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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 20, 2017 19:38:33 GMT
I think the thing I'm struggling with is how Arcee, a similar product with similar distribution, was initially £20 cheaper than that. And still is £10 cheaper.
ToyJedi on eBay in the UK wan £60 for it.
So I'm guessing there's a reason but would like to know what it is!
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 20, 2017 19:41:17 GMT
Phil's right. This is totally different to Slugslinger. Kapow aren't going to stock a toy that will lose them money, and every three Slugslingers sold meant them being saddled with five others that wouldn't sell, even discounted. You'd have thought Grotusque would come the same route as Arcee, so an extra twenty quid seems like gouging. I also don't like the 'take your whining elsewhere' in the Facebook comments. Great way to treat your customers. I don't see any other retailer behaving like that.
I'd rather buy from Robot Kingdom than give Kapow anything, or wait for ID. I'd be happy to give them fifty quid because they're a great seller. It's also worth remembering this toy has been sighted in TRU's database. It's not like this is the *only* way to buy it.
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 20, 2017 19:44:44 GMT
ToyJedi on eBay in the UK wan £60 for it. That's Kapow. |
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 20, 2017 19:46:03 GMT
Anyone got any popcorn for when Ralph sees this price?
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 20, 2017 19:52:46 GMT
Phil alerted me by text. Indefensible price.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 20, 2017 19:53:52 GMT
*puts popcorn away*
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Post by Jim on Oct 20, 2017 20:36:47 GMT
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Post by browny87 on Oct 20, 2017 20:37:10 GMT
I was gonna buy one as I'm desperate for this figure but I was umming and ahhing at £35-40 quid no way I'm payin 55
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 20, 2017 22:17:41 GMT
There does seem to be some difference between this and Arcee. Arcee was relatively easy to get hold of in the US, it was announced well in advance and there have been multiple opportunities to buy it. Grotusque, got announced and immediately put on sale and lasted all of 3 hours.
If Kapow had to pay full retail or above to stock it then I can see how this is the price they reached, but I'll take my chances on it having to get another run at some point. I cant imagine this small run can justify the level of remoulding that went in to it.
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 20, 2017 22:30:18 GMT
That's a very good point. Whole new upper body; it will at least make TRU. As Phil pointed out, this figure has more remoulding than anything in the boxed sets.
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Post by browny87 on Oct 20, 2017 22:35:17 GMT
yeah I think ill hang fire a bit as well, least I wont be the only one!
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Post by Baron B of Triple B on Oct 20, 2017 22:53:52 GMT
Slugslinger is now listed on the Smyths website as well with availability date to be confirmed. They've been good with the last few like that so gives us hope that'll show up as retail.
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Post by browny87 on Oct 20, 2017 23:04:14 GMT
yeah and 17.99 is a much more suitable price
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Post by Philip Ayres on Oct 21, 2017 5:52:52 GMT
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2017 9:13:22 GMT
I am unsurprised.
-Ralph
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Post by Pinwig on Oct 21, 2017 9:18:44 GMT
Some people have more money than sense.
<goes back to unboxing Terminus Giganticus>
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2017 9:24:26 GMT
It's supply and demand. If retailers see they can charge £X for a product and it still sells at that price they'll keep doing it. The only way to change that is to vote with the wallet.
Of course is someone has the spare cash and chooses to spend it they can buy what they like.
I look forward to more £55-60 deluxe sale prices.
-Ralph
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 21, 2017 15:20:44 GMT
£55?!?! Bloody nora!
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Post by Jim on Oct 21, 2017 20:54:03 GMT
£55 does sound high, but if I look back at exclusives I have bought over the years, I paid $100 for United Stepper in 2011, and he isn't nearly so retooled. I don't think I would hesitate so much if Hasbro were clearer about the distribution - if Grotusque were absolutely some kind of limited-run club exclusive then this would not be such a bad price. But there are these hints that he and Arcee will be at general retail, maybe as standard deluxes with fewer paint apps, and it makes me think I might feel foolish if in a few weeks I can walk into TRU and pick them up for €25 each or so.
Not that snazzy packaging, additional titan masters and better paint apps don't count for something!
I hope the demand for these is sending a message to Hasbro, anyway.
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Post by The Doctor on Oct 21, 2017 21:52:04 GMT
I think the message being sent to Hasbro is that the market will pay £55-60 for a deluxe (and additional Titanmaster).
-Ralph
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Post by Bogatan on Oct 21, 2017 22:08:46 GMT
Only if people believe there may only ever be Botcon level production numbers made (and only directly available within North America) and dont want to miss out.
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Post by Shockprowl on Oct 21, 2017 22:23:34 GMT
Well, it's certainly a crazy world us collectors live in.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 21, 2017 22:31:40 GMT
I think the message being sent to Hasbro is that the market will pay £55-60 for a deluxe (and additional Titanmaster). -Ralph Certainly it's the message dealers will take. |
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Post by drmick on Oct 21, 2017 23:21:21 GMT
Hasbro need to announce whether or not they are doing a collectors club, and soon, Otherwise the current trend will be having to pay £55 for a Titan Master redecoed as your favourite Micromaster.
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Post by Benn on Oct 22, 2017 8:25:12 GMT
I Bogatan is right here. People are willing to pay £55+ for a percieved exclusive. Hasbro could be in a potentially tricky place now, as those that have paid that amount are going to be pretty miffed if he does turn up in TrU...
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Post by Dezzeh on Oct 22, 2017 13:33:00 GMT
No one in their right mind will pay that price for a mass release product.
If it is an exclusive, as this was perceived to be, then it’s not entirely unreasonable.
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Post by Fortmax2020 on Oct 22, 2017 19:06:54 GMT
I Bogatan is right here. People are willing to pay £55+ for a percieved exclusive. Hasbro could be in a potentially tricky place now, as those that have paid that amount are going to be pretty miffed if he does turn up in TrU... No sympathy for those who have. Their choice to pay. |
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Post by Toph on Nov 8, 2017 12:53:28 GMT
You know I've realized something. I've messed around with my TR figures way more than I ever have with my CW.
I think its more variety. Even if you take out the fact that every CW deluxe has ten repaints, they almost all have basically the same transformation.
With TR, even the ones that are based on the same engineering (scourge/highbrow/windblade, and triggerhappy/misfire/slugslinger) still manage to have significant differences in their transformation.
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Post by browny87 on Nov 8, 2017 14:31:50 GMT
agreed jetty, ive loved my TR figures and I just am more inclined to prat around with them wheres with the CW ones I just combined them and plonked them on a shelf
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Post by Jim on Nov 9, 2017 12:53:10 GMT
Same here! TR has had great fiddle factor.
Good transformations - clever without being over-complicated (Triggerhappy is a joy, as is Topspin), and relatively quick. On top of that, cockpits with little figures that can use them really adds something. It's been a clear big attraction to my daughter.
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