I would have thought looking at the style that it was more like unused T30 toy. That would make it contemporary with the Smokescreen mould in terms of production, just a different line.
If they were doing a seeker mould we know they'd reuse it to death, so maybe it was shelved when it was decided to release the seekers using Jetfire's mould. Pity, looks nice. Would probably have lead to Starscream overkill. Been quite a few in the last few years and two more releases this year with the MP reissue and the Leader.
Grrrrr that Voyager Strike Plane mold looks pretty darn good indeed, much more preferable than the leader sized Jetfire repaints. The potential Prowl mold is ok, but looks more like Jazz with roof-lights to me. Prowl demands perfection, of course.
I was the one who let you know, I was your sorry ever after, '84, '85. Give me new toys and I'll decide, but I'm really only after, '84, '85.
Or a photograph of a Two-up used in the development of Legion\Legends\whatever Starscream? The fact that it has some distinct similarities in terms of the wing-folding does make me wonder if it bears a relation to that rather than anything else.
Yeah. Starscream seems to me to be a product of developing that crappy "legend."
It's not uncommon at all for toy companies to make oversized versions as mock ups when designing/sculpting figures. We've not seen it much in TF, but it's widespread in actionfigures, and no reason to believe it's not used in TF more often than we see.
This Starscream looks like it'd make a terrible voyager, given all the hollowness in it.
Over-sized and simplified toys for the Generations line. Hmmm. As I've said before, I have no problem with some of these toys being simplified, because they are, of course, toys. For children. So if they're accessible to children, and there are still more complex toys for the older collector, then that's great. However, given that these larger, simplified toys are carrying a correspondingly higher price tag (and not a smaller one, to more accurately reflect their complexity), I'm not sure how much this effort is going to help the line. But then, this is from a company that puts out Titan Heroes, so anything's possible...
That aside, these could end up being... interesting. And Megatron doesn't look too bad at all. I'm just hoping that there'll be a re-mold of that released that looks more like current IDW Galvatron...
I have to say that I really like the look of the Tank mode for that Megatron. It feels like it has a bit of the aesthetic of both Matt Plog and Stephen Huda's artwork to it (the thick slab-sided feel of some of Plog's designs, with that simple colour scheme giving it a kind of sharply-defined look like Huda's rendered art). Not sure wether the toys themselves are entirely to my taste, but that vehicle mode is a really nice looking design.
Both are Simplified Generations figures. So into the same thread they go.
It'll be interesting to see if they are both from the same line because the feeling was at the time that Starscream was an abandoned concept but just a peak at those toys make me think he'd fit in fine with them.
And rumour of an MP Megs, to boot. (I wouldn't try booting MP-05 - he'll shatter before your foot even makes contact.) I know they like to focus on the core characters, but I'm also pretty sure that the original G1 run (by which I don't just mean 1984) had more than a handful of characters...
*lightning crackles down and envelopes Phil, heralding a remarkable transformation...*
I keep glancing back at the tank mode for that Megatron, not because I'm particularly fussed about buying the toy in due course, but because the tank mode is so nice I really want to stat something up in Battletech that looks like it. I keep thinking about how those shoulder bits amidships almost look like they have Sponson turrets. If only the Heavy Gauss Rifle could be mounted in a turret :-( (although it looks like it might not turn, so maybe it wouldn't count as a turret, so it could be a horrendous 80 -90 ton slab of "stay away from this quarter of the map" device with tracks on...).
To get back on track - does anyone think that the Bumblebee looks very influenced by the RiD design in terms of the general sensibility of it?
Hurrah! They've up-scaled the Legends Optimus Prime!
Oh, arse - they've up-scaled the wrong one! Dammit. Why couldn't it have been the IDW Legends version that they upscaled.
And, also... I just don't understand. I got it with RiD (and AoE before it) that they were going to have more simplistic toys for the younger kids, and that made sense because those are the lines that were being pushed across all age groups. But Generations, I thought, were for the more mature group. Will the younger age groups be after these more G1-like versions of the characters? It's really quite odd.
And, also, they're not that good, either. I know I said elsewhere that I like RiD Warrior Prime, but that's a bit of an oddness to me. And it's a new version of the character. Most of these characters have already been done in this style previously, and better. Apart from Grimlock, mind you. That's just so crazy that it actually works. I might have to get one. But not at full price...
I was about to say that I quite liked that Starscream. Then I looked at the fighter mode, and specifically the hideous mess is appears to have for a dorsal surface... Ach. If it had been an Actionmastery thing without an Altmode fine, but that fighter mode...*shudders*. Still do like the look of the Megatron though. Lovely clean look to it, and the tank-hunter-esque alt-mode is great - just a slab of armour with a gun attached.
Transformers has always been an expensive line. I suspect these figures are based on the rise of the Poundland-based toy shoppers. Ralph, remember how many hits your youtube videos reviewing Poundland toys used to get.
"I used to think it was a terrible thing that life was so unfair. Then I thought, 'what if life were fair, and all of the terrible things that happen to us came because we really deserved them?' Now I take great comfort in the general unfairness and hostility of the universe." — Marcus Cole, Babylon 5 — A Late Delivery from Avalon
I actually think these are a good idea. I actually think that they would sell really well in Falkirk if they are priced decently. In the current economic climate the price for deluxe and voyager figures is definitely cutting into sales (Combiner Wars is the first time our Smyths has actually had to do a restock on a Transformers line since it opened). If these are transformable figures at a lower price point then I can see them actually selling reasonably well - well, apart from the Bumblebee as even Wilkinsons can't shift the Falkirk Bumblebeen Mountain.