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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2020 20:35:01 GMT
Other limb combinations are available.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2020 20:36:23 GMT
You have betrayed the SPECIAL TEAMS!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2020 20:57:46 GMT
No I haven't. We've done this!
The Special Teams were special BECAUSE the limbs were interchangeable.
Besides, since when are the Seacons one of the special teams?
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2020 20:59:54 GMT
No!
Remember the SPECIAL TEAMS! You are talking about Scramble City! We didn't get that back in the say! We got the SPECIAL TEAMS! The clue is in the name!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2020 21:00:32 GMT
TEAMS!!! TEAMS!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2020 21:06:02 GMT
I know what the Special Teams are!
They're the original four. Seacons aren't one of the big four. Also, Special Teams were sold as having interchangeable limbs. I'm not talking Scramble City.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2020 21:08:36 GMT
No! No they weren't!!! Each SPECIAL TEAMS member had their SPECIAL PLACE!!!
DON'T BEND REALITY, PINWIG!!!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2020 21:12:29 GMT
Phil! Help! Ralph's gone wrong again!
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 29, 2020 21:18:42 GMT
I'm not bending any houses!
Look at the official leaflet officially included with official special teams toys. It officially says in official bold lettering that any official vehicle can officially form any official arm or leg of an official combined form.
Official!
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Post by Toph on Mar 29, 2020 21:32:16 GMT
CAR LEG CAR LEG CAR LEG
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 30, 2020 6:04:41 GMT
Each SPECIAL TEAMS member had their SPECIAL PLACE!!! OK, Ralph, let's examine this. Please tell us what each Special Team member's Special Place was. Defensor's right arm was Defensor's left arm was Defensor's right leg was Defensor's left leg was Superion's right arm was Superion's left arm was Superion's right leg was Superion's left leg was Mensaor's right arm was Menasor's left arm was Menasor's right leg was Menasor's left leg was Bruticus's right arm was Bruticus's left arm was Bruticus's right leg was Bruticus's left leg was Ralph, please complete the above and reveal these Special Places of which you speak, so that we all know how to transform our toys correctly. Martin |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Mar 30, 2020 7:08:48 GMT
I'm not bending any houses! Look at the official leaflet officially included with official special teams toys. It officially says in official bold lettering that any official vehicle can officially form any official arm or leg of an official combined form. Official! Click for larger versions:     |
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 7:31:27 GMT
Thanks, Phil. I was looking for those last night but fell asleep before I got one linked.
Official!
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2020 7:36:39 GMT
I'm confused by one thing. Special Teams AREN'T Scramble City, are they? I thought Scramble City were what Special Teams were before they joined Transformers. Like the '84ers were diaclone before becoming Transformers.
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 7:52:40 GMT
When the Special Teams came out in Transformers in Japan they had their own subline name - Scramble City. The toys in that line were the four Special Teams, Metroplex, Trypticon, Ultra Magnus and Galvatron. Remember at the time, Japan didn't get TF the movie, so Ultra M & Galavatron took the 'City Commander' roles that bled over into their Hasbro Tech Specs. There was a one off anime that went with that, and the line takes its name from the Japanese name for Metroplex - Scramble City.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2020 7:55:27 GMT
Ahhh, it was a Japanese thing, not a pre-Transformers thing... Gotcha.
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2020 7:57:06 GMT
Ok, so, in Scramble City the limbs could change position? Even between torsos?
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 8:42:56 GMT
Ahhh, it was a Japanese thing, not a pre-Transformers thing... Gotcha. Yes. Although Ultra Magnus reused a Diaclone mould. Metroplex and the four Special Teams were intended for a Diaclone line in 1985, but that didn't happen because by that point the Transformers were so popular they went straight into that instead. |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2020 9:02:24 GMT
Ok, so, in Scramble City the limbs could change position? Even between torsos? No. -RALPH |
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Post by Shockprowl on Mar 30, 2020 9:04:10 GMT
Hmmm, thank you for that, Doc', but I fear you might be ever so slightly bias...
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 9:21:31 GMT
Ok, so, in Scramble City the limbs could change position? Even between torsos? If we step back through this very thread we encounter images that cause Ralph great distress that show exactly this:  |
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Post by Benn on Mar 30, 2020 10:11:32 GMT
Ok, so, in Scramble City the limbs could change position? Even between torsos? No. -RALPH Wasn’t there a bit in Scramble City where one of the Stunticons and Aerialbots swapped places to throw the combiner off? Or am I misremembering? |
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 10:25:11 GMT
No, you're right. When Superion and Menasor fight they show how they can swap their own limbs around (not helped by animation colouring errors that mean Menasor's limbs swap back and forth from shot to shot) but Menasor tries to defeat Superion by firing Dead End (one of two Dead Ends attached to him at the time...) at him. He connects to his leg.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2020 11:54:12 GMT
Scramble City is not SPECIAL TEAMS!
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Mar 30, 2020 11:56:43 GMT
Ah, so you're saying Scramble City combiners are allowed to swap their limbs around?
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2020 12:00:16 GMT
I will only discuss what was released here back in the day.
SPECIAL TEAMS.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Mar 30, 2020 12:29:22 GMT
Special Team limbs are interchangeable according to the Special Team instructions and design of the toys.
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2020 14:02:31 GMT
Not in Marvel.
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Mar 30, 2020 14:37:22 GMT
Yes they were. The Special Teams wallchart stated which robot formed which limb, but it didn't match the pictures on the wall chart which in turn didn't match the Transformers Universe model sheets.  For example, the wallchart says First Aid is Defensor's left leg, but in the picture (and TFU) he's the left arm. And it says Dead End is Menasor's left arm (in agreement with the TFU pic), but in the picture / box art he's the right leg. In TFU/A-Z, Air Raid is Superion's right arm, the wall sheet says he's the left leg, but in the picture on the wall chart he's the right leg. In TFU/A-Z, Brawl is Bruticus's left leg, below Vortex the arm. On the wall sheet, Brawl is on the right, below Blast Off. They move around! This has been pointed out to you before!!! Martin |
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 30, 2020 14:48:06 GMT
Lies! LIES!!!
None of my copies came with the SPECIAL TEAMS cards!
-Ralph
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