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Post by blueshift on Oct 13, 2019 14:55:35 GMT
Wait, Ralph denies SCRAMBLE POWER???
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 13, 2019 15:16:06 GMT
Wait, Ralph denies SCRAMBLE POWER???  Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 13, 2019 15:29:27 GMT
I recall Ralph does not permit limbs to change between teams, but I'm not totally sure if limbs are able to take different positions on their correct combined form.
However, that is nothing compared to having two of the SAME character at the same time.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2019 15:36:41 GMT
This perplexes me. Ralph is fine with multiple copies of the same character coexisting, yet Swindle can't be an arm and Hound can't hold Prowl's gun. WHAT. I direct you to the toy packaging, tech specs, comics and cartoons. -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2019 15:37:13 GMT
This perplexes me. Ralph is fine with multiple copies of the same character coexisting, yet Swindle can't be an arm and Hound can't hold Prowl's gun. WHAT. Wait, Ralph denies SCRAMBLE POWER??? Scramble Power did not exist in the 80'd snd early 90's in the UK. -Ralph |
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Post by Benn on Oct 13, 2019 15:38:14 GMT
I can think of at least one occasion in the cartoon in which Wheeljack uses both Sideswipe and Bluestreak's guns.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2019 15:38:42 GMT
I recall Ralph does not permit limbs to change between teams, but I'm not totally sure if limbs are able to take different positions on their correct combined form. However, that is nothing compared to having two of the SAME character at the same time. Each limb has one and only one CORRECT position in combined form for each team. Do you not recall the mythos of the SPECIAL TEAMS?? -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 15:51:24 GMT
I don't recall this from it.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 13, 2019 16:02:32 GMT
I direct you to the toy packaging, tech specs, comics and cartoons. Each limb has one and only one CORRECT position in combined form for each team. Bruticus's box art has Swindle as the left leg, under the Vortex arm. The instructions and TFU art / model sheet have Swindle as the right leg, under the Blast Off arm. Menasor's box art and instructions have Dead End as a leg and Breakdown as an arm. His TFU art / model sheet has Dead End as an arm and Breakdown as a leg. Superion's instructions have Air Raid and Skydive as arms. His box art has Fireflight and Slingshot as arms. His TFU art / model sheet has Air Raid and Slingshot as arms. Defensor's instructions and TFU art / model sheet have Streetwise as a leg, First Aid as an arm. His box art has First Aid as a leg, Streetwise as an arm. Most damningly, the instructions say in bold capitals that "Each vehicle is interchangeable and can form any arm or leg of Defensor" etc. Martin |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 13, 2019 16:22:37 GMT
Each limb has one and only one CORRECT position in combined form for each team. Do you not recall the mythos of the SPECIAL TEAMS?? Ah, there we go. I thought so. I really think you're on your own with that one. |
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 13, 2019 16:30:36 GMT
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 13, 2019 16:34:42 GMT
What, are you saying one of Burns' Holy Texts is wrong?
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 13, 2019 16:57:50 GMT
Ahhh, that Special Teams wall chart takes me back.....
I kinda know where Doc' is coming from here. In My Mind each member has a specific and correct place. Like electrons in their shells.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2019 20:07:20 GMT
Each limb has one and only one CORRECT position in combined form for each team. Do you not recall the mythos of the SPECIAL TEAMS?? Ah, there we go. I thought so. I really think you're on your own with that one. BUT IT'S THE SPECIAL $£"£$£** TEAMS!!! -Ralph |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 13, 2019 20:17:32 GMT
I would say that the limbs have a default position we recognise as being their place, but one of the selling points of the combiners is that their limbs are interchangeable. As has been pointed out, it does say that in the instructions.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 13, 2019 20:20:15 GMT
Lies. Lies.
SPECIAL TEAMS.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 13, 2019 20:33:08 GMT
Not lies. Bottom middle of the instruction sheet that came with UK toys.  |
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 13, 2019 22:21:12 GMT
Ahhh, that Special Teams wall chart takes me back..... I kinda know where Doc' is coming from here. In My Mind each member has a specific and correct place. Like electrons in their shells. Electrons in their orbitals are not in one place. |
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 14, 2019 6:15:31 GMT
But they have a preferred energy state. 8 in the second shell. A combiner's correct formation is like that. Like a compy armchair that's molded perfectly to your rear.
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 14, 2019 6:20:50 GMT
Well, Blades, Vortex and Blast Off always seem to be arms and never legs, presumably because they're already flying around up there anyway. Don't think I've ever seen them as legs. Which means Brawl and Swindle never have too high to jump.
Mind you, if one member of the team is unavailable, I think any Special Team would opt to go without an arm for a bit rather than have two arms but have to hop around on one leg until the missing chap turns up.
Martin
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 14, 2019 6:26:03 GMT
Yes! Absolutely! It's quite logical really.
The only question marks I've ever had are- 1. Groove being a leg- he looks good being a leg but really fits better being an arm, and 2. Superion. I've never been able to pin his limbs down. They're interchangable in My Mind.
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Post by Llama God on Oct 14, 2019 6:36:12 GMT
BUT IT'S THE SPECIAL $£"£$£** TEAMS!!! You can swap positions whilst you're doing that, too. |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 14, 2019 6:40:32 GMT
It's more fun that way.
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 7, 2019 20:36:11 GMT
SCRAMBLE!  |
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 7, 2019 20:40:41 GMT
woaw
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 7, 2019 20:52:04 GMT
BUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT 8:34??
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 7, 2019 21:11:06 GMT
Dinner.
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Post by Shockprowl on Dec 7, 2019 21:36:21 GMT
NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by The Doctor on Dec 7, 2019 23:38:16 GMT
Then Trypticon has won.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Mar 29, 2020 20:32:26 GMT
Ah the risk of incurring the wrath of Ralph, the combination with two blue legs and two white arms looks pleasingly symmetrical. Like that. I need to pay my balance but I'm pondering whether to put anything else in with the order. No, Pinwig, no! -Ralph |
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