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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 2:21:58 GMT
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Post by Toph on Jun 20, 2015 3:47:43 GMT
Who cares about a stupid geewun van! I want more damned monkey!!!!!! wooooOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Post by Toph on Jun 20, 2015 4:05:42 GMT
MEGATRON!!! MEGATRON!!! MEGATRON!!! MEGATRON!!!
MOAR BEASTS! I NEED MOAR BEASTS!!!
MOAR!!!!
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Post by Toph on Jun 20, 2015 4:06:37 GMT
SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
Show us his bot mode!!!!
Show me the monkey! Show me the monkey!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2015 4:10:28 GMT
Be funny if MP BW Megs comes out before MP G1 Megs Version 2!
In fact, I wonder if they could get the Axalon crew done before the Ark crew.
Amazon Exclusive accessory for BW Megs: Giant mangled g1 Optimus head. Yesssss...
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Post by Toph on Jun 20, 2015 5:31:17 GMT
It's fitting if bW Megs makes it out first. He IS the greatest villain in the franchise.
Also, a rex is easier to sell than a gun.
I do hope that they save the golden disks for Dinobot.
And Rattrap BETTER friggin' come with Waspinator parts.
I wonder how they'd compensate Cheetor and Tigatron being completely different, without making two separate molds? I mean cheetor's a cheetah, and tigatron's a tiger. They look and are build very different, and Tigatron was at least a head taller. Would they just bite the size difference and focus on heavy remolding?
And I wish I knew how big Primal is. He really shouldn't be larger than the voyager sized autobot cars, if they want to do convincing size accuracy. That would give Dinobot, Rhinox, and Megatron the advantage of the larger Ironhide scale.
Though I do feel we'll get Lioconvoy before we get a full seasonal lineup of maximals or predacons.
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 20, 2015 6:48:58 GMT
And I was worried that the 20th anniversary of Beast Wars would slip by without fanfare... the IDW comics have introduced a planet that is based around them, which practically guarantees entries into the Generations line, Takara are redoing Blackarachnia, Lio Convoy is a club exclusive, and now this! The icing on the cake!
Curious if they continue. And if they do MP BW Megatron, which version would they do? Considering his Transmetal form is generally considered to be the best.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 20, 2015 8:56:07 GMT
*hyperventilates*
OW.
*clutches his bruised ribs*
Okay. This... This I was not expecting. But it is, indeed, just Prime. My only disappointment around this is that we *still* don't have an updated Masterpiece Megatron. But it's only a very small disappointment, because MP Primal - oh by all the guiding hands, fuck yes yes yes.
Unless of course the robot mode sucks because it's accurate to the Beast Wars II movie, and not the Mainframe animation model or something. But from the look of that gorilla mode, I'm doubting that. Of course, my love for the original Ultra Primal knows no bounds - it's a pretty awesome toy. As I'm sure I've mentioned it before, it was my first Transformer after a few years out, back in '98, and I was quite impressed with the detailing, gimmicks, and the poseability of the damned thing. The Masterpiece is going to have to be something special, and just as stable and poseable. This one's going to be judged to the highest of high standards. By me, anyway. And isn't that what matters?
And it's a good question, though - will we see Lio Convoy before a MP BW Megatron? Probably, yes, unfortunately, given that Takara seem to have an aversion to putting out too many "bad guy" Masterpieces. But I really hope they do. And when they do, I really hope it'll be Transmetal Megatron, because that's easily the best of his animation models. Although if they do do his T-Rex form, I do hope that the head hand is suitably sculpted and animateable. And whichever form they go with, he'd better come with a rubber ducky...
Damn. This is something to wake up to.
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Post by Dezzeh on Jun 20, 2015 9:18:11 GMT
Oh Takara, I love you
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 20, 2015 9:29:08 GMT
While this is of course good news, I am because I'm me, going to grumble. If next year is the “year of Masterpiece Beast Wars” - does this mean a lack of G1 figures? they're coming out slower than slow as it is. 3P re going to clean up, but I'd rather be buying Takara.
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Post by Andy Turnbull on Jun 20, 2015 10:09:51 GMT
I believe the correct response is...
FUCK YEAH!
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Post by legios on Jun 20, 2015 10:24:05 GMT
This is further proof, if we needed any, that everything - including the Transformers Masterpiece line - is better with Munkys!
I never thought they would do this at all. To see that it is coming to pass us glorious news. (I think this is basically my equivalent of everyone else's "Ironhide Moment".).
Don't give me any of this silhouette nonsense after this Tomy, I want to see the...er, both his modes are basically humanoid...Other Humanoid mode properly forthwith!
Karl
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Post by legios on Jun 20, 2015 10:26:19 GMT
And Rattrap BETTER friggin' come with Waspinator parts. Bzzzzz bzzzzz. Why people ztill hatez Wazp-inator. Wazp-inator get cool new toy and still Wazp-inator cannot catch break. |
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Post by Llama God on Jun 20, 2015 14:51:40 GMT
I never thought they would do this at all. To see that it is coming to pass us glorious news. (I think this is basically my equivalent of everyone else's "Ironhide Moment".). Oh, no, much as I'm liking the look of Ratchet-to-be, it's Primal that's made my weekend. Munky solidarity, brother! |
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 20, 2015 15:05:55 GMT
I will watch this one with interest because, personally, I struggle to see how they could do better than the original Ultra Optimus Primal.
