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Post by blueshift on Sept 11, 2016 13:27:14 GMT
I look forward to it later. There was an attempt to broadcast a live piece from the Globe this afternoon but the transmission cut out. Hopefully just a teething problem! -Ralph There was no internet in shakespeare times, maybe it was his vengeful ghost?? |
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 19:01:34 GMT
The modern references added in are getting on my tits.
Let's see how the second half goes.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 11, 2016 19:09:42 GMT
I have failed to watch this live. I couldn't find a way to get it on my tellybox and I can't sit and watch a PC screen for two hours. I will download it off iplayer in the week.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 19:55:35 GMT
It...has some problems.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 20:00:17 GMT
This sucks balls in so many ways.
-Ralph
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Post by legios on Sept 11, 2016 20:13:53 GMT
Oh dear. I'm not going to like this when I catch up with it on iPlayer am I?
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 11, 2016 20:39:44 GMT
While this particular production of AMND was not my cup of tea (though the ending was well done and I suspect it would have agreed much more with me if I was there in person) I do appreciate the free to view live stream and hope it is done again. Cinema broadcasts are great but the cost can be a barrier and many fleapits don't show them. Efforts like this make this kind of thing more accessable which is a A Good Thing. You can't beat being shown something live.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 11, 2016 20:44:48 GMT
To be honest that particular play is my least favourite of Shakespeare's work. I've seen it a few times but never got on with it. I agree about the live thing though. Whenever I have been to the cinema for live link ups, it's the fact it's live that's the draw.
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Post by legios on Sept 12, 2016 11:52:10 GMT
Indeed. I'd have watched it live if I had remembered, and also hadn't been on the phone to family. I do like the idea of doing live streams - given the catastrophically rising costs of theatrical productions anything that brings the medium to a wider audience and lets people see that it isn't just a "rich people" thing has to be a good thing.
That said, the particular play was for a long time one of my least favourite - partly because we did it at school and it was interminable. There didn't seem to be anything to discuss about it other than the "It is the best thing you will ever read, because it is Shakespeare and no-one can ever write anything as good as shakespeare ever again because he is the best writer that ever lived or will live" indoctrination against which I was rebelling.
I still don't rate all of it - but now that I've been able to go back to it and read it myself as an adult I've seen all the bits of it which are actually clever that were never mentioned I have warmed to it somewhat.
Karl
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 12, 2016 12:19:41 GMT
It depends on the production. I liked the recent RSC version which I saw in person twice with two different set of amateurs playing the Rude Mechanicals. The previous Globe version damn near had me pissing myself laughing it was so good.
It all depends on how we respond to the production. I've only seen one version of King Lear and thought it was poo but when I read about the play it sounds great so maybe another version of it might work for me.
-Ralph
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Sept 12, 2016 12:44:05 GMT
That was my experience with Lear too.
And Karl's school experience of MSND was similar to mine. Saw a live version recently and it was refreshing.
- D. Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Sept 12, 2016 20:30:19 GMT
Ooh, I saw David Warner do Lear at Chichester a few years ago, that rocked. I appreciate the humour in midsummer, I've just never found the actual story that enjoyable. Twelfth Night is more my kind of comedy when it comes to the bard.
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Post by The Doctor on Sept 13, 2016 11:43:30 GMT
I have yet to see a version of Twelth Night.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 5, 2016 19:01:21 GMT
'RSC Live: Cymbeline' - Even Wild Bill Shakespeare has his more obscure tales and this is one of them, arguably so little known that not even Knowledgeable Elves who live in Knowledge Town have heard of it. This is a bit of a shame as it is rather good. Admittedly, the high temperature I was running at the time may have aided the impression that a throbbing vein of madness runs through the spine of this juicy affair but it still passed muster.
Murder! Betrayal! Lust! More Murder! War! A Big Tree With Simple Folk Hiding Underneath It For No Readily Explainable Reason!
I can even let go the endless finale where characters explained the plot to each other with such length that the sun set at least three times outside because it had very funny tasteless gags about beheading Evil Men.
Forsooth!
