How many XYZ toys do you own?

[Philip Ayres]

Oct 16, 2024 7:21:46 GMT The Doctor said:

Tailgate is the best G1 car.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

Week G: How many Ravage toys do you own now?

[Jim]

Nov 4, 2024 7:41:22 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Week G: How many Ravage toys do you own now?

1. Henkei
2. Encore
3. Hasbro MP
4. TFC reissue
5. Netflix
6. PulseCon Agent Ravage
7. PulseCon Ravage
8. Tripredacus Agent
9. Smallest Transforming Transformers

[Philip Ayres]

OWN


1) Encore Great Cassette Operation 1
2) Decepticons Forever Ravage

The original Ravage is a lovely toy, never been beaten yet.

3) Energon

Ah the Energon Ravage is good fun, with it'a clear Megatron Fusion cannon. Could have done with a G1 acurate coloured version.

4) Botcon 2016

Good idea, less said about the head the better though!

5) BW Japan Shadow Panther

The first BW Ravage!

6) Titan Return Ravage

7) LG-37 Legends Jaguar with Bullhorn

Far better deco than Titans Return Ravage. All black body for a start!

8) Siege

9) WFC Trilogy

10) Legacy United

11) Kingdom Shadow Panther

12) Pulsecon Covert Agent Ravage

Have Owned

1) Transformers Collection 18

Another reissue of the original

2) BW Metals Ravage

Oh I mourn the selling of this toy dearly and would love a reissue. ££££ to replace now

3) BW TMII Tripredicus Agent

Another lovely Cheetor repaint. These were easy money in the late 90s/early 2000s

4) Universe 2

This was the pack in with Hound and was a great reinterpretation of Ravage.

5) Superlink Ravage

Different coloured energy weapons IIRC

6) Energon Command Ravage

Limited edition Japanese toy which was then surprisingly sold in the west!

7) Movie Legend

It's a movie toy, the less said the better

8) FOC

Utter poo. Never Transformed properly.

[Jim]

Oh, I didn't think of Energon Ravage. I do like that toy. Revised list:

1. Energon Battle Ravage
2. Henkei
3. Encore
4. Hasbro MP
5. TFC reissue
6. Netflix
7. PulseCon Agent Ravage
8. PulseCon Ravage
9. Superlink Command Jaguar Desert Type
10. Tripredacus Agent
11. Smallest Transforming Transformers

[The Doctor]

We do not speak of WST Ravage.

-Ralph

[Benn]

1. Universe 2008
2. G1 Series 2009
3. Masterpiece 2013
4. Titans Return 2016
5. Legends 2016
6. Netflix 2020
7. Robot Heroes 2007

[that_bluestreak]

Nov 4, 2024 7:41:22 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Week G: How many Ravage toys do you own now?

ok, lets see.

1. OG Ravage.
2. cheap red plastic OS KO Ravage
3. a different OK KO Ravage that came with an OS KO Soundblaster in Soundwave colours.
4. Robot Heroes Ravage
5. Cartoon colours Ravage

I've also owned the TFC Soundwave that came with Ravage

I have a movie Ravage for sale at the moment, weird one-eye creature!

[Shockprowl]

RAVAGE!

G1
G1 reissue
Energon
Classics (the one that came with Hound)
Siege
Data disk
Masterpiece

I have a Beast Wars fellow with shiny gold bits who I call Ravage but I'm not sure he is actually Ravage.

A 3P huge Masterpiece style one.


So 7 or 8 (or 9).

[Philip Ayres]

Nov 4, 2024 22:28:10 GMT Shockprowl said:

I have a Beast Wars fellow with shiny gold bits who I call Ravage but I'm not sure he is actually Ravage.

He's Tripredicus Agent, so effectively yes

tfwiki.net/wiki/Ravage_(G1)/toys#TM2



It's meant to be Ravage rebuilt after his destruction in Agenda part 3

[The Doctor]

But it was not sold as a Ravage toy.

YOU. LOOOOOOOSE.

-Ralph

[Philip Ayres]

It's still Ravage, if you read the bio..... which is more than you can say for Galvatron/Megatron.

You took no issue with my inclusion of Shadow Panther?

[The Doctor]

But Phil, you are the one who insists remakes with the same name can only be the same person. This is not a Ravage toy.

-ralph

[Philip Ayres]

That is somewhat simplifying my argument.

If something looks like a previous toy it should have the appropriate name wherever possible.

Use of a previous name will automatically invoke the previous character in fans minds so care should be taken using previous names.

As we have covered previously there are some "interesting" choices made, especially during the Unicron Trilogy.

In this particular case we have a toy whose name is more a function which is fulfilled by Ravage in the BW Cartoon. The bio steers us to thinking we know this character by other names and has more than one pointer to Ravage

tfu.info/2001/Predacon/TripredacusAgent/tripredacusagent.htm

"Deception is the nemesis of detection."

His outer appearance resembles that of a Maximal, but within beats the fuel pump of a devious espionage agent! A former saboteur, this agent adopted several aliases while involved with the Beast Wars. As an assassin, he works best when operating solo. His irradiated spark, which was salvaged by the Vok, allows him to cloak his energy signature. Carries a low-radiation proton bomb launcher, with laser targeting. His only weakness is sensitivity to bright light.

tfu.info/1984/Decepticon/Ravage/ravage.htm

Function: Saboteur

"Today's Autobots are tomorrow's scrap metal."

