb 12, 2021 22:50:06 GMT
Actionmaster Thundercracker needs a stat change. All existing stats must here to be changed to solid 10s Plus an added stat and a motto change. Appearance and Motto:  |
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 13, 2021 10:13:52 GMT
Change none of them. Bob's word is Law.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 15, 2021 22:03:31 GMT
Really struggling with the RTS vs SS86 Jazz decision. I can't tell which is the one that goes in the display. They're both worthy. PROWL IS SECOND IN COMMAND! |
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 15, 2021 22:09:29 GMT
But not when it comes to the Sideswipe/Sunstreaker mix-up, apparently.
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Post by Benn on Feb 15, 2021 22:14:08 GMT
Don’t even think it.
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Post by Benn on Feb 15, 2021 22:16:34 GMT
True that. Jazz is Special Ops.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 15, 2021 22:25:16 GMT
I'm sorry, but it's true. God-Bob wrote them the other way round.
I... I know it hurts, to realise that. And it never stops hurting once you realise... The Truth.
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Post by Pinwig on Feb 15, 2021 22:38:41 GMT
Prowl and Jazz are joint seconds. The Who's Who is law.
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Post by Shockprowl on Feb 15, 2021 23:07:12 GMT
Funny. I thought Bob was Law.
PROWL, RANK- 9
JAZZ, RANK- 8
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Post by Toph on Feb 15, 2021 23:29:29 GMT
And Uncle Bob didn't write all of them!
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