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 14, 2016 13:28:02 GMT
1. No Man's Land (New Theatre Cardiff - Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen)
2. The Entertainer (Garrick - Kenneth Branagh)
3. Don Quixote (RSC)
4. Richard III (Almeida Live - Ralph Fiennes)
5. Romeo and Juliet (Garrick)
6. Nell Gwynn (Gemma Arterton)
7. The Merchant of Venice (Globe - Jonathan Pryce)
8. Red Velvet (Garrick)
9. Doctor Faustus (RSC)
10. The Tempest (Globe)
11. The Master Builder (Ralph Fiennes)
12. Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds
13. A Midsummer Night's Dream (RSC on tour to New Theatre Cardiff)
14. The Winter's Tale (Globe)
15. Hamlet (RSC Live)
16. Pericles (Globe)
17. An Inspector Calls (New Theatre Cardiff)
18. Cymbeline (RSC)
19. Rehearsal for Murder (New Theatre Cardiff)
Martin
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 14, 2016 21:12:20 GMT
I saw the RSC Live version of King Lear. Thought I would give the play another chance after disliking my previous encounter with it. Sorry, it's still rubbish! Utter crap! Hard to believe it's Our Bill. It's reputation as a Great Work utterly baffles me! It's the only Bill work I have encountered that feels so badly written. If the mighty RSC can't make it good then it must be bad!
*dies off-stage for no reason*
-Ralph
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Post by Grand Moff Muffin on Oct 15, 2016 9:42:02 GMT
I find Lear hard to watch. I saw it with my family in Stratford, with Ian McKellen and Sylvester McCoy (as the fool) and some scenes were very powerful. But I can't say I enjoyed it, or ever will.
Martin
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 15, 2016 10:26:36 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 15, 2016 11:54:26 GMT
I find Lear hard to watch. I saw it with my family in Stratford, with Ian McKellen and Sylvester McCoy (as the fool) and some scenes were very powerful. But I can't say I enjoyed it, or ever will. Martin The thing is: I want to like it. When I read about it the play sounds amazing...but ugh. Still at least the RSC version had David Troughton in it and if course had their usual sheen of quality but I just don't think it's very well written. Why does the major character of the Fool just randomly vanish, for instance? -Ralph |
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 25, 2016 11:05:40 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 5, 2017 17:56:25 GMT
Red hazed on the New Oxford Modern Critical Condition in a sale. Nice chunky HC and it has some material I don't have in my RSC paperback. Also a play I have never heard of that it is now claimed Bill had a hand in so I was curious.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 5, 2017 21:59:45 GMT
There are some good essays I've been browsing through and interesting looking introductory stuff around each piece. Glad I picked it up. Well worth £25.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 8, 2017 17:41:04 GMT
From this excellent tome I have learned that frequent contemporary collaborator John Fletcher wrote a sequel to The Taming of the Shrew!
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Feb 15, 2017 19:04:12 GMT
RSC Live: The Tempest was fine but I think it was probably better of an experience to see in person.
Impulse bought a dictionary of pronunciation of original Shakespeare words. It was so shiny and nice looking. Buggered if I know how to use it though it does link up with a web site.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 11, 2017 13:46:00 GMT
I recently saw a broadcast of NT Live's Twelth Night, which I was looking forward to as that is one of the plays I don't know. First one I've sat through thinking it was utter crap from beginning to end! Even with King Lear (which I struggle with) there are still individual bits that I can appreciate. Hmmmm.
I am unsure if it was the production though. In some ways it seemed progressive with swapping round some genders for parts of it, in others it reeked of the type of horrendous gay stereotyping (one performance and one scene production in particular) that I really thought we had grown beyond long ago. It's 2017. Do we still need "I'm freeeee!" type gurning?
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Jan 14, 2022 19:40:17 GMT
I already have two versions of Bill's Complete Works but it turns out I need the Arden Third Version too. They got me when I saw it has all three versions of Hamlet. Bastards.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 25, 2023 9:05:13 GMT
The RSC are touring Julius Ceasar so we are booked for one of the Manchester dates in June. Very excited. The RSC are the gold standard for live theatre, in my opinion.
They also sell very good tat.
-Ralph
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 25, 2023 9:50:37 GMT
I already have two versions of Bill's Complete Works but it turns out I need the Arden Third Version too. They got me when I saw it has all three versions of Hamlet. Bastards. -Ralph I now have four different Complete Works. It's not enough. -Ralph |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Apr 25, 2023 11:26:18 GMT
Did the Dugdale Society do one?
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Post by The Doctor on Apr 25, 2023 11:43:59 GMT
No they did not!
-Ralph
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