Ravage operates best alone. A creature of the night. Craftiest of all Decepticons. Adept at devising deadly new strategies. Remains aloof from others, but his deeds command their respect. Can virually escape detection -- emits an electromagnetic emmission shield, has soundless walk, disappears in subdued light or shadow. Carries 2 powerful heat-seeking missiles. Light-sensitive. Can be blinded.

Both TFU and TFWiki count this toy, and Shadow Panther, as being Ravage. That will do for me in this case.

[The Doctor]

But it wasn't sold as Ravage and those sites did not exist when the toy came out. This is altering the facts from the future.

When this toy came out it was sold as Tripedicus Agent.

-Ralph

[Benn]

And the only Tripredacus Agent we'd seen was Ravage from the show. I think it's safe to make that call.

Any idea why they didn't call it Ravage? Lost copyright?

[Philip Ayres]

That's what the notes on the wiki say tfwiki.net/wiki/Ravage_(G1)/toys#Notes

[Fortmax2020]

I feel sorry for the Tripedacus Council. Only one agent. Must be a nightmare to get anything done.

[Philip Ayres]

They are pretty rubbish to be fair.

If they do have other agents I'm sure they're not so similar to the one we see on screen

[The Doctor]

Similar body types appear to be quite common on Cybertron.

-Ralph

[Shockprowl]

Nov 4, 2024 22:54:05 GMT The Doctor said:

But it was not sold as a Ravage toy.

YOU. LOOOOOOOSE.

-Ralph

Hey, bite me, Blondie! *WE* write the stories!

[Shockprowl]

Nov 4, 2024 23:08:57 GMT Philip Ayres said:

It's still Ravage, if you read the bio..... which is more than you can say for Galvatron/Megatron.

You took no issue with my inclusion of Shadow Panther?

Kick his ass, Big Phil!

[legios]

Nov 4, 2024 7:41:22 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Week G: How many Ravage toys do you own now?

I'm not actually sure on this one. I can't remember if my Classics Ravage has gone to Toy-Fu yet or if it is still in The Box awaiting its turn to be moved on. So it is possible I currently own 2, but if all has gone to plan then the answer is currently:-

1. "The Transformers" Ravage.


Karl

[Grand Moff Muffin]

I have the Ravage 2-pack.

So I guess that counts as two.

Martin

[Llama God]

Only if you're sure he's actually in there - he is very sneaky...

As for me, not many, despite Ravage being one of my favourite characters (once again being very much the fault of The Enemy Within) - I never managed to get the original back in the day, and in fact didn't own a version of the original mold until a couple of years ago. Here's what I do have:

1. Alternators Battle Ravage (bipedal)
2. Alternators Ravage (quadripedal)
3. Masterpiece
4. FoC Data Disk
5. WFC Cybertronian Form)
6. Covert Agent Ravage
7. Decepticons Forever Ravage
8. RotF Legends
9. RotF Studio Series (packaged with Grindor)
10. Bumblebee Movie
11. Device Label

Also kicking around in the Conjunx's collection is, I am sure, an Encore Ravage at least.

[Bogatan]

Nov 4, 2024 7:41:22 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Week G: How many Ravage toys do you own now?

1. Microman (Ravage coloured version)
   
2. Not sure if I own an original G1, but probably
   
3. BW Shadow PantherI think (if we are including him)
4. BW Metals
5. BW Tripredacus Agent
6. WST
7. Energon (probably incomplete from a car boot sale)
   
8. At least one reissue from somewhere
9. Universe (Honestly might be my favourite)
   
10. Masterpiece (Not a fan)
    
11. Seige (Not a fan)
    
12. Kingdom/Selects/Whatever Metals Ravage and G1 set
13. Movie Legend
14. Movie Deluxe
15. Botcon 2016
    

[Philip Ayres]

Week H: How many Mirage toys do you own now?

[Fortmax2020]

I can't tell how many I have or might be.
The ability to turn invisible has he.

[Jim]

Nov 11, 2024 0:01:52 GMT Philip Ayres said:

Week H: How many Mirage toys do you own now?

1. First I got Classics, a work of art,
2. then Robot Masters, named Rijie but he looks the part.
3. The Siege version I find is sadly underrated
4. and Earthrise flawed despite being anticipated.
5. The Siege Holo version I bought only for Aragon
6. and last but not least it's Legacy Toxitron!

[Benn]

1. The Transformers
2. Robotmasters
3. Alternators
4. Universe (loose)
5. Universe (MOSC)
6. Classics
7. Robot Heroes
8. MW Botcon
9. Henkei! Henkei!
10. Generations 2009 Vol.1
11. Kre-O
12. Combiner Wars
13. Siege
14. Siege Fan-Vote
15. Siege Decepticon
16. Kingdom
17. Toxitron
18. RID Mirage

Still waiting on that red Diaclone variant, Hasbro!

Having said that, if they made a Mirage that was more Sunbow oriented in both modes (why is it so hard to make a decent open wheel Mirage? Drag Strip's Tyrell looks fine!) Then I'd probably rebuy all the 'invisble', Toxitron and Decepticon variants all over again...