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Post by Philip Ayres on Jun 20, 2015 15:09:49 GMT
Though I do feel we'll get Lioconvoy before we get a full seasonal lineup of maximals or predacons. Seeing as Masterpece is a Japanese Line and Lioconvoy is a Japanese Leasder that's somewhat inevitable! |
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Post by The Doctor on Jun 20, 2015 20:59:21 GMT
I will watch this one with interest because, personally, I struggle to see how they could do better than the original Ultra Optimus Primal. I'm with you. -Ralph |
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Post by Llama God on Jun 20, 2015 22:18:29 GMT
I will watch this one with interest because, personally, I struggle to see how they could do better than the original Ultra Optimus Primal. I'm with you. -Ralph I'm with you too! *walks in, completely disrupting the briefing and destroying any veneer of professionality about the proceedings* |
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 21, 2015 6:20:51 GMT
I'd notice that you were troubled and ask you about it, but I suspect you'd just tell me to ask you again sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 9:54:35 GMT
I do hope Masterpiece Optimus Primal features a soft tummy in gorilla mode that, when squeezed, makes him talk.
"Well that's just prime."
"I wouldn't send anyone to do something I wasn't willing to do myself."
"Shut up, Rattrap."
"Rhinox, stop making eye contact with me while I'm eating this banana."
-- Graham
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Post by Llama God on Jun 22, 2015 10:11:05 GMT
And all of a sudden I'm sad knowing that he'll sport none of those features. :-P
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 18:53:14 GMT
Well you never know..!
-- Graham
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Post by Pinwig on Jun 22, 2015 20:28:06 GMT
3P mod of the year right there. Can Shapeways do fur?
No? Oh.
He does look a bit smoooooth to me, but any kind of actual fur would be a mistake I think. He needs sculpting more like the original.
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Post by Kingoji on Jun 23, 2015 10:29:10 GMT
Well, MP has always gone for animation-model accuracy. He did look that smooth in season one, after all.
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Post by Llama God on Jun 23, 2015 10:32:25 GMT
Aye, that's true. They'll save the furry version for a special, Beast Machines-themed repaint (from the first episode, of course, where they all sported re-worked BW season one models). Which will immediately annoy me since I will already own the original version of MP Primal.
I'd say I should therefore learn from my mistakes, but I suspect that the reality is that they'll do a Blazing Convoy repaint before anything else...
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Post by Llama God on Dec 21, 2015 8:35:10 GMT
TFW2005 has renders of MP Primal: news.tfw2005.com/2015/12/21/masterpiece-optimus-primal-render-307029 To which I must say: Renders? RENDERS?!? This is, I think, even worse than a fucking silhouette! Why? Because a silhouette at least suggests that they're hiding something they've built. They've not even built a prototype of Primal yet! It's due out next year - there should be a prototype by now! But I guess they're too busy with all the other G1 Masterpieces... Which is a shame, because that render has me a LOT less excited than the original sneak preview of MP Primal. As has already been asked in this thread: What is this actually going to offer that's going to make it better than the original Ultra Optimus Primal? Cartoon accuracy? Well if you wanted that, there's one of the many re-issues, or the Robot Masters versions. And they're all very well detailed, gimmick-laden and poseable. If that's all the MP version is offering, well... we've already got it. And given that from recent trends TakTom seem to be equating "Masterpiece" with "big(ish) and expensive" I don't have an actual lot of hope that this'll be any good. Seasons greetings, everybody! Ho ho ho! ;-) |
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Post by dyrl on Dec 21, 2015 9:01:56 GMT
That render, in monkey mode, looks no better than the original toy. Not impressive .
Edit:
We should remember that Hasbro leader class ROTF movie Starscream was brought over by Takara into the MP line.
This Optimus Primal looks like the same principle , a nice big toy suddenly pushed as a "Masterpiece"
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Post by Pinwig on Dec 21, 2015 9:37:13 GMT
I dunno. I think the render makes it look more simple than the final thing will be. It's untextured for a start and has no indication of the finish the plastic will have. The problem, as everyone says, is that the original toy was pretty good anyway and much closer to the cartoon model than the original G1 figures were to theirs. So all it can be is a spruced up version of the original. There's less room to manoeuvre or improve.
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Post by Marc Graham on Dec 21, 2015 13:52:45 GMT
The original Beast Wars Primal toy was absurdly good, great stable robot mode, good beast mode, hidden bits in each arm, shoulder mounted rockets that popped up - it was just awesome, almost too good to improve on.
I'm not judging too much from a render, its the little extras that will make the difference to me in this toy.
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Post by Stomski on Dec 21, 2015 14:58:34 GMT
You all say that, but for this to be properly part of the new MP philosophy, it should be in scale with MP10. So we're getting all that in a figure an inch tall. Pretty impressive engineering IMO